Are people truly "adults" if they live with parents after adulthood? - Page 11

Originally posted by: heartbleed

eww

what is so ewww about it.....do u consider the ewwww as an adult response?? Thats  why I said that being an adult is a state of mind.....calling people living with their parents after 18 as burden...and ewww...is not exactly an adult like behavior IMO...

Adults are those who take the responsibilities that they are supposed to carry....if in the old age parents need care from their children than an adult child will care for them...nothing ewww about it....nothing ewww about wanting to live with ones family even if they do not need ur help....

Originally posted by: Mahisa22

Bold: I don't think that's true in India. No M.Sc or MBA will do a security guard's job in India, whereas in the USA, even a science graduate has to do menial jobs like receptionist or janitor. I know this by reading up on the US and by interacting on Americans on message boards. 

Cost of higher education is extremely high in the USA as well, which is why most students do jobs in college to fund that education. 

Mahisa, I think your worldview is very narrow as of now. You just "read up" on US,  it's like hearing anti-vaxxers  say that they did their "reasearch".

How old are you?  Because if you're a teen, I understand why you're saying this. It happens. 

It's very true in India that people work below their qualification. I've seen chaprasis with bachelor or masters degree. Even an uncle in my family who has a law degree and a PhD in history hasn't gotten a job and working at a low level job as compared to his qualifications. 

This happens because of few reasons : 1) Tough competition because of high population 

2) Faulty education system. Our 75% graduates aren't even considered employable. So companies have to train them before employing them Even though these people spent 4 years learning job skills.  

3) Have you ever heard people taking fake degrees?  People do that here. Heck, I know a few people personally who did that. So this is the reason why people aren't able to get jobs and have to apply to low level jobs because they have to feed their families too. 

Do you know how many children apply for college entrance exams just for about 10,000 seats in government colleges?  15-20 lakh. 

They want government college because the fees of private college is too high.No middle income household can pay without a loan. 

People in US do jobs even though they're pursuing the science not because they don't have any money, it's because they want to get some work experience or earn their own money which they have to spend on themselves  A lot of parents don't fund their children's college too, so they work to afford their own education.

India doesn't have a student working culture isiliye most students don't work, more of parents want their children to only focus on studying. Our situation is completely different

from the US. 

Yahan students barely study anything other than science or law and those who study arts or commerce are aiming for government jobs which are really hard to get in.

Just about a handful do something else than this. 

India had recently improved it's poverty condition so it's save to say that many people have had a history of poverty if in case they're still not facing it.

My family has been from a poor background too. My parents worked hard and we're in a manageable position now. Ab they want me to study hard and do much better than them so that we'll never ever face poverty again. 

Yahan par parents want their kids to not fall back into poverty isiliye they want us to only study and not work unlike in the US where they get enough money by even working in retail. 

Ours is developing country so the sole focus is on not facing poverty anymore. First, we need to grow to a point where we can live and not just survive uske baad social reforms would come eventually along with prosperity. 

Edited by Guneet80 - 3 years ago

Originally posted by: Mahisa22

But cost of higher education in USA is 10 times more than in India.  What about that?

They also have much much more Per Capita Income as compared to India. 

The ten times more comparison is unfair because of the 1$ = 71INR conversion rates. So the ten times more thing that you mentioned is a mere fallacy. It's like reading in the newspaper that "this IT fellow got crores package in US". This is wrong because it much be a huge in our economy because of 1$=71INR but if those crores are converted to US dollars then we'll understand they're being paid peanuts as compared to their US counterparts. 

They're the #1 economy. You can say India is #3 but that's just a fallacy. India is #3 economy with respect to PPP(Purchasing Power Parity). 

US is a 21 Trillion $ economy while India is a mere 3 Trillion $ economy. 

Now US has #10 highest per capita incomes in the world while India ranks at #139!

Do you see the difference? 

Mahisa please research a bit more. I've done these same mistakes in the past, believing half-baked facts and it has cost me my US college applications. Please do proper research before dishing out incomplete information. 

Originally posted by: Mahisa22

That's not true. In India, 100 rupees is a very small amount if money for most people. But for Americans, 100 dollars is like 500-600 rupees. Even if something costs 10 dollars, they will call it fairly expensive. 

And the prices are balanced in both the countries according to exchange rate. For example, what costs 7500 in India will cost 100-200 dollars in USA. A 350 Rs movie ticket will be around 15 dollars in the US. 

I agree on the salary being good, but still students in the US complain about not being able to afford good Universities even with two jobs. 

Girl, I seriously need to know how old are you omg?!

Do you know anything about international currency conversion rates? Do you? 

1 $ = 71INR(average estimate) 

There 100$ is a huge amount because the way their currency works is different from us. 

Rupee is the lowest unit of currency in India. No paisa or aana anymore so 100 Rs. Isn't a big deal. 

While in the US, they have pennies, cents and then comes dollar. Dollar is the highest unit of currency there hence 100$ is a big deal. 

They have three units in their currency while we have only one that is rupee. So, just for understanding, you may assume that 100$ in the US is something like 10,000 rs. In India. That's why it's a big deal. 

Students complain there about not being able to afford universities there because the average median salary of an American household and I'm talking about white household is around 50k $ and this salary ratio goes even lower for races like black and Latina so they earn even less than that. 

While US is a full throttle capitalist nation unlike India which is mildly socialist. So US is a completely free market run by private entities even colleges. 

All colleges in the US are private hence they extort an extreme amount of fee per semester. The tuition fee alone comes at 30k-50k $ every year and they have to pay living expenses and money for books etc separately. 

Their minimum hour wage is also low as compared to other highly developed countries. Now, minimum wage issue only hurts the students and the working class not the rich so students spent tens of years paying loan debts taken for college. 

In India, tuition fees seem crazy to us because we're don't have enough per capita income and we generally have one stay at home parent. 

If we discuss tuition fee in private Indian colleges relative to Indian middle class, it's extremely high. Private medical colleges charge in crores, engineering colleges in 11-20 lakhs(good colleges) and so does MBA. 

Isiliye children live with parents because they exhaust all their money in their kids education and the kid somehow feel indebted to take care of them because they spent their retirement money on his education. 

Originally posted by: Guneet80

Mahisa, I think your worldview is very narrow as of now. 

Especially considering we’re in a damn pandemic. 😆 I’m in upstate New York with like 9 other people and babies 😆 it’s not ideal but ya have to make it work 

Originally posted by: heartbleed

You are a burden on earth forget being an adult if you are living with your parents even after 18. 

I know that I have already responded to this but the choice of words used is incredibly distasteful. Seeing that you chose to be immature about it with your eww response showed that you had no intention to clarify or revoke your statement. Fcuk that if you think I’m going to overlook it. 

You are a burden on earth’.

From what angle did you think it was ever okay to make a pathetic statement like that? Words have consequences, you do realise that, yeah? Just because members here are faceless/nameless doesn’t give you the right to say something like that, especially disregarding the fact that everyone has their own personal struggles in life. People have their own reasons to continue living with parents as an adult.  To call them a burden on earth is minimising their worth and for some people who suffer from a chronic physical or mental health condition, it can reinforce their feelings of worthlessness. 

Don’t just vomit out words carelessly with a poor attempt of a holier than thou attitude. You’re just casting a really negative image for yourself and it’s not cool mate. Also, if you are over 18 and have formed this kind of attitude living independently, then I’d prefer to live with my family anyday at the risk of holding this much contempt towards others. 

Originally posted by: Guneet80

Girl, I seriously need to know how old are you omg?!

Do you know anything about international currency conversion rates? Do you? 

1 $ = 71INR(average estimate) 

There 100$ is a huge amount because the way their currency works is different from us. 

Rupee is the lowest unit of currency in India. No paisa or aana anymore so 100 Rs. Isn't a big deal. 

While in the US, they have pennies, cents and then comes dollar. Dollar is the highest unit of currency there hence 100$ is a big deal. 

They have three units in their currency while we have only one that is rupee. So, just for understanding, you may assume that 100$ in the US is something like 10,000 rs. In India. That's why it's a big deal. 

Students complain there about not being able to afford universities there because the average median salary of an American household and I'm talking about white household is around 50k $ and this salary ratio goes even lower for races like black and Latina so they earn even less than that. 

While US is a full throttle capitalist nation unlike India which is mildly socialist. So US is a completely free market run by private entities even colleges. 

All colleges in the US are private hence they extort an extreme amount of fee per semester. The tuition fee alone comes at 30k-50k $ every year and they have to pay living expenses and money for books etc separately. 

Their minimum hour wage is also low as compared to other highly developed countries. Now, minimum wage issue only hurts the students and the working class not the rich so students spent tens of years paying loan debts taken for college. 

In India, tuition fees seem crazy to us because we're don't have enough per capita income and we generally have one stay at home parent. 

If we discuss tuition fee in private Indian colleges relative to Indian middle class, it's extremely high. Private medical colleges charge in crores, engineering colleges in 11-20 lakhs(good colleges) and so does MBA. 

Isiliye children live with parents because they exhaust all their money in their kids education and the kid somehow feel indebted to take care of them because they spent their retirement money on his education. 

I'm in my 30s, actually. So calm your horses. Its extremely childish to jump to conclusions about someone's worldview or intelligence when you don't know them personally. Lets act mature and discuss like adults. 

First, even kids know the international currency exchange rates (its 75 btw) I was just throwing around average figures and not on exact exchange calculation.

You're contradicting yourself. In your first reply you said that "people work not because they don't have money but because they wanna be independent and store up for living well". Fair enough. But the person "myviewprem" was arguing that the per hour wage is very high even for labourers. And you agreed with him/her.

However, now you're directly contradicting that bu saying that per hour wages are low. Again, everyone and their street dog knows that USA is a capitalist country and that universities are privately owned. And exorbitant course fees in US universities are also common knowledge among educated common people in India.  

So where exactly did I say anything wrong? I said, "Students complain that they cannot afford course/semester fees even with two jobs". I think that matches everything you said about American education system (which is very very common knowledge).

Please read my exchange with myviewprem. He/she said that "10 dollars in US is like 10 rupees in India", to which I strongly disagreed and said that nope, in the USA even small amounts are treated as huge, and that's because of the international exchange rate. So again, I said exactly what you did. Maybe the exact figures were wrong since I was too lazy to calculate stuff for an online forum. 

I don't know why you're so agitated, but you really need to calm TF down. And maybe not speculate about a whole person's whole "world view" based on a single online post. It makes YOU sound like a kid who's desperate to show off. 😆

Edited by Mahisa22 - 3 years ago

Originally posted by: Guneet80

Also Guneet, are you new to social media? Because I don't think any normal mature adult nowadays judges someone's whole personality from some random online post.

This is something people used to do when social media was a new thing. People used to assume that they know somebody's whole personality profile and biodata from random posts here and there in the internet. But with time, adults have realized how mind-numbingly stupid that is. 

Nowadays, people who do that are either simple-minded idiots or pre-teens. You're not either, are you? So calm down. 

Edited by Mahisa22 - 3 years ago

Originally posted by: Mahisa22

I'm in my 30s, actually. So calm your horses. Its extremely childish to jump to conclusions about someone's worldview or intelligence when you don't know them personally. Lets act mature and discuss like adults. 

First, even kids know the international currency exchange rates (its 75 btw) I was just throwing around average figures and not on exact exchange calculation.

You're contradicting yourself. In your first reply you said that "people work not because they don't have money but because they wanna be independent and store up for living well". Fair enough. But the person "myviewprem" was arguing that the per hour wage is very high even for labourers. And you agreed with him/her.

However, now you're directly contradicting that bu saying that per hour wages are low. Again, everyone and their street dog knows that USA is a capitalist country and that universities are privately owned. And exorbitant course fees in US universities are also common knowledge among educated common people in India.  

So where exactly did I say anything wrong? I said, "Students complain that they cannot afford course/semester fees even with two jobs". I think that matches everything you said about American education system (which is very very common knowledge).

Please read my exchange with myviewprem. He/she said that "10 dollars in US is like 10 rupees in India", to which I strongly disagreed and said that nope, in the USA even small amounts are treated as huge, and that's because of the international exchange rate. So again, I said exactly what you did. Maybe the exact figures were wrong since I was too lazy to calculate stuff for an online forum. 

I don't know why you're so agitated, but you really need to calm TF down. And maybe not speculate about a whole person's whole "world view" based on a single online post. It makes YOU sound like a kid who's desperate to show off. 😆

Wow 😂 you're taking like I'm attacking you or something.

It's okay, even people in their 30's may sometimes not know much about a topic. It's okay, no big deal. 

Also,  no need to mention it's common knowledge etc after every sentence. I know that's common knowledge, but I said it anyway in case, you didn't know. 

 I'm glad kids know international currency exchange rates. Good to know.

But anyway, addressing your points. As you said, I agreed with another user that minimum wage in US is very high but I said that IN COMPARISON TO INDIA. 

While I clearly said, US minimum wage is very low as COMPARED TO OTHER DEVELOPED COUNTRIES. 

Please go read my comment and understand the difference between these two statements. India is a developing country not a developed country so these two points are completely different, which are listed above. 

You point wasn't wrong but your basis of comparison between India and the US is absolutely wrong. You need to understand the difference between both countries in every term before making any sort of comparisons. 

I'm not agitated lol. I asked it because I thought how can someone not know this and I was kinda laughing. But of course internet has a tone problem and you never get hold of in what tone another person is talking. So there's that. 

You might think whatever you wanna think about me. I replied because it's an open forum. Peace out.

Originally posted by: Mahisa22

I'm in my 30s, actually. So calm your horses. Its extremely childish to jump to conclusions about someone's worldview or intelligence when you don't know them personally. Lets act mature and discuss like adults. 

First, even kids know the international currency exchange rates (its 75 btw) I was just throwing around average figures and not on exact exchange calculation.

You're contradicting yourself. In your first reply you said that "people work not because they don't have money but because they wanna be independent and store up for living well". Fair enough. But the person "myviewprem" was arguing that the per hour wage is very high even for labourers. And you agreed with him/her.

However, now you're directly contradicting that bu saying that per hour wages are low. Again, everyone and their street dog knows that USA is a capitalist country and that universities are privately owned. And exorbitant course fees in US universities are also common knowledge among educated common people in India.  

So where exactly did I say anything wrong? I said, "Students complain that they cannot afford course/semester fees even with two jobs". I think that matches everything you said about American education system (which is very very common knowledge).

Please read my exchange with myviewprem. He/she said that "10 dollars in US is like 10 rupees in India", to which I strongly disagreed and said that nope, in the USA even small amounts are treated as huge, and that's because of the international exchange rate. So again, I said exactly what you did. Maybe the exact figures were wrong since I was too lazy to calculate stuff for an online forum. 

I don't know why you're so agitated, but you really need to calm TF down. And maybe not speculate about a whole person's whole "world view" based on a single online post. It makes YOU sound like a kid who's desperate to show off. 😆

Also,  go back to read your responses and think if they project you being gullible or not. 

Either you were being purposely vague or didn't know about the said topic because lmao you replies were absolutely weird which everybody agreed upon. 

So I think,  if you know everything all this time and it was "common knowledge" even for a "street dog" and I'm a "simple minded child " just to reply you with basic difference between the US and India, then you need to be more articulate next time. 

Bye