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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Swetha-Sai

Thank you so much for this post! ❤️

Your post made me change my perspective on money and on life.. 👍


Wow that is a great compliment. I have learned this from SSR. He never did any one of this for money but he did for excitement, that made him happy. Here is a video.


https://youtu.be/97XoRPFlGTs

And you’re welcome 😊


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Posted: 5 years ago
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Lovely post. All the beautiful posts on SSR are so heartwarming. I just wish I could be half as articulate, but alas, words fail me when it comes to my thoughts on sushant.


As Albert Einstein would say; The pursuit of knowledge is more valuable than its possession. ❤️❤️❤️




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Posted: 5 years ago
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This is such a lovely post. ❤️

I loved it and thanks for making this ❤️

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Very nice post


I would like to put one more point. Family should be the support system for everyone.


Even if friends, colleagues and classmates abondon you, family is last resort


Did Sushant family knew he had depression? If not why they did not know? Why Sushant father was not staying with his son? That would have may be prevented Sushant taking this extreme step


Sometimes what happens family and the persons views clash. Especially people coming from smaller towns their family has different life style. Parents and family do not approve of kids new life style. So they show disapproval by staying out of kids life. Even siblings are encouraged by parents to stay out in case they do not like kids new life style. There s hardly any interaction happening.


Kids also do not want parents out of their life. Because they want to live independent and free. If they stay with parents, its tough to have night out with friends at home. It tough to live in with girl friends or get girl friends home. So kids also do not want parents or siblings staying with them or visiting them often.


This is new modern indian society. Atleast in big cities this is very much happening. There is a disconnect between family and kids. When that happens both stop sharing their pain with each other. Than when you get upset you have no one to tell your mind your pain. Than you get desperate and it leads to tragedy.


I am not saying this may have happened to sushant. But this is happening to people in society. Especially in big cities there are no true friends when you want to say something. No one cares no one helps when you truly need. Not all can individually face everything bravely. Some give up.


So stay in touch with your family your parents and siblings. They may be angry with you for changing your life style. They may not approve of your new ways after coming to a big city. OR you may be born in bigg city only but your family and your life style mis matches. But remember when full world abandons you only a parent only a sibling will hold your hand always. No matter what fights what anger they have you have to just ask and they will leave everything and run to be by your side. When you fall down the gorge only your family will risk life and keep holding your hand and pull you out of the spiral of pitfall. People must realize this. All this flash all this hi fi life style etc all these friends and colleagues are not really there when you truly need them. Do not just push away your family your siblings as soon as you see success in life when you feel they are no longer needed. Never push off your school friends your childhood friends because now you are up there and they are still like before down there in ladder. Your childhood friends your family they are only ones who truly care for you finally when you are down and out. Not your new friends and colleagues who are just sucking up to you because you are a success you are a ladder for them to climb in future they are all friends for benefits usually. Today in modern society to get a true real friend is more tough to find than a needle in a godown full off haystick. Its all friendship with benefits only now.


By the way family comes from word familia - latin word which means servants, maids, parents, siblings, uncle, aunt etc

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Nice post.


Mansoor is one of my favourite characters❤️

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Nice post, I did read it all (words/reading are my best ability) I do not agree with some of your opinions, but that is because I honestly think SSR had some deeper issues than a simple case of depression, that other people were aware it's true, that maybe it was compounded by external issues that is also true, but we all do a great disservice to him if we reduce his demise to cracking because he was bullied by anyone, let alone the people that are the targets of the anger, as I also believe that there is manipulation and a blame game on, that has nothing to do with SSR and a lot to do with agendas of people who cared very little for him when alive and certainly must not have known him that well, had they known him enough, they would have known he was troubled or upset and reached out to help, those people are just vultures feeding on the dead.

However I do agree with your opinion that the investigation should go on because while a good investigator can figure out a suicide vs a murder very fast, a great investigator who is responsible and ethical would never EVER claim to know all the answers without a thorough investigation including a full post mortem including toxicology reports, all of which takes time and usually at least one MD. So I do agree that a sham was made of the initial investigation, those images should not have been out to the public for a variety of reasons, and when they are out so fast then you know there is a severe leak issue and a bigger corruption issue with some of the most incompetent investigators and the most self serving "friends" and colleagues I have ever seen.

Basically I am of a mind set that you cannot run an investigation in public nor be an emotional investigator, nor listen to thousands of people, because there would be thousands of opinions. Pushing the authorities to do one thing or another to appease the public, will not get justice for SSR if what they pursue are half truths or personal agendas, that is only going to get the vultures an unmerited reward.

In it's entirety it is a heartfelt post you wrote. I know sometimes it is hard to write down opinions and feelings in these forums, for more reasons than I can explain.

I hope you either write or seek to talk to a professional if you yourself are so sad or upset with a public issue that is yet to offer concise answers. Because if the tragedy in a public figures life, changes your personal life, when you do not have all the information, that is not a positive thing.

Thank you for sharing. Regards.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: CriticusExpert

Nice post, I did read it all (words/reading are my best ability) I do not agree with some of your opinions, but that is because I honestly think SSR had some deeper issues than a simple case of depression, that other people were aware it's true, that maybe it was compounded by external issues that is also true, but we all do a great disservice to him if we reduce his demise to cracking because he was bullied by anyone, let alone the people that are the targets of the anger, as I also believe that there is manipulation and a blame game on, that has nothing to do with SSR and a lot to do with agendas of people who cared very little for him when alive and certainly must not have known him that well, had they known him enough, they would have known he was troubled or upset and reached out to help, those people are just vultures feeding on the dead.

However I do agree with your opinion that the investigation should go on because while a good investigator can figure out a suicide vs a murder very fast, a great investigator who is responsible and ethical would never EVER claim to know all the answers without a thorough investigation including a full post mortem including toxicology reports, all of which takes time and usually at least one MD. So I do agree that a sham was made of the initial investigation, those images should not have been out to the public for a variety of reasons, and when they are out so fast then you know there is a severe leak issue and a bigger corruption issue with some of the most incompetent investigators and the most self serving "friends" and colleagues I have ever seen.

Basically I am of a mind set that you cannot run an investigation in public nor be an emotional investigator, nor listen to thousands of people, because there would be thousands of opinions. Pushing the authorities to do one thing or another to appease the public, will not get justice for SSR if what they pursue are half truths or personal agendas, that is only going to get the vultures an unmerited reward.

In it's entirety it is a heartfelt post you wrote. I know sometimes it is hard to write down opinions and feelings in these forums, for more reasons than I can explain.

I hope you either write or seek to talk to a professional if you yourself are so sad or upset with a public issue that is yet to offer concise answers. Because if the tragedy in a public figures life, changes your personal life, when you do not have all the information, that is not a positive thing.

Thank you for sharing. Regards.


Can you please elaborate? And by no means I am being rude or sarcastic. I am genuinely asking. Do you mean it with respect to mental health or other references?

Are you pointing that people were aware of his deeper issues as you have phrased?

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: TakingAStand2

Lovely post. All the beautiful posts on SSR are so heartwarming. I just wish I could be half as articulate, but alas, words fail me when it comes to my thoughts on sushant.


As Albert Einstein would say; The pursuit of knowledge is more valuable than its possession. ❤️❤️❤️





Thank You.


Agree with the bold part.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: Renee.Clare

This is such a lovely post. ❤️

I loved it and thanks for making this ❤️


Thank you so much😃

You're welcome. I learned all these valuable thoughts from SSR. He really made me think to make your life worth living.

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: myviewprem

Very nice post


I would like to put one more point. Family should be the support system for everyone.


Even if friends, colleagues and classmates abondon you, family is last resort


Did Sushant family knew he had depression? If not why they did not know? Why Sushant father was not staying with his son? That would have may be prevented Sushant taking this extreme step


Sometimes what happens family and the persons views clash. Especially people coming from smaller towns their family has different life style. Parents and family do not approve of kids new life style. So they show disapproval by staying out of kids life. Even siblings are encouraged by parents to stay out in case they do not like kids new life style. There s hardly any interaction happening.


Kids also do not want parents out of their life. Because they want to live independent and free. If they stay with parents, its tough to have night out with friends at home. It tough to live in with girl friends or get girl friends home. So kids also do not want parents or siblings staying with them or visiting them often.


This is new modern indian society. Atleast in big cities this is very much happening. There is a disconnect between family and kids. When that happens both stop sharing their pain with each other. Than when you get upset you have no one to tell your mind your pain. Than you get desperate and it leads to tragedy.


I am not saying this may have happened to sushant. But this is happening to people in society. Especially in big cities there are no true friends when you want to say something. No one cares no one helps when you truly need. Not all can individually face everything bravely. Some give up.


So stay in touch with your family your parents and siblings. They may be angry with you for changing your life style. They may not approve of your new ways after coming to a big city. OR you may be born in bigg city only but your family and your life style mis matches. But remember when full world abandons you only a parent only a sibling will hold your hand always. No matter what fights what anger they have you have to just ask and they will leave everything and run to be by your side. When you fall down the gorge only your family will risk life and keep holding your hand and pull you out of the spiral of pitfall. People must realize this. All this flash all this hi fi life style etc all these friends and colleagues are not really there when you truly need them. Do not just push away your family your siblings as soon as you see success in life when you feel they are no longer needed. Never push off your school friends your childhood friends because now you are up there and they are still like before down there in ladder. Your childhood friends your family they are only ones who truly care for you finally when you are down and out. Not your new friends and colleagues who are just sucking up to you because you are a success you are a ladder for them to climb in future they are all friends for benefits usually. Today in modern society to get a true real friend is more tough to find than a needle in a godown full off haystick. Its all friendship with benefits only now.


By the way family comes from word familia - latin word which means servants, maids, parents, siblings, uncle, aunt etc


His father was not aware of his depression or medication. There was an article where it stated that Sushant told his father that he is very stressed how people are treating him like outsider and his dad offered to come but SSR said he will manage it and in few days he will come visit him. Infact he was to complete his education, doctorate degree because his father told him that it is good that you are doing well in your career but you should complete your 2 semester.

He was very close to his sister in USA. She was aware how stress he was as she stated in her post that I hope you are in peace now. From what I have understood SSR knew what he wanted and he knew how to get to his dreams. A guy from engineer to background dancer to a Bollywood successful actor, he knew what he was doing. He was into coding a lot, he cared about poverty, needy people needs.

His family did not approve Rhea but he was not wiling to listen to them. I highly doubt that his family knew about the medication that he was taking. I agree completely with you that it is very challenging to find a true and good friend.

But he was very very close to Shweta Singh and her kids.

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