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What I think...

Yudhishtira was in late 20s. Perhaps Devika died at childbirth. Arjuna and twins would've been mid 20s. Same for Krishna.

Pradyumna was actually supposed to be similar age to Krishna as he apparently had a growth spurt 😆. So he'd have been early 20s. Not surprising he'd have a child, a baby Aniruddha.

Krishna would have 3 wives by now, or 2 if Rulmini didn't exist as I suspect she didn't.

Panchali was 16 at swayamvar.

Arjuna's exile was 13 months, putting HIM in late 20s by Subhadraharan.

I think Yudhishtir was 24, with devika married and dead during childbirth. Yaudheya his son may or may not have been alive at that.point

Bhima 22 and a half

Arjun 21 and twins 21 or 20 when he married a 16 yr old Draupadi.

Then while IP is built Draupadi has a daughter Suthanu for Yudhishtir. Then Pandvas marry other wives. In between Arjun goes for a 13 month exile and returns with pregnant subhadra.

So most likely 24 year old Arjun marries a 15 year old subhadra

If Yaudheya was alive Draupadi may have adopted him and named Prativindhya.Then rest of the children to other wives of Pandavs duly adopted by her. That is why we dont get any mention of them anywhere else in the whole epic, not even in war or post war after evwryone is back in Hastinapur.

5 Draupadi's sons were other wives sons she adopted as her own. Because she had just one daughter. These 5 sons then die during the war.

I beleive Draupadi had just one child a daughter born to Yudhishtir. Though I do believe in her polyandrous marriage.

They rule peacefully for 5 years before exile, then 13 years in exile.

So 21 yr old Arjun at Swayamvar would be 39 years old Arjun at the time of war with a 16 year old Abhimanyu with him. If he only went for a 12 month exile

But if we consider Arjun went for a 12 year exile. It will make a 35 year old Arjun married to 15 yr old subhadra. And him 54 year old at the time of war with 16 year old Abhimanyu.

So Arjun and Krishna woukd be either 39 or 54 around the war.

Either is ok by me.

That is logical calculation. Not the magical calculation.

By magical calculation they can be any age even 5000 year old and like in ekta kapoor serial eternally young

Prativindhya was born in kampilya d very first year of Yudi & draupadi

Originally posted by: Chiillii

I think Yudhishtir was 24, with devika married and dead during childbirth. Yaudheya his son may or may not have been alive at that.point

Bhima 22 and a half

Arjun 21 and twins 21 or 20 when he married a 16 yr old Draupadi.

Then while IP is built Draupadi has a daughter Suthanu for Yudhishtir. Then Pandvas marry other wives. In between Arjun goes for a 13 month exile and returns with pregnant subhadra.

So most likely 24 year old Arjun marries a 15 year old subhadra

If Yaudheya was alive Draupadi may have adopted him and named Prativindhya.Then rest of the children to other wives of Pandavs duly adopted by her. That is why we dont get any mention of them anywhere else in the whole epic, not even in war or post war after evwryone is back in Hastinapur.

5 Draupadi's sons were other wives sons she adopted as her own. Because she had just one daughter. These 5 sons then die during the war.

I beleive Draupadi had just one child a daughter born to Yudhishtir. Though I do believe in her polyandrous marriage.

They rule peacefully for 5 years before exile, then 13 years in exile.

So 21 yr old Arjun at Swayamvar would be 39 years old Arjun at the time of war with a 16 year old Abhimanyu with him. If he only went for a 12 month exile

But if we consider Arjun went for a 12 year exile. It will make a 35 year old Arjun married to 15 yr old subhadra. And him 54 year old at the time of war with 16 year old Abhimanyu.

So Arjun and Krishna woukd be either 39 or 54 around the war.

Either is ok by me.

That is logical calculation. Not the magical calculation.

By magical calculation they can be any age even 5000 year old and like in ekta kapoor serial eternally young

Arjun and Subhadra need to have at least 11years difference since she wasn't born till Krishna killed Kansa. And Arjun, Krishna are of the same age.

Although Subhadra could be 12 too at the time of her abduction since she was abducted so she might not actually be of marriageable age.

I still don't think it was just a 12 months exile since back then they didn't have high speed cars, so him going to Manipur, Nagaland etc. From Delhi, marrying there, going to Dwarika, abducting Subhadra and returning to Delhi/Indraprasth all in 12 months seems highly improbable to me. I would hence go by the 12 year exile logic, also because they needed to establish the state of Indraprasth properly before going for the Rajsuya Yagya it couldn't be possible in 1-2 years since the land was filled Robbers and infiltrators(Nagas). Plus Rajsuya Yagya and winning over states would also need at least 2-3 years. So the time between game of dice n Indraprasth accession can not be just 5 years

If Draupadi had just one daughter (and no other child, she should have had at least a mention in the epic)

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

Arjun and Subhadra need to have at least 11years difference since she wasn't born till Krishna killed Kansa. And Arjun, Krishna are of the same age.

Although Subhadra could be 12 too at the time of her abduction since she was abducted so she might not actually be of marriageable age.

I still don't think it was just a 12 months exile since back then they didn't have high speed cars, so him going to Manipur, Nagaland etc. From Delhi, marrying there, going to Dwarika, abducting Subhadra and returning to Delhi/Indraprasth all in 12 months seems highly improbable to me. I would hence go by the 12 year exile logic, also because they needed to establish the state of Indraprasth properly before going for the Rajsuya Yagya it couldn't be possible in 1-2 years since the land was filled Robbers and infiltrators(Nagas). Plus Rajsuya Yagya and winning over states would also need at least 2-3 years. So the time between game of dice n Indraprasth accession can not be just 5 years

If Draupadi had just one daughter (and no other child, she should have had at least a mention in the epic)

13 months exile as per summary of Adi Parva. And travelling horse, the distance was entirely possible. You could calculate using distance and one horsepower speed.

If Arjuna was, say 25 at Panchali swayamvar, and they spent 3 or 4 years in Khandava before exile, he'd have been 29 when he met Subhadra. Putting Krishna in his mid teens when she was born, she would've been 15 or 16 at the time of abduction.

Imperial campaign and rajasuya happened AFTER abduction, so should not be factored into calculating time until then.

Panchali swayamvar - Panchali 16, Arjuna 25, Krishna 25

Say 3 years until Arjuna's exile.

13 month exile.

Subhadraharan- Subhadra 15, Arjuna 29, Krishna 29, Panchali 20

Abhimanyu's birth add 1 year

Imperial campaign and rajasuya say 5 years Panchali 26, Arjuna 35, Krishna 35

Dice game and exile 13 years. At the end of it, Panchali 39, Arjuna 48, Krishna 48. Abhimanyu 21

Just a thought

Why can't exile after dice hall be of 13 months? 12 months normal and 1 month incognito

Not ALOT happens in Vana Parva

1 year incognito is only about Keechak killing, I mean Keechak had one year, how come he sees Draupadi in Last month?

Originally posted by: NoraSM

Just a thought

Why can't exile after dice hall be of 13 months? 12 months normal and 1 month incognito

Not ALOT happens in Vana Parva

1 year incognito is only about Keechak killing, I mean Keechak had one year, how come he sees Draupadi in Last month?

Actually plenty happened in exile. Arjuna negotiates with the deva tribes, Bheema and Panchali arrange an attack on Kubera and take over gem mines, Yudhishtira negotiates with Rishi groups for political support.

After the negotiations are done, Krishna et al do come and ask if they want to consider the exile done. Yudhishtira refuses and opts to complete the 12+1 period.

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

13 months exile as per summary of Adi Parva. And travelling horse, the distance was entirely possible. You could calculate using distance and one horsepower speed.

If Arjuna was, say 25 at Panchali swayamvar, and they spent 3 or 4 years in Khandava before exile, he'd have been 29 when he met Subhadra. Putting Krishna in his mid teens when she was born, she would've been 15 or 16 at the time of abduction.

Imperial campaign and rajasuya happened AFTER abduction, so should not be factored into calculating time until then.

I read Subhadra was born when krishna balram were in gurukul , I guess krishna killed kansa at 11.

Originally posted by: HearMeRoar

Actually plenty happened in exile. Arjuna negotiates with the deva tribes, Bheema and Panchali arrange an attack on Kubera and take over gem mines, Yudhishtira negotiates with Rishi groups for political support.

After the negotiations are done, Krishna et al do come and ask if they want to consider the exile done. Yudhishtira refuses and opts to complete the 12+1 period.

But I don't think it takes 12 years

They did it simultaneously

Any chance in any of this taking place in more than one year?

I think it makes more sense for incognito to be of 1 month as the only thing which happens is Keechak Vadh, What are the chances that he didn't see Draupadi for 11 months, sees her in last month and tries to molest her?

If Arjuna can marry 3 times roam around India on horse back in 13 months, Ashvamegha and everything which happened after Kurukshetra war can happen in 36 months then why can't exile after Dice hall be of 13 months?