Mahabharat Retelecast Discussion Thread 5 - Page 55

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

Bihar, brought up in Jharkhand currently working in Maharashtra

Wow. I am bihar too. Currently living in Kolkata.

Originally posted by: Mages

if she is worship with krishna means she is mention

radha is part of lakshmi too

Radha is not mentioned in MBH, Harivamsa, or Bhagavatham. She is not mentioned in Vishnu Purana. You can double check, triple check, however-many check. Many scholars have tried, and the closest they have come to is actually Nila Devi or Nappinnai from the south who was actually Krishna's child bride.

Don't believe Yudi , amoung all Pandavas draupadi served Yudi d most coz she was full time queen not one year .

Arjun doesn't use 2 stay in indraprastha for very long as he was very busy coz he was in-charge of military forces. Even in exile arjun was most of d time away from draupadi & Pandavas.

Draupadi spent very less time with arjun .

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They all had their job descriptions. Arjuna was foreign affairs, Bheema was defense, Sahadev was administration, Nakula (I think) agriculture and animals, Panchali was finance and citizen liaison.

@Bold. Technically, you were right for the times. What they did was on behalf of the king. But none of them stood around and served Yudhishtira.

@red: It actually says he was away for 5 years. Also, I remember reading, it was mere days for the rest as time passed differently in Indraloka Since I don't believe in the magic/time freeze stuff, my interp is he was away for days. The rest of the Pandavas and Panchali spent this time building other alliances of their own, including with the rakhshasas led by Ghatotkatacha. Panchlai escapes quite a few attacks from enemies, some deliberately targeting her and therefore most likely to be assassins.

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Before Arjuna sets out, this is what Panchali says:

And beholding the heroic Arjuna, of thighs stout as the trunks of the Sala, about to set out taking away with him the hearts of all, Krishna addressed him saying, 'O thou strong-armed one, let all that Kunti had desired at thy birth, and let all that thou desirest, be accomplished, O Dhananjaya! Let no one amongst us be ever again born in the order of Kshatriyas. I always bow down unto the Brahmanas whose mode of living is mendicancy. This is my great grief that the wretch Duryodhana beholding me in the assembly of princes mockingly called me a cow! Besides this he told me in the midst of that assembly many other hard things. But the grief I experience at parting with thee is far greater than any I felt at those insults. Certainly, in thy absence, thy brothers will while away their waking hours in repeatedly talking of thy heroic deeds! If, however, O son of Pritha, thou stayest away for any length of time, we shall derive no pleasure from our enjoyments or from wealth. Nay, life itself will be distasteful to us. O son of Pritha, our weal, and woe, life and death, our kingdom and prosperity, are all dependent on thee. O Bharata, I bless thee, let success be thine. O sinless one, thy (present) task thou wilt be able to achieve even against powerful enemies. O thou of great strength, go thou to win success with speed. Let dangers be not thine. I bow to Dhatri and Vidhatri! I bless thee. Let prosperity be thine. And, O Dhananjaya, let Hri, Sree, Kirti, Dhriti, Pushti, Uma, Lakshmi, Saraswati, all protect thee on thy way, for thou ever worshippest thy elder brother and ever obeyest his commands. And, O bull of the Bharata race, I bow to the Vasus, the Rudras and Adityas, the Manilas, the Viswadevas, and the Sadhyas, for procuring thy welfare. And, O Bharata, be thou safe from all spirits of mischief belonging to the sky, the earth, and the heaven, and from such other spirits generally.'"

Vaisampayana continued, "Krishna, the daughter of Yajnasena, having uttered these benedictions, ceased

https://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m03/m03037.htm

ie, she gives him a blessing.

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And at the command of Indra, however, he lived for full five years in heaven, surrounded by every comfort and luxury.

https://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m03/m03044.htm

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First thing Arjuna does after Indra drops him off is this☺️: "And when Matali had gone away, that foremost of the royal race, Sakra's son, the high-souled destroyer of all foes made over unto his love, the mother of Sutasoma, beautiful precious gems and ornaments having the splendour of the sun, which had been presented to him by Sakra.

https://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m03/m03164.htm

Vyasa hardly ever indulges in writing romance. But this "his love" gets me every time.😆

Sadly, he then goes and sleeps with the twins.😆

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

They all had their job descriptions. Arjuna was foreign affairs, Bheema was defense, Sahadev was administration, Nakula (I think) agriculture and animals, Panchali was finance and citizen liaison.

@Bold. Technically, you were right for the times. What they did was on behalf of the king. But none of them stood around and served Yudhishtira.

@red: It actually says he was away for 5 years. Also, I remember reading, it was mere days for the rest as time passed differently in Indraloka Since I don't believe in the magic/time freeze stuff, my interp is he was away for days. The rest of the Pandavas and Panchali spent this time building other alliances of their own, including with the rakhshasas led by Ghatotkatacha. Panchlai escapes quite a few attacks from enemies, some deliberately targeting her and therefore most likely to be assassins.

____________________

Before Arjuna sets out, this is what Panchali says:

And beholding the heroic Arjuna, of thighs stout as the trunks of the Sala, about to set out taking away with him the hearts of all, Krishna addressed him saying, 'O thou strong-armed one, let all that Kunti had desired at thy birth, and let all that thou desirest, be accomplished, O Dhananjaya! Let no one amongst us be ever again born in the order of Kshatriyas. I always bow down unto the Brahmanas whose mode of living is mendicancy. This is my great grief that the wretch Duryodhana beholding me in the assembly of princes mockingly called me a cow! Besides this he told me in the midst of that assembly many other hard things. But the grief I experience at parting with thee is far greater than any I felt at those insults. Certainly, in thy absence, thy brothers will while away their waking hours in repeatedly talking of thy heroic deeds! If, however, O son of Pritha, thou stayest away for any length of time, we shall derive no pleasure from our enjoyments or from wealth. Nay, life itself will be distasteful to us. O son of Pritha, our weal, and woe, life and death, our kingdom and prosperity, are all dependent on thee. O Bharata, I bless thee, let success be thine. O sinless one, thy (present) task thou wilt be able to achieve even against powerful enemies. O thou of great strength, go thou to win success with speed. Let dangers be not thine. I bow to Dhatri and Vidhatri! I bless thee. Let prosperity be thine. And, O Dhananjaya, let Hri, Sree, Kirti, Dhriti, Pushti, Uma, Lakshmi, Saraswati, all protect thee on thy way, for thou ever worshippest thy elder brother and ever obeyest his commands. And, O bull of the Bharata race, I bow to the Vasus, the Rudras and Adityas, the Manilas, the Viswadevas, and the Sadhyas, for procuring thy welfare. And, O Bharata, be thou safe from all spirits of mischief belonging to the sky, the earth, and the heaven, and from such other spirits generally.'"

Vaisampayana continued, "Krishna, the daughter of Yajnasena, having uttered these benedictions, ceased

https://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m03/m03037.htm

ie, she gives him a blessing.

________________________________

And at the command of Indra, however, he lived for full five years in heaven, surrounded by every comfort and luxury.

https://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m03/m03044.htm

________________________________

First thing Arjuna does after Indra drops him off is this☺️: "And when Matali had gone away, that foremost of the royal race, Sakra's son, the high-souled destroyer of all foes made over unto his love, the mother of Sutasoma, beautiful precious gems and ornaments having the splendour of the sun, which had been presented to him by Sakra.

https://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m03/m03164.htm

Vyasa hardly ever indulges in writing romance. But this "his love" gets me every time.😆

Sadly, he then goes and sleeps with the twins.😆

Panchali blessed arjuna. Key point being blessed. CE remove that panchali lamenting Arjun loss being greater than assault thing.

So over all it was a typical Bhabhi devar scene. Bhabhi blessed devarji. And devar ji has a crush on bhabhishree. 😆

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

They all had their job descriptions. Arjuna was foreign affairs, Bheema was defense, Sahadev was administration, Nakula (I think) agriculture and animals, Panchali was finance and citizen liaison.

@Bold. Technically, you were right for the times. What they did was on behalf of the king. But none of them stood around and served Yudhishtira.

@red: It actually says he was away for 5 years. Also, I remember reading, it was mere days for the rest as time passed differently in Indraloka Since I don't believe in the magic/time freeze stuff, my interp is he was away for days. The rest of the Pandavas and Panchali spent this time building other alliances of their own, including with the rakhshasas led by Ghatotkatacha. Panchlai escapes quite a few attacks from enemies, some deliberately targeting her and therefore most likely to be assassins.

____________________

Before Arjuna sets out, this is what Panchali says:

And beholding the heroic Arjuna, of thighs stout as the trunks of the Sala, about to set out taking away with him the hearts of all, Krishna addressed him saying, 'O thou strong-armed one, let all that Kunti had desired at thy birth, and let all that thou desirest, be accomplished, O Dhananjaya! Let no one amongst us be ever again born in the order of Kshatriyas. I always bow down unto the Brahmanas whose mode of living is mendicancy. This is my great grief that the wretch Duryodhana beholding me in the assembly of princes mockingly called me a cow! Besides this he told me in the midst of that assembly many other hard things. But the grief I experience at parting with thee is far greater than any I felt at those insults. Certainly, in thy absence, thy brothers will while away their waking hours in repeatedly talking of thy heroic deeds! If, however, O son of Pritha, thou stayest away for any length of time, we shall derive no pleasure from our enjoyments or from wealth. Nay, life itself will be distasteful to us. O son of Pritha, our weal, and woe, life and death, our kingdom and prosperity, are all dependent on thee. O Bharata, I bless thee, let success be thine. O sinless one, thy (present) task thou wilt be able to achieve even against powerful enemies. O thou of great strength, go thou to win success with speed. Let dangers be not thine. I bow to Dhatri and Vidhatri! I bless thee. Let prosperity be thine. And, O Dhananjaya, let Hri, Sree, Kirti, Dhriti, Pushti, Uma, Lakshmi, Saraswati, all protect thee on thy way, for thou ever worshippest thy elder brother and ever obeyest his commands. And, O bull of the Bharata race, I bow to the Vasus, the Rudras and Adityas, the Manilas, the Viswadevas, and the Sadhyas, for procuring thy welfare. And, O Bharata, be thou safe from all spirits of mischief belonging to the sky, the earth, and the heaven, and from such other spirits generally.'"

Vaisampayana continued, "Krishna, the daughter of Yajnasena, having uttered these benedictions, ceased

https://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m03/m03037.htm

ie, she gives him a blessing.

________________________________

And at the command of Indra, however, he lived for full five years in heaven, surrounded by every comfort and luxury.

https://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m03/m03044.htm

________________________________

First thing Arjuna does after Indra drops him off is this☺️: "And when Matali had gone away, that foremost of the royal race, Sakra's son, the high-souled destroyer of all foes made over unto his love, the mother of Sutasoma, beautiful precious gems and ornaments having the splendour of the sun, which had been presented to him by Sakra.

https://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m03/m03164.htm

Vyasa hardly ever indulges in writing romance. But this "his love" gets me every time.😆

Sadly, he then goes and sleeps with the twins.😆

I think Vyas has indicated quite unambiguously ArDi romance from all the excerpt I read on Quora & above😆

Originally posted by: Armu4eva

I think Vyas has indicated quite unambiguously ArDi romance from all the excerpt I read on Quora & above😆

Ardi romance?? Sorry. All vyasa has indicated his one sided pining from arjuna s side. And drapaudi blessing him as head of the family. More like a Bhabhi to him than a wife.

Originally posted by: Armu4eva

I think Vyas has indicated quite unambiguously ArDi romance from all the excerpt I read on Quora & above😆

I don't think so. Any romance from Panchali's side seems to have ended after the first couple of years. Rest is all him.

Originally posted by: Poorabhforever

Worshipped or not but she is certainly not mentioned in mb harivasma or even bhagwatam.

And she is certainly not Lakshmi.

Plus all the oldest temple of krishna does not have radha in it.

Krishna janam bhumi mandir has radha idol with krishna & it's very beautiful also.

Be it , vrindavan , Mathura , all places krishna being worshipped with radha only .

Infact in vrindavan Kunj Bihari mandir is d most famous mandir where krishna is worshipped alone but if u don't visit radhavallabh mandir which is half krishna & halfradha form before or after visiting kunjbihari mandir , ur darshan r considered incomplete .

Radha Krishna r worshipped outside India also , there is a chain of iscon temple in india

Maybe radha not mentioned into important text but she is considered as ansh of Lakshmi only & wordwidely being worshipped with krishna .

Ab ye kissi ko nhi pata ki agar radha ka mention kahi nhi hai 2 unki pooja krishna ke saath kyu hoti hai. Lekin pooja hoti hai ye pata hai as krishna is world widely known as radhe krishna

In dwarka krishna is worshipped as Dwarkadhish along with Rukmini & Rukmini is considered Lakshmi in dwarka .

Jagannath Puri temple which is one of d teerth celebrated Rukmini krishna vivaah feats as it considers same day Rukmini haran took place & Lakshmi Vishnu United in form of krishna Rukmini. In jagarnath krishna is worshipped along with siblings .

When lord jagarnath rath comes out from mandir 4 rath yatra along with Subhadra & balram it stays at a mandir for sometime which is considered as sasural of lord jagarnath which dedicated to Lakshmi/Rukmini.

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

I don't think so. Any romance from Panchali's side seems to have ended after the first couple of years. Rest is all him.

She blessed him. Seems like Bhabhi devar bond more than anything. Plus according to see that dusashan part is not even there throughout the speech she talks on behalf of all the pandavas and herself.

Originally posted by: deepikagupta9

Krishna janam bhumi mandir has radha idol with krishna & it's very beautiful also.

Be it , vrindavan , Mathura , all places krishna being worshipped with radha only .

Infact in vrindavan Kunj Bihari mandir is d most famous mandir where krishna is worshipped alone but if u don't visit radhavallabh mandir which is half krishna & halfradha form before or after visiting kunjbihari mandir , ur darshan r considered incomplete .

Radha Krishna r worshipped outside India also , there is a chain of iscon temple in india

Maybe radha not mentioned into important text but she is considered as ansh of Lakshmi only & wordwidely being worshipped with krishna .

Ab ye kissi ko nhi pata ki agar radha ka mention kahi nhi hai 2 unki pooja krishna ke saath kyu hoti hai. Lekin pooja hoti hai ye pata hai as krishna is world widely known as radhe krishna

In dwarka krishna is worshipped as Dwarkadhish along with Rukmini & Rukmini is considered Lakshmi in dwarka .

Jagannath Puri temple which is one of d teerth celebrated Rukmini krishna vivaah feats as it considers same day Rukmini haran took place & Lakshmi Vishnu United in form of krishna Rukmini. In jagarnath krishna is worshipped along with siblings .

When lord jagarnath rath comes out from mandir 4 rath yatra along with Subhadra & balram it stays at a mandir for sometime which is considered as sasural of lord jagarnath which dedicated to Lakshmi/Rukmini.

Radha is still not mentioned in either mb or harivasma. So....