Polyandry in Mahabharata - Page 12

Originally posted by: CaptainSpark

Btw @all who said there was no law, out of topic question...

https://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m01/m01215.htm

Vaisampayana continued, 'The illustrious Pandavas, thus addressed by the great Rishi Narada, consulting with one another, established a rule amongst themselves in the presence of the celestial Rishi himself endued with immeasurable energy. And the rule they made was that when one of them would be sitting with Draupadi, any of the other four who would see that one thus must retire into the forest for twelve years, passing his days as a Brahmacharin. After the virtuous Pandavas had established that rule amongst themselves, the great Muni Narada, gratified with them, went to the place he wished. Thus, O Janamejaya, did the Pandavas urged by Narada, established a rule amongst themselves in regard to their common wife. And it was for this, O Bharata, that no dispute ever arose between them.'"

Just a question, if this was the "rule", then wasn't YUDHISHTHIR supposed to be exiled if HE saw ARJUN trying to use his "male weapon" On Drau considering there was no one year rule among Pandavas of drau being wife to only one

I think you should post this in the subdhara thread. There this discussion was going on

https://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m01/m01224.htm

Here is another link where kmg state about jealousy of draupdi

Draupdi said to arjun yahan kya kar rahe ho jaao us subhadra ke paas

Then subhadra said to draupdi I am ur maid then after this line of subhadra draupdi accept subhadra and both subhadra and draupdi unite

https://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m01/m01224.htm

Originally posted by: CaptainSpark

Btw @all who said there was no law, out of topic question...

https://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m01/m01215.htm

Vaisampayana continued, 'The illustrious Pandavas, thus addressed by the great Rishi Narada, consulting with one another, established a rule amongst themselves in the presence of the celestial Rishi himself endued with immeasurable energy. And the rule they made was that when one of them would be sitting with Draupadi, any of the other four who would see that one thus must retire into the forest for twelve years, passing his days as a Brahmacharin. After the virtuous Pandavas had established that rule amongst themselves, the great Muni Narada, gratified with them, went to the place he wished. Thus, O Janamejaya, did the Pandavas urged by Narada, established a rule amongst themselves in regard to their common wife. And it was for this, O Bharata, that no dispute ever arose between them.'"

Just a question, if this was the "rule", then wasn't YUDHISHTHIR supposed to be exiled if HE saw ARJUN trying to use his "male weapon" On Drau considering there was no one year rule among Pandavas of drau being wife to only one

I don't think anyone said there was no rule, rather no one year rule was discussed

Coming to your point, the place this happened could not be the Armoury if we consider the "weapon" to be that one. It probably then was Draupadi's chamber, where YuDrau were having their time when Arjun entered exposing his weapon

I think he had no other wife till then hence to satisfy his requirements Draupadi was the only source. Hence getting another wife was necessary which he ensured in the exile so that such situation doesn't reoccur

However if the things we are discussing are even 10% true, the Pandavas were not inseparable brothers like we think. They just remained together, it was very easy for them to break away

Hey vyasa conveniently omitted some reactions, these I would like know given chance, what about urs?

Draupadi thoughts about her division

Arjun silence on division

Karna’s thoughts when got to know the woman whom he called so many names s actually his sister inlaw.

Bheeshma thoughts regarding his oath, i am sure he might have thought at least once what had I done, whom did i let took the power.

Hey vyasa conveniently omitted some reactions, these I would like know given chance, what about urs?

Draupadi thoughts about her division

Arjun silence on division

Karna’s thoughts when got to know the woman whom he called so many names s actually his sister inlaw.

Bheeshma thoughts regarding his oath, i am sure he might have thought at least once what had I done, whom did i let took the power.

upapandavas thoughts regarding their parents especially about their mother insult and their who had done that. I feel for them with no fault of them didn’t agot any parent love and died quite young

Originally posted by: swathi90

Hey I don’t think Draupadi was outrightly jealous type, but she’s human who behaved like any wife does because he was away from her from long time and i feel she was just testing him and s giving him hard time like wife, it’s natural reaction.

Even if prathi was adopted he s still king son doesn’t matter who’s mother Draupadi r other queen, he should have been heir, but it’s abhi (son o third prince)the only reason i can come up with s he s empress husbands son and first born and all loved him didn’t mind making him heir, it’s only possible if arjun s empress husband, otherwise it would be prathi Draupadi r another queen son he s still king son. Who has more rights on throne than 3 prince son.

These foreign invaders I don’t think had such an intelligent brain to change whole story, because this s not our history but ithihaas, pancham ved, I don’t think they can made changes to such an extent which can change whole story, down years yes stories got changed and so much added, but one cannot change whole story, especially mahabharat this s such a tricky even we can’t able to understand still, and I don’t think they can add anything just like that especially polyandry, because polyandry s important to whole story and plays very important role to whole story and s conncted to all characters, they might influence thoughts but can’t change whole story, because basically polyandry was discussed in whole epic, the main reason y I can’t ignore s her interactions with arjun and bheem which s far from any bhabhi and devar. Even after so many invaders and rulers i think we pretty well saved our legacy, ya we lost treasures and knowledge but never legacy.

any we don’t even need foreign invaders for changed oour own arrogant men had done that job pretty well to justify karna. So these egoistic men r more than enough.

Loved your analysis!

Originally posted by: swathi90

Hey vyasa conveniently omitted some reactions, these I would like know given chance, what about urs?

Draupadi thoughts about her division ok with it because polyandry was not so uncommon as depicted in popular culture

Arjun silence on division arjuna already knew about it vyasa has already narrated drapaudi s previous birth story to pandavas before they went for Swamyvaar so whatever happened in potter house arjuna was already aware of it

Karna’s thoughts when got to know the woman whom he called so many names s actually his sister inlaw.

Bheeshma thoughts regarding his oath, i am sure he might have thought at least once what had I done, whom did i let took the power.

Originally posted by: CaptainSpark

Thank you!!

This is also the reason I feel she seems more attached to Arjun. Any human being will feel upset, miss someone or yearn more for the man who is not with her at all times.

Also what's wrong with her preferring Arjun over others? This is not because of hitting the fish's eye. It's a normal human emotion. Bheem loved Panchali much more than he loved Hidimba. 🤷‍♀

I guess circumstances were different, It is entirely possible that she preferred him, she didn't get a chance to miss anyone else or test anyone else, I am sure it happened but not like Draupadi couldn't eat without Arjun, The word 'Lamenting' is not correct, but why wouldn't she miss him? He was her husband after all

Originally posted by: Poorabhforever

Arjuna s attraction to subdhara bis describe because they were janemya s great grandparents so story is tilted more towards arjun but other characters are equally important as arjuna so ofcourse they will be mentioned and given there due. Karna is important why will vyasa not mention him ??

But janemya asks about how did pandavas and panchal live without arjuna in exile and then vyasa describes about panchali missing arjuna same is true for subdhara haran and her coming to ip janemya would obviously want to know a bit about his grandparents first met and marriage. Had the succession story changed a bit than none of these would have been highlighted so much.

What I mean is, if Vaishampayana's intention was to glorify Arjun and put attention on him (as you said), then he would concentrate on Arjun-Subhadra and their interactions. It only shows he was neutral in this case because he only shows what is important to story- Draupadi is important, not Subhadra. Hence her relationship with the rest is described, as someone pointed out her marriage was a turning point.

Whether Arjun loved Subhadra or Draupadi more is something that cannot be equated as we hardly know anything about Arjun with his other wives. However, Draupadi is an important character whose relationship with Pandavas is important for the story. YBANS and other wives is not important. So, we maybe able to understand whom Drau preferred among the five. It's difficult to say the same for Arjun, but we can say Arjun had strong feelings for her (several evidences are there).

Originally posted by: CaptainSpark

Btw @all who said there was no law, out of topic question...

https://www.sacred-texts.com/hin/m01/m01215.htm

Vaisampayana continued, 'The illustrious Pandavas, thus addressed by the great Rishi Narada, consulting with one another, established a rule amongst themselves in the presence of the celestial Rishi himself endued with immeasurable energy. And the rule they made was that when one of them would be sitting with Draupadi, any of the other four who would see that one thus must retire into the forest for twelve years, passing his days as a Brahmacharin. After the virtuous Pandavas had established that rule amongst themselves, the great Muni Narada, gratified with them, went to the place he wished. Thus, O Janamejaya, did the Pandavas urged by Narada, established a rule amongst themselves in regard to their common wife. And it was for this, O Bharata, that no dispute ever arose between them.'"

Just a question, if this was the "rule", then wasn't YUDHISHTHIR supposed to be exiled if HE saw ARJUN trying to use his "male weapon" On Drau considering there was no one year rule among Pandavas of drau being wife to only one

The rule was definitely there don’t know what sort of but arrangement was there especially to avoid confusion regarding paternity.

i think they were there in weapons room I don’t y they went there but arjun made a move in time he should not( not his turn that time probably), so to set an example he was exiled , inthonk he already tasted marital bliss because I panchal rule was not there it was added later, maybe he couldn’t control, got exiled for this, this s just human reaction as he won her. And might want to be with her more, ulupi it’s mostly like one night stand, and s naga kanya, he didn’t accept her fully untill last, because he didn’t like that she kidnapped him, and chitra according manipura rule she has to stay there and rise future heir, this s her father condition, with subhadra the problem s solved.