24th July episode ...too much said - Page 6

Originally posted by: atikna

The show has left very little for Guneet to do...she is a fab person ...as a character she needs very little because she is nearly perfect( my opinion doesn' reflect on the actor in any way)

so maybe that's why we get more screen time for Amber and his sounding boards because all the growth has to be done by him.. he needs to be matured ...to be able to let go of his past and accept a new person in his life whole heartedly .The journey we might be treated to may be of his growth although I do think I am putting out a lot of expectations from this show ..which may lead me to be very dissapointed

The makers should also show some insecurity about love and relationships from Guneet's side to make this show a lot more balanced and that would mean that we also see Guneet spending a little time away from her mother with some else with whom she can vent and show her side of feelings and expectations

I don't really think Guneet is a perfect person....she has her flaws and insecurities too. Clearly, the fact that she is too trusting has been a flaw that led her to being swindled so badly. She also lacks a spine when it comes to her mom....she lacks the courage to fully stand up to her mom.

Also, she clearly has a temper as was shown in this fight too.....so she is also a normal human being with flaws in many ways. Sadly the story just doesn't give her much time and space to explore her thought process.....because Amber is way more messed up and most of the story just goes in fixating on his issues.

Although off late, I'm liking that there is some variation in getting to see a more sober Amber....the angst is well portrayed by Varun and a welcome change from the constantly cranky and sadu Amber.

Originally posted by: ShinyMishka

Then there's Niya's track... ugh, I'm so done with Niya and her stupid love triangles. How on earth does she get one guy to fall in love with her, let alone several? She is so wishy-washy, with Randeep, with Kabir, and now probably with this new guy. Why did they have to throw in that Niya and Kabir used to date? It puts an uncomfortable spin on their relationship. Before it was the story of two best friends, and one fell in love with the other, but the other doesn't reciprocate. It happens, it's a common trope. But now it's like Kabir is the obsessed ex who can't let go of a failed relationship. I was cringing watching Kabir reminisce about their past and Niya's resounding silence. I like Kabir. He's a sensible, mature guy (and very handsome). His major flaw is that he's stuck on Niya. I don't think Niya is good for him as a friend or girlfriend. She constantly berates him for not supporting her like he's her lapdog, even though he's not wrong in his perspective. Even now Niya claims he "betrayed" her for not encouraging her stupidity. Kabir has no obligation to ruin his own career over Niya's mistakes. Niya demands unquestionable loyalty from him, and now that we know they are exes I feel like Niya is purposely taking advantage of his feelings for her. See how she immediately jumped to Kabir liking Swara when he said something in her favor, as if Kabir can only support a woman he's in love with or is in love with him. He's right, the situation was highly coincidental, so it's natural for Swara to be suspicious. As it is, the writers will destroy any possible relationship between Kabir and Swara, because Swara is Niya's rival now or whatever. I won't be surprised if she becomes full on vamp just to make Niya look better. It's not like they can have an actual competent and professional businesswoman that will show up their FL. Not looking forward to the butchering of characters of either Kabir or Swara.

Lastly, there is the new character, Rishi. I don't have much of an opinion of him yet. It seems like his role is to be the voice of truth that forces the protagonists to confront the reality of the situation and their feelings. And also to be a business mentor. Ambar and Niya are sorely in need of both. I have no idea how they're making enough money to stay afloat. I have no doubt he will eventually be part of a messy quadrangle between Niya-Kabir-Swara and himself (god, they really should've just kept Randeep if they were going to pull this c**p), but I hope to get some good scenes with him before that.

Ok, this was a very long rant, but there was a lot to unpack there, lol.

+100😆....You've summed it up aptly....exactly why I'm so done with Nia and her endless love triangles/quadrangles too....the writers have totally made a joke out of her on that front. And I'm no Nia hater....I liked her character initially as an independent working girl...but all this wishy-washyness with an endless parade of guys has disconnected me from her.

I've stopped watching Nia's scenes with Kabir and gang for this very reason....cuz I have no more patience for that aimless storyline. Now there is this Rishi....and we all know how it's going to end up with another random love triangle for Nia.

I can only hope that Amber-Guneet's story still moves with some sense cuz they are the last thing holding me to this show.

I remember watching this show early on, when Guneet was new tenant and things were awkward/funny and then being serious. Only a few episodes but now I watched the last 5 epis and it's pretty interesting! I read this entire thread and I'm loving the characters but I really feel that the writers need to work on the situations and dialogues, too OTT at times.

This feels so much like watching BBC's Merlin, everyone loves the actors who doing an amazing job but the writing and show just ruins it everytime! I don't want that happening here.

Guneet is such an amazing woman. Can they just stop showing women tearing each other down instead of building strong relationships and friendships? I swear none of my female friends are jealous of me and would literally do anything for me and I guess that's how friends are, could we have it on screen please!!!😭😭😭

I really loved the dynamics that Guneet and Nia had, this is too messed up. :(

Originally posted by: atikna

Hi...it seems you also went on a replying spree after some time ...

I was not defending Nia or her words I am just pointing out that her instinct to defend her dad was natural... The words which poured out of her were wrong and misdirected but the instinct to protect and defend her dad was not wrong

So in defence of her dad she pretty much crossed an unmarked line of decency which made the fight ugly .

But like I said her instinct was not wrong

Say if two kids have a fight, the first thing a parent does is ask, what happened, who started the fight and most importantly whose FAULT was it? They would not ( its just my assumption) just go on a verbal volley with the other kid without knowing the facts. Also, a parent knows their kid very well ( in this case Nia knows her dad inside out) and would have a fair idea of who might be at fault. In this case Nia crossed a line and just saying maybe she doesnt know what happened is a very flawed arguement. She had so many days and still she did not ask her dad what happened? Did she just assume Guneet was at fault? And is still carrying the notion of her being a home breaker? These are some serious allegations here, the least she could have done is found out what happened.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

@bold: Mera bhi same to same😛

Arrey Yaar , thanks! 😆

As you pointed out, Nia trying to threaten Guneet in this meeting again compounds the issue....it could have been forgiven in the heat of the moment the first time....but the fact that Nia keeps behaving like this (in my dictionary, this is how brats talk) is problematic. Simply being protective of your dad doesn't give you the right to start threatening people left right and center. Nia needs to grow up from this mindset.

Waise Amber's hapless expressions in this exchange seem to indicate that either he doesn't know what was spoken between Nia-Guneet in that scene, or he does and he's just too scared to take a stand either way. He obviously seems to know that Nia kicked Guneet out of the house.....unless Guneet-Nia neglected to mention that to him. 🤔

I think that too, Amber doesn’t know what Nia said that day, he seemed a bit shocked when Guneet said us din ki galti repeat karna bhi mat and Nias guilty epxression was icing on the cake

As far as the Indian shows go , I have really no expectations there, so it really helps😆 As long as they not completely butcher Amber- Guneet, I can watch it for the actors😊

Originally posted by: spidie

Say if two kids have a fight, the first thing a parent does is ask, what happened, who started the fight and most importantly whose FAULT was it? They would not ( its just my assumption) just go on a verbal volley with the other kid without knowing the facts. Also, a parent knows their kid very well ( in this case Nia knows her dad inside out) and would have a fair idea of who might be at fault. In this case Nia crossed a line and just saying maybe she doesnt know what happened is a very flawed arguement. She had so many days and still she did not ask her dad what happened? Did she just assume Guneet was at fault? And is still carrying the notion of her being a home breaker? These are some serious allegations here, the least she could have done is found out what happened.

I am sorry but I don't agree with the comparison...Nia and Guneet are not kids ...Nia went to patch things up for her dad not to fight for a toy.. and if you think any parent would stand by and let a kid on playground slap their kid ? No they will intervene and try to protect their kid ...but that analogy is wrong na...what if I saw my father or mother being hurt by someone ...I will first try to defend them ...take them to a safe place and then try to find out the matter...Nia went to Guneet to patch things up to make Guneet understand that her father is in love with Guneet ...should she have done that no ...why because both Amber and Guneet are adults and need to sort out their own matters...Nia got angry because she heard that Guneet slapped Amber ... what she said to Guneet is not forgiveable but I think the intentions behind Nia approaching Guneet were no wrong ...

I am not taking Nia's side but I am not going to blame her for trying to help her dad ...that why she went to Guneet...she didn't go to Guneet with express wish to insult and throw her out of the house ...she went there to talk for her father

If I see my parents in some kind of difficulty I would try to help them out...so what is wrong in that thought process...what came after wards was wrong but her wish to help her dad was not wrong...and that's what I have been trying to tell from the very first post I made about this fight

Her instinct to help her dad is not wrong ...and that's all ...her instinct to defend her parent was not wrong ...she didn't go to Guneet to insult Guneet ..

I am talking not about her actions I am talking about the feelings when she went to meet Guneet ...

I have reiterated the same point in about 4-5 posts ...her instinct which is natural was to defend her father and it was not wrong...

I am sorry if I came across too strong ... Just trying to put my point across please don't get offended ..🤗

I agree. Niya went up not to blame Guneet or pick up a quarrel or even defend her dad, but to generally diffuse the situation by appealing to Guneet to ditch her anger & gv Ambar a chance to explain. It may be interference but it was natural & warranted in the situation.

But then she got to know abt the slap - again, it was instinctive for her to get angry & take up for her Dad and do some counter-blaming.

However where she went wrong was to use the same age-old sure-fire way to put down a woman opposing u - sl*t shaming her. That was not expected of a new age girl like Niya. It was below the belt, demeaning to both Guneet & herself, and un-feminist. The CVs could hv avoided this.

Originally posted by: Bana

I agree. Niya went up not to blame Guneet or pick up a quarrel or even defend her dad, but to generally diffuse the situation by appealing to Guneet to ditch her anger & gv Ambar a chance to explain. It may be interference but it was natural & warranted in the situation.

But then she got to know abt the slap - again, it was instinctive for her to get angry & take up for her Dad and do some counter-blaming.

However where she went wrong was to use the same age-old sure-fire way to put down a woman opposing u - sl*t shaming her. That was not expected of a new age girl like Niya. It was below the belt, demeaning to both Guneet & herself, and un-feminist. The CVs could hv avoided this.

Thanks a lot... I was wondering why people are not getting the point that Nia went to Guneet with positive thought

Originally posted by: atikna

I am sorry but I don't agree with the comparison...Nia and Guneet are not kids ...Nia went to patch things up for her dad not to fight for a toy.. and if you think any parent would stand by and let a kid on playground slap their kid ? No they will intervene and try to protect their kid ...but that analogy is wrong na...what if I saw my father or mother being hurt by someone ...I will first try to defend them ...take them to a safe place and then try to find out the matter...Nia went to Guneet to patch things up to make Guneet understand that her father is in love with Guneet ...should she have done that no ...why because both Amber and Guneet are adults and need to sort out their own matters...Nia got angry because she heard that Guneet slapped Amber ... what she said to Guneet is not forgiveable but I think the intentions behind Nia approaching Guneet were no wrong ...

I am not taking Nia's side but I am not going to blame her for trying to help her dad ...that why she went to Guneet...she didn't go to Guneet with express wish to insult and throw her out of the house ...she went there to talk for her father

If I see my parents in some kind of difficulty I would try to help them out...so what is wrong in that thought process...what came after wards was wrong but her wish to help her dad was not wrong...and that's what I have been trying to tell from the very first post I made about this fight

Her instinct to help her dad is not wrong ...and that's all ...her instinct to defend her parent was not wrong ...she didn't go to Guneet to insult Guneet ..

I am talking not about her actions I am talking about the feelings when she went to meet Guneet ...

I have reiterated the same point in about 4-5 posts ...her instinct which is natural was to defend her father and it was not wrong...

I am sorry if I came across too strong ... Just trying to put my point across please don't get offended ..🤗

Hey no issues, its just a discussion about a character of a show , so nothing to get offended as long as the discussion is civil:))
Well, I am not blaming her for helping her dad or her instinct to protect her dad. I have issue with how she protected her dad by maligning other womens character. I was just countering a point where it was said she did not know what happened, so if she did not know them she should have made some effort to know what happened afterwards and have some decency to apologize to Guneet. ( not for protecting her dad, but gor what she said)

I do get what you are trying to say but I agree in parts. I guess this has been over discussed now and I need to give it a rest😆So lets agree to disagree:))

Originally posted by: AreYaar

I don't really think Guneet is a perfect person....she has her flaws and insecurities too. Clearly, the fact that she is too trusting has been a flaw that led her to being swindled so badly. She also lacks a spine when it comes to her mom....she lacks the courage to fully stand up to her mom.

Also, she clearly has a temper as was shown in this fight too.....so she is also a normal human being with flaws in many ways. Sadly the story just doesn't give her much time and space to explore her thought process.....because Amber is way more messed up and most of the story just goes in fixating on his issues.

Although off late, I'm liking that there is some variation in getting to see a more sober Amber....the angst is well portrayed by Varun and a welcome change from the constantly cranky and sadu Amber.

I missed this post somehow🤷‍♀️. I also love Guneet not because she is perfect, infact quiet the opposite. She is not a typical female lead of Indian shows, she tries really very hard to be an ideal daughter and fit in but at the end she always listens to her heart and does things accordingly, without ever thinking log Kya kahenge. For me that her most endearing quality:)) She really fails to stand upto her mother most of the time, thats her biggest flaw amongst others. That also makes her relatable and human. Also she is more comfortable and unhesitant with Amber, whereas he always is fumbling or thinking twice😆

And Word about getting to see a more sober Amber, that has really helped to not give up on Amber yet:) The angst and guilt has been nicely portrayed by VB.