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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Praram

And let's not forget that she has only now gotten to know that AS is NDP. Remember how violently AS rejected the idea that Guneet and her online personality were the same? For her, AS is still the one who tried everything to get her out of the home ( as she told him even during the dinner date). AS luckily had a Hakim who counseled him when he repeatedly lashed out. Unfortuantely, Nia was the person Guneet lashed out to.

Yes that's what is wrong...Guneet doesn't have a friend

Whom can she talk to.. vent out too and clearly Nia can't be the person for Guneet so Guneet needs a great friend asap

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Posted: 5 years ago
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I liked the scene at Shukla house today, what a pleasant surprise. The good thing she never questioned Guneet as to what happened as its a personal matter and thankfully one person left who did not character assassinated her. The job was very nicely done by Niya, ( after doing that goes on and gives ultimatum leave the house in two days)Amber ( he did not slap Guneet for being BM, he took it out by informing her to be husband that she is two timing) and Anurag ( Mr Perfect, but once the girl said no, humiliate her) 👏


As for the showdown both Niya and Guneet said things that should not have been said. In Guneets case, I know where it was coming from. In Niyas case, I would just say she crossed all lines when she said Guneet is a two timer and characterless women🤢🤢. NOTHING gives her the right to say that , absolutely disgusting!! It is right for her to get hurt, that her dad was slapped. She could have asked Guneet what happened?

It was a treat to watch ST, laying bare every emotion. The best scene today was when she tells off Niya not to mess with her without resorting to any name calling. She can give a lesson in Dignity, grace and Class :))

Precap: Got my hopes up to get some Amber-Guneet scenes:)

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: AreYaar

My thoughts on the fight:


1) To defend my parents (even if a slap is involved), I wouldn't slander someone's character like Nia did with Guneet....it's quite disturbing that as a female, she doesn't feel a moment's pause in denigrating the character of a woman who shared all her vulnerabilities with her. Patriarchy rules.


2) Shweta was just OUTSTANDING in this scene....those fiery, teary eyes....I was reminded of some classic Prerna glaring😆....the way Guneet's emotions were oscillating all over the place in this scene....the heartbreak, the anger, the shock when she learns that Nia also knew the truth, the feeling of betrayal when even Nia doesn't give her any understanding as a friend....every shade was outstandingly portrayed by Shweta.....


Special mention for two bits....a)When she tells Nia to get out....and b) When she tells Nia that she let her badtameezi go once but she won't let it go a second time.....I loved that she reminded Nia who's the elder here that Nia ofcourse seems to have no cognizance of because of having treated her own dad like a kid half her life.


3) It was an ugly fight.....clearly both of them were hurt and lashing out to hurt the other. But Nia's blind defense of her father has gotten beyond tiresome and I have no sympathy for it anymore. She is consumed by her father's so called emotional debilitation that she couldn't even see another woman's pain.....Yes, Guneet shouldn't have said anything about how Amber treated his late wife or his daughter but frankly what she said was the truth.....he's a drama queen of the highest order who emotionally blackmails the people in his life. Ofcourse Nia as the daughter can't handle or bear this truth, so she reacted.....but to react by calling Guneet a two timer who can't handle relationships was WAY over the line.


Amber consumes the drama oxygen of every situation so much, that people forget everything else. This is a man who put Guneet through so much when she first came into his life as the tenant....while she was always the cheerful one trying to look for positives in so many setbacks.....and now it's all been forgotten to paint him as the victim.


The saddest part of the scene was the hurt in Guneet when she said to Nia, "Tum toh meri dost thi na".....once again, Guneet made the mistake of thinking anyone would stick up for her....she expected Nia to give her some understanding as a friend....but from the get go, Nia was only obsessed with advocating for her father.....and that was the moment Guneet realized that Nia the daughter is all there is....she thought she had a friend in Nia, but there never really was.....Nia proved it with the way she slandered Guneet.


However the story moves ahead in the coming days....it's been quite disappointing to see the casual way in which Guneet is slandered over and over again by random characters in this show, simply for trying to figure out her path to love in life. People like Amber make a 1000 more mistakes than her but somehow HE ends up being the "victim" with his daughter trying to paint him as a saint😕😆


This should have been an issue between two consenting adults (Amber and Guneet)....woh aapas mein lade ya marein, it's their business.....Nia has to stop infantilizing either of them.....but sadly this is all they seem to be fixated on in this story currently.


Word to the entire post!! Mera bhi same to same🤣 And yaar lovely Gif of Randeep and Guneet in the other post!! I miss him all over again🥺 These two were adorable to watch:))


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Posted: 5 years ago
#14

Originally posted by: atikna

Nia is getting lots of aashiq... Really but please tell me did anyone get this ...Are Swara and Kabir dating ..? Did he say yes to her proposal ? . What was the song name in the scene what movie ..what album


Nia ki company ka kya hua

Woh kama kaise rahi hai ? Kaam karte dikhti kyun nahi Nia and Kajal ?


I think for one ..Amber needs to lay down a law that Nia needs to be quiet about his and Guneet's issue ..he has to stress this point to her that whatever happened should be between him and Guneet and Nia taking sides is making situation worse..and if any kind of relationship is possible between Guneet and Amber then Nia needs to stay out of it ..I mean she shouldn't be commenting/ reacting on whatever fight happens between them .

This honest talks needs to happen between Amber and Nia before Amber can take steps to redeem himself in front of Guneet or else this situation will occur again and again


I don’t know what happened to Niyas company but the only scene I saw of hers, I think she has rejoined Wenet.

As far as Amber and Niya is concerned, they are blind to each others faults, but hope Amber draws a line. Too much hope 😆



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Posted: 5 years ago
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Most of the things are already discussed now.

But i feel randeep should hve been thr atleast for guneet. Someone who dont judge hr n be thr for her unconditionally. Amber ke sath to hakim,niya aur kabir hain but guneet is so alone. Upar se pammiji ke taane kam nhi hote n all are blaming her for everything.

I am sure mostly that makers will make rishi her new sakhi someway, but i dnt feel that bond will be same.


About niya, they r messing the storyline to highest level. Suddenly she n kabir r ttoo touchy touchy n too mushy gushy.Doesnt make sense anymore.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Swatis301

Suddenly she n kabir r ttoo touchy touchy n too mushy gushy.Doesnt make sense anymore.

Aur woh bhi is pandemic mein 😆

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Posted: 5 years ago
#17

Originally posted by: atikna

I am sorry I will not not be able to highlight any parts of your quote to reply


In reply to your first point ...I will always defend my parents first ... They may be wrong of course they can be wrong but they are my parents ..my first order of business ..my duty and my responsibility is to protect them , defend them . Because they have always done the same for me .. if someone lashes out at my parents in front of me as a daughter reaction would be to defend them and protect them . My love for my parents doesn't end or lessen if they are wrong or right . Yes here I am not defending Nia but my thought process .. my parents will come first and that's why if Nia lashed out at Guneet she was wrong in saying those things to Guneet but her instinct was right ... I am not saying Nia should have crossed her limits but as a daughter I would also get angry if I heard someone had hurt my parents ...all I said and will stand by what I said that Nia's instinct to defend her dad was correct ...her words were wrong ...she crossed lines yes..but I understand her instinct her need to defend her father . You say that you won't do what she did I salute your maturity but for me my first instinct will be to defend my parents .



I think you misunderstood my first point. I didn't say I wouldn't defend my parents.....I said that to defend my parents, I wouldn't cheapen the character of another woman the way Nia did. That in itself would be a disrespect to my upbringing.....and that is why what Nia did was way over the line and can't be defended in my opinion.


Getting angry as a daughter is not the problem....but tearing down a woman's character to defend your father is wrong.

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Posted: 5 years ago
#18

Originally posted by: atikna

I think Nia didn't talk to her dad at all and just saw his face and went ahead to talk to Guneet...

Nia is a brat I agree and she needs to focus on herself and her antics before pointing it on others



But they way Kabir and Nia discussed Randeep I feel kind of hopeful that maybe they can bring him back .. wishful thinking ?

I agree nobody should be talking to Guneet about Anurag's words ...whatever happened ...that was again between Anurag and Guneet and nobody else ..although Anurag did make it all public by shouting about it all in front of guests on roka day

So yes Nia is wrong in saying those words to Guneet ..and words once spoken cannot be unsaid and I think down the line we need to see Nia giving a heartfelt apology to Guneet

I hope we see that happen ..I hope this fight is not swept under the rug and not referred to again after things get better ..but we see a scene in which both Nia apologizes and Guneet and she talk it out


It is not that no one should talk about a "personal" matter between Anurag and Guneet....the bigger issue is that they are using Anurag's attack of Guneet's character (which by the way is a LIE because Guneet TOLD him about NDP quite early on only....that she was chatting with a guy online. Anurag was the one who pretended to be an understanding partner and then did an about face to tear down Guneet when she backed out of the roka)....so on the basis of a LIE, now EVERYONE is going to call Guneet a "two-timer"?


I remember even when the Anurag incident happened, Nia barely stuck up for Guneet and was quite quick to believe that maybe Guneet indeed is a woman who can't nibhaao relationships. I was quite put off then also....as a woman herself, Nia didn't pause even one second before passing such a sweeping judgement on another woman. Nia proved herself to be quite selfish and absorbed with her own issues back then also....never really reached out to give Guneet some support in that time and mostly left her to her own devices.


Guneet's biggest crime is that she has an open heart and shares everything like an open book....most people wouldn't have the guts to honestly express how they feel even after being betrayed in relationships so many times....but she still states her truth every single time. Sadly she is then torn down for it and attacked in such a disgusting manner like Anurag did.....and then people like Nia repeat stuff like that.


Re: Randeep.....I didn't watch the Nia-Kabir scene, so I don't know....but maybe they just discussed Randeep in passing.....I don't think they will bring Randeep back now that Nia again has two guys to bounce back and forth between.

Edited by AreYaar - 5 years ago
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Posted: 5 years ago
#19

Originally posted by: atikna

Nia is getting lots of aashiq... Really but please tell me did anyone get this ...Are Swara and Kabir dating ..? Did he say yes to her proposal ? . What was the song name in the scene what movie ..what album


Nia ki company ka kya hua

Woh kama kaise rahi hai ? Kaam karte dikhti kyun nahi Nia and Kajal ?


I think for one ..Amber needs to lay down a law that Nia needs to be quiet about his and Guneet's issue ..he has to stress this point to her that whatever happened should be between him and Guneet and Nia taking sides is making situation worse..and if any kind of relationship is possible between Guneet and Amber then Nia needs to stay out of it ..I mean she shouldn't be commenting/ reacting on whatever fight happens between them .

This honest talks needs to happen between Amber and Nia before Amber can take steps to redeem himself in front of Guneet or else this situation will occur again and again


Sadly, I don't think Amber is capable of doing this. If he had that much maturity, these relationships wouldn't be the mess they are. He has no capability of conducting a relationship as a mature individual right now....he's spent the last many years letting Nia run his life....he doesn't know how to extract himself from that and let a new relationship stand up on its own feet.


Then Nia herself is very immature....usually in such stories, atleast one of the two people has some level of maturity even if the other is insecure and confused about a new person entering their lives....but in this case, both father-daughter are similarly immature and brattish - Guneet is right about that. So that is why it is very hard to conduct a relationship in such circumstances cuz neither of them seem to realize that Amber-Guneet need to talk on their own terms as adults without Nia sticking her nose in everything so immaturely. If Nia atleast had some wisdom and maturity, maybe her interfering wouldn't be so bad.....but she makes everything worse with her blind defending of her father.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: spidie

I liked the scene at Shukla house today, what a pleasant surprise. The good thing she never questioned Guneet as to what happened as its a personal matter and thankfully one person left who did not character assassinated her. The job was very nicely done by Niya, ( after doing that goes on and gives ultimatum leave the house in two days)Amber ( he did not slap Guneet for being BM, he took it out by informing her to be husband that she is two timing) and Anurag ( Mr Perfect, but once the girl said no, humiliate her) 👏


As for the showdown both Niya and Guneet said things that should not have been said. In Guneets case, I know where it was coming from. In Niyas case, I would just say she crossed all lines when she said Guneet is a two timer and characterless women🤢🤢. NOTHING gives her the right to say that , absolutely disgusting!! It is right for her to get hurt, that her dad was slapped. She could have asked Guneet what happened?

It was a treat to watch ST, laying bare every emotion. The best scene today was when she tells off Niya not to mess with her without resorting to any name calling. She can give a lesson in Dignity, grace and Class :))

Precap: Got my hopes up to get some Amber-Guneet scenes:)


Oh thanks for reminding me....I'd forgotten that this "two-timer" label was first started by Amber the Great only🤔.....in his own insecurities and jealousy, he was quick to try to paint Guneet as a "two-timer" for agreeing to the roka with Anurag even though he himself was the one who abruptly stopped chatting with Baawra Mann when he felt he was getting too "attached"🤔.....and then Anurag himself also further tore her down when his male ego was bruised.


You know what the amazing thing is? Amber also gets a free pass because he's already HAD one partner in life....he's already had a wife and he has a kid...so that somehow gives him "legitimacy" in this society. While Guneet will forever be judged as a "loose character" because she didn't manage to get married even once in life and did the "crime" of trying to find love....her other crime was trying to support her family after her dad passed away. No one takes any of this even a little into context as they tear her down. Remarkable 👏


Amber Sharma deserves all the chances in the world because he is now in love for the second time.....poor Guneet didn't even manage to get a genuine FIRST love story while the whole world goes around calling her characterless. That is how enraging it is to hear a brat like Nia say all this crap to her and feel entitled to disrespect her to that level....Guneet was every bit justified in telling her to get out. Kitna sune koi yaar? Koi bhi raaste chalta insaan aake Guneet ko uska character certificate de jaata hai just cuz she's not married at this age so supposedly can't nibhaao rishte? The fact that THIS is what Nia chose to point out as a "flaw" in her character was wow👏


ST was just magnificent....it really is a treat to watch her as Guneet. Varun is great as Amber too....when these two get scenes to themselves is when the story lives up to its promise.


Yeah I'm intrigued about the precap too....wonder what Guneet will say to him....she didn't seem to be in the mood to fight really😆

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