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Originally posted by: deepikagupta9

Why Kunti was angry on vasudev & sursen ?

She blamed them for giving her away to Kuntibhoj in her conversation with Krishna.

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

You know... I actually looked up the scene which I should've done before.

From CE:

ishampayana said, ‘Hearing the words of their eldest brother, all of Pandu’s sons, of infinite

energy, were pleased and began to think about the purport of those words. Suspecting them

to be the foremost of the Kurus, the chief of the Vrishnis43 and Rohini’s son

44 then came to

the potter’s house, where those foremost among men were living. Krishna and Rohini’s son

saw Ajatashatru,45 with long and thick arms, seated there. In a circle around him sat the

others, like blazing fires. Vasudeva went to Kunti’s son, foremost among those who follow

dharma. He touched with his hands the feet of King Ajamidha46 Yudhishthira and said, “I am

Krishna.” Rohini’s son went to Yudhishthira and did the same. Seeing them, the descendants

of Kuru were greatly delighted. O chief of the Bharata lineage! The chiefs of the Yadu lineage

then touched the feet of their father’s sister.47

‘Seeing Krishna, Ajatashatru, chief among the Kurus, asked him about his welfare and said,

“O Vasudeva! When we are living here in disguise, how did you manage to track us down?”

Vasudeva smiled and replied, “O king! Even when fire is covered, it comes out. Who but the

Pandavas can display such valour among men? O destroyers of enemies! It was through good

fortune that you escaped from that fire. It was through good fortune that Dhritarashtra’s evil

son and his advisers did not succeed in their desires. Be blessed. Prosper, the way a fire

hidden in a cave gradually expands and spreads. Permit us to return to camp. Otherwise, the

kings may discover you.” Then, taking permission from the Pandavas, the eternally radiant

one quickly went away, accompanied by Baladeva.

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Krishna introduced himself to YUDHISHTIRA.

Yudhishtira doesn't ask, "How did you recognize us?"

He asked, "How did you track us down?"

Krishna's response makes it clear Pandavas didn't know Krishna believed they might be alive.

Ie, they didn't meet after lac house.

If Pandavas knew Krishna before, would they be wandering and deciding on death? When Arjuna was supposed to be such good friends?

It is same in KMG

I just had confusion because of our discussion about Krishna being Vasudev's description

I don't think Krishna and Arjuna were friends at this point

Krishna and Krishnasur are supposed to have lived in different eras.

Krishnasur has been mentioned to be an Asur(this Asur is for demon not for powerful since he loses to Indra easily) while Krishna was a human form.

He is inside the river Ashumati and not Yamuna, I don't think they are same.

Aside as I said Krishna never had wives and cows together unlike Krishnasur

Originally posted by: NoraSM

It is same in KMG

I just had confusion because of our discussion about Krishna being Vasudev's description

I don't think Krishna and Arjuna were friends at this point

I get it. I'll look up Krishna's naamkaran again. I believe he was called Govinda, but now I'm confused.😆

Panchali's is clearly stated as KrishnA. Arjuna says his father called him that because of color, so for him at least, we know that was not a real name.

Krishna Arjuna friendship I think started with Subhadraharan. I think Krishna asks for eternal friendship or some such after Khandavadahana.

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

Hey 75 pages!🥳

We need to reach 150

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

I get it. I'll look up Krishna's naamkaran again. I believe he was called Govinda, but now I'm confused.😆

Panchali's is clearly stated as KrishnA. Arjuna says his father called him that because of color, so for him at least, we know that was not a real name.

Krishna Arjuna friendship I think started with Subhadraharan. I think Krishna asks for eternal friendship or some such after Khandavadahana.

Even vedvyas is krishna😆 bada confusion😆

Krishna dwaipayan is termed as fourth krishna.

I am trying to search Krishna's naming ceremony and all I am getting in speaking tree article

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

I get it. I'll look up Krishna's naamkaran again. I believe he was called Govinda, but now I'm confused.😆

Panchali's is clearly stated as KrishnA. Arjuna says his father called him that because of color, so for him at least, we know that was not a real name.

Krishna Arjuna friendship I think started with Subhadraharan. I think Krishna asks for eternal friendship or some such after Khandavadahana.

@bold is this true?? I thought it was some creative liberty by SP Mahabharata

Yaayyy!!!! 75 pages done 75 more to go 🥳

In Ramanand Sagar Krishna serial he was named Krishna in gokul by kulguru of yadavas rishi garg.