Draupadi- Satyabhama Conversation - Page 10

Originally posted by: Poorabhforever

How are we going to compare these two beautiful ladies of all times. Sita and drapaudi both of them went through a lot came out stronger. How do we measure who was stronger?? Who suffered more ??

I prefer Panchali as a character. ❤️

Originally posted by: CaptainSpark

No she isn't weak, she is just not the person I admire. She is a rule abiding woman and the societal representation of an ideal woman.

Ok thank u for clearing

Originally posted by: CaptainSpark

I prefer Panchali as a character. ❤️

I prefer panchali too over every other character Ramayana and Mahabharata combined. Though i think its quite unfair to compare them or everything they went through.

Originally posted by: deepikagupta9

I know she dint followed him in exile she was very much asked 2 .

Draupadi was included in exile 4 political reasons , sita was never include in exile she herself choose 2 go infact kaikayee mantra was against sita going as they fear ram sita can have kids in exile

Vedvyas MB never say she walked away from them , she mocked yudhishthira insulted him couple of times publicly also .

Bheem was there 4 draupadi in exile be it kheechak, jaydrath, some name jatasur also. Draupadi was never alone even in exile

Who was there 4 sita in lanka, trijata or vibhishan, yes people say it was Sita's mistake 4 crossing lakshman rekha but she felt as her duty that nobody should return empty hand from Ram's house. Raavan tried 2 hard 2 break sita but failed miserably.

Yes Valmik gave shelter 2 sita , it was sita who bravery brought her 2 sons luv kush as a single mother.

I know I will tagged as hater of draupadi but I don't care 4 it

Nobody said u hate Drau.

You said Draupadi forgave Yudhishthir. Adhya (Poorabhforever) simply asked you for citation, because she never did. Draupadi never forgave Yudhishthir.

Also, we do not know which version is truth. Many versions tell many tales. Nepali versions are also considered authentic. But even going by KMG, BORI CE - where did Draupadi forgive them?

Originally posted by: Chiillii

Not just a woman, i find any man who is humble, polite, respectful with everyone. Fulfills their responsibilties in the best possible way. Keeping the needs of others before self. Truly devoted. Not sarcastic or arrogant or filled with jealousy. A good person

These are good qualities to have as per me.

Also true that these were only expected from women in dwapar yuga and not men

Having said that. Just as I wrote in my first post She was raised with this conditioning or brainwashing. And till Dyut Sabha that is how she behaved.

You have every one calling her sweet speeched. You have Duryodhan telling Dhritrashtra how she served food to everyone, even beggers and handicapped. Woke up first slept last. She wasnt tallying account books all the time

Yudhishtir calls her the most ideal woman before he stakes her.

Kunti who only cared for her sons, by the timE of Dyut Sabha cared more for her than her own sons.

One facet of her charachter does not take away the other.

A person with humility can also be just and fair

A person who is not an egotist can also stand up for themselves

A person who serves food lovingly can also take up a sword with the same hand when the need arises.

People in Kaliyuga are too self centred in my opinion. It does not have to be me first all the time.

Draupadi was never self centred.

The war that she kept asking for was also with a sense of justice for her, her family and society. It was not a self serving revenge for her

She was brainwashed into believing it but she didn't follow it for good reasons.

She was not arrogant or jealous. She spoke to people the way they deserved.

This particular conversation makes her look like some husband devoted woman who considers their husband's wellbeing the biggest priority on earth Nd I strongly oppose it.

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

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@Bishti, I think the question was how she commanded that position and love in Pandavas lives, it is to that which she answers all those points. She says that she did all these(obviously before dice hall) to get that love and respect. She doesn't mean she would continue doing the same even henceforth.

She specifies that there was no black magic, which is why Satyabhama apologizes

My name is Brishti 😆

A woman who serves men before herself and thinks husbands are God for her, even if the husband is the most ideal man like Ram, is not desirable. I don't think Draupadi was someone to treat her husbands like God. Even pre dyut sabha I do not think it is viable for any woman to think of themselves to be born to serve men and be ao devotes as to never think of anything but husband's well being amd always serve husband before herself and consider husbands gods.

Originally posted by: deepikagupta9

Where did she punished Yudi for this crime .

Not punishing is not forgiving. She can't go murder him or ask him to get out of the house can she? What means did she have to punish him? She openly showed her displeasure, she vocally pointed out how hurt, disappointed and insulted she is. She argued with him several times. What on earth makes you feel she forgave him? Unless she States it clearly there's no reason to believe that.

Originally posted by: Poorabhforever

I prefer panchali too over every other character Ramayana and Mahabharata combined. Though i think its quite unfair to compare them or everything they went through.

Yeah not comparing.. I was trying to give sita's example to explain my point. Not to say any of the two women are weak or bad. Sorry if ir seemed so 😆

Originally posted by: CaptainSpark

Yeah not comparing.. I was trying to give sita's example to explain my point. Not to say any of the two women are weak or bad. Sorry if ir seemed so 😆

Not talking about their general characteristics. Just i don't think there is any machine to measure who was "stronger". I know you didn't.

Originally posted by: CaptainSpark

My name is Brishti 😆

A woman who serves men before herself and thinks husbands are God for her, even if the husband is the most ideal man like Ram, is not desirable. I don't think Draupadi was someone to treat her husbands like God. Even pre dyut sabha I do not think it is viable for any woman to think of themselves to be born to serve men and be ao devotes as to never think of anything but husband's well being amd always serve husband before herself and consider husbands gods.

Sorry for mistyping your name

I don't think it has to do with Dwapar Yug standards. The family needs to work that way, everyone serves or thinks for other members before themselves (remember the famous dialogue by SRK in Chak de India? Har player pehle team k liye khelega, fir Apne saathiyon k liye fir agar thoda time bach Gaya to khud k liye- do you think he was teaching the girls some Dwapar Yug standards? No he was teaching team work and family is a team) there was nothing wrong in expecting women to think for others before self, wrong was to expect this only from females. The modern days equality has both thinking for self before others, although it should have the reverse both thinking for others before self

Husband as God and Wife as Devi is another thing to uplift the position of your spouse so high that you can go to any extent for each other. Isn't that exactly any person wants from their spouses?

Not attending nature's call is definitely an exaggeration

People say that Kaliyug is worst, but according to me Dwapar was worst for the ladies. The rules which uptil Treta were both for males and females became selectively for females in Dwapar giving men undue advantage. Kaliyug maybe bad for males because now even females are leaving those rules(men getting devoid of that undue advantage)