Mahabharat Retelecast Discussion Thread 5 - Page 56

Originally posted by: Poorabhforever

Ardi romance?? Sorry. All vyasa has indicated his one sided pining from arjuna s side. And drapaudi blessing him as head of the family. More like a Bhabhi to him than a wife.

Sorry arjun never pinned 4 draupadi infact ulta hai , ardi fans always portray Draupadi pinning 4 arjun by presenting different text like draupadi's anger on arjun bringing subhadra , draupadi saying something about missing arjun when he was leaving to get Divya Astra in exile & draupadi taking pain to meet arjun after he return from swarg etc.

Most text r from draupadi side , which shows het pinning only atleast what ardi fans project .

They say arjun insulted Yudi by taking Draupadi's bed name on seventeen day argument b/w Yudi arjun.

Originally na draupadi or na hi arjun ke pass itna time tha ki vo kisse ke liye pine kare as both were 2 busy

Originally posted by: Poorabhforever

Radha is still not mentioned in either mb or harivasma. So....

Vahi maine kaha people don't consider what is mentioned or not but they still worship radha with krishna

Aur ab to itna waqt ho chuka radha krishna ko worship karte hue ki shayad hi koi is baat pe dhyan de

Ab debate kar sakte par kissi ko rok nhi sakte radhakrishan ki pooja karnne se

Originally posted by: deepikagupta9

Sorry arjun never pinned 4 draupadi infact ulta hai , ardi fans always portray Draupadi pinning 4 arjun by presenting different text like draupadi's anger on arjun bringing subhadra , draupadi saying something about missing arjun when he was leaving to get Divya Astra in exile & draupadi taking pain to meet arjun after he return from swarg etc.

Most text r from draupadi side , which shows het pinning only atleast what ardi fans project .

They say arjun insulted Yudi by taking Draupadi's bed name on seventeen day argument b/w Yudi arjun.

That subdhara bringing part was is a gross exaggeration. If you read the actual text you will know.

About drapaudi missing arjuna. CE has removed that part im actual one she talks on behalf of all the pandavas and herself and she "blesses" him.

It was arjuna who did all the pining. Apart from his lashing out at yudhishtra. There is another part in virat parva where he talks about how much he lover her and that drapaudi can never fathom the depth of it . He gave her all the gifts he got indralok. Vyasa calls drapaudi as his love. He never called arjuna as drapaudi s love. Even subdhara or other wives are never called as arjuna s love

The pinning was all from his side not hers.

Originally posted by: deepikagupta9

Vahi maine kaha people don't consider what is mentioned or not but they still worship radha with krishna

Aur ab to itna waqt ho chuka radha krishna ko worship karte hue ki shayad hi koi is baat pe dhyan de

Ab debate kar sakte par kissi ko rok nhi sakte radhakrishan ki pooja karnne se

Main kaha kissi ko rok rahi hu. Everyone is free to have their own belief and faiths. And i am just stating facts

Fact is radha is fiction

Fact is vyasa never calls either radha or rukhmini as laxmi. He only calls panchali.

Ab isske alwa its all about faith and belief. I respect that.

Originally posted by: deepikagupta9

Krishna janam bhumi mandir has radha idol with krishna & it's very beautiful also.

Be it , vrindavan , Mathura , all places krishna being worshipped with radha only .

Infact in vrindavan Kunj Bihari mandir is d most famous mandir where krishna is worshipped alone but if u don't visit radhavallabh mandir which is half krishna & halfradha form before or after visiting kunjbihari mandir , ur darshan r considered incomplete .

Radha Krishna r worshipped outside India also , there is a chain of iscon temple in india

Maybe radha not mentioned into important text but she is considered as ansh of Lakshmi only & wordwidely being worshipped with krishna .

Ab ye kissi ko nhi pata ki agar radha ka mention kahi nhi hai 2 unki pooja krishna ke saath kyu hoti hai. Lekin pooja hoti hai ye pata hai as krishna is world widely known as radhe krishna

In dwarka krishna is worshipped as Dwarkadhish along with Rukmini & Rukmini is considered Lakshmi in dwarka .

Jagannath Puri temple which is one of d teerth celebrated Rukmini krishna vivaah feats as it considers same day Rukmini haran took place & Lakshmi Vishnu United in form of krishna Rukmini. In jagarnath krishna is worshipped along with siblings .

When lord jagarnath rath comes out from mandir 4 rath yatra along with Subhadra & balram it stays at a mandir for sometime which is considered as sasural of lord jagarnath which dedicated to Lakshmi/Rukmini.

@Bold no that place isn't considered as the sasural of Krishnaji, Jagganath, that place is specifically called Mausi Badi or the house of Mausi

Coming to Radha being worshipped in all temples, let's not forget that all the temples in North India (with exception of a few) are not more than 400 years old, all the old temples were demolished by the invaders. The KrishnaJanamsthan temple as you call today is not at actual KrishnaJanamsthan but a slight distance from there.

Now obviously Radha has been considered an accomplice of Krishna for last 600 years, so definitely she would be a part of the later temples

She however finds no mention in any of the authentic texts

Originally posted by: Poorabhforever

She blessed him. Seems like Bhabhi devar bond more than anything. Plus according to see that dusashan part is not even there throughout the speech she talks on behalf of all the pandavas and herself.

You completely want to discredit the Polyandry angle right??

We have difference of opinion here though, I think Polyandry was there

Originally posted by: Poorabhforever

That subdhara bringing part was is a gross exaggeration. If you read the actual text you will know.

About drapaudi missing arjuna. CE has removed that part im actual one she talks on behalf of all the pandavas and herself and she "blesses" him.

It was arjuna who did all the pining. Apart from his lashing out at yudhishtra. There is another part in virat parva where he talks about how much he lover her and that drapaudi can never fathom the depth of it . He gave her all the gifts he got indralok. Vyasa calls drapaudi as his love. He never called arjuna as drapaudi s love. Even subdhara or other wives are never called as arjuna s love

The pinning was all from his side not hers.

There was no pinning from both sides as both were too busy in respective lives

Yudi arjun fight is misinterpreted text shows how much arjun has done 4 Yudi & when Yudi insulted his caliper arjun insulted Yudi back by taunting about sitting in Draupadi's bed coz it was truth it was arjun who won draupadi not Yudi, he won draupadi with his same caliper which Yudi was insulting.

Draupadi taunted him of not protecting her from kichak when arjun was in brihanlal getup , it was normal husband wife talk not lovers , no doubt arjun draupadi do love each other.

It was maithali I guess he is Indra's charioteer who called Draupadi's beloved not arjun himself vyas mentioned that , it was from viewer's vission.

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

You completely want to discredit the Polyandry angle right??

We have difference of opinion here though, I think Polyandry was there

Honestly i keep swinging in between believing it and not. polyandrous like it is mentioned that she was married to all the five. Still there are many instances throughout the epic that prove otherwise. Like you take this particular example. She blesses him. If you read CE there dushashan part is not there. She talks on behalf of all the pandavas and herself and blesses him/wishes him luck a typical Bhabhi devar scene. Husband and wife are equal. So why will either of them "bless" the other. ?? I will never use i bless thee" for my husband.

Originally posted by: deepikagupta9

There was no pinning from both sides as both were too busy in respective lives

Yudi arjun fight is misinterpreted text shows how much arjun has done 4 Yudi & when Yudi insulted his caliper arjun insulted Yudi back by taunting about sitting in Draupadi's bed coz it was truth it was arjun who won draupadi not Yudi, he won draupadi with his same caliper which Yudi was insulting.

Draupadi taunted him of not protecting her from kichak when arjun was in brihanlal getup , it was normal husband wife talk not lovers , no doubt arjun draupadi do love each other.

It was maithali I guess he is Indra's charioteer who called Draupadi's beloved not arjun himself vyas mentioned that , it was from viewer's vission.

Not maithali vaishampanya himself calls panchali as arjuna s love

And when Matali had gone away, that foremost of the royal race, Sakra's son, the high-souled destroyer of all foes made over unto his love, the mother of Sutasoma, beautiful precious gems and ornaments having the splendour of the sun, which had been presented to him by Sakra."

Sadly vaishampanya never calls subdhara or any of this other wives as arjuna s love.

Originally posted by: Poorabhforever

Ardi romance?? Sorry. All vyasa has indicated his one sided pining from arjuna s side. And drapaudi blessing him as head of the family. More like a Bhabhi to him than a wife.

Disagree. There are mention of her pining for him too in front of her other husbands and to satyabhama from what I have read.