Unluckiest Character in Mahabharat? - Page 8

Originally posted by: CaptainSpark

And attempt to murder lands you capital punishment or something. Imagine if these people would be punished on today's terms. 🤣

Well... Eklavya and Karna support hinges a lot around caste which is a today thing, so why not apply same standard across the board 😆? Judge the Kaurava side by today's standard also.

Eklavya got a light punishment IMO. 😆

His act equals the theft of military secrets by an enemy nation's spy.

I am confused now, did Eklavya learnt the things taught by Drona to his students or did he just take Drona as his teacher and learned the stuff by his own....

Secondly if he learned by hiding why did he expose himself

Originally posted by: CaptainSpark

I have always said this, we have to judge something on the basis of the time its set in. People judge MB on the basis of today's values, which is not fair. Can we judge what we do today based on those days? The way people were is due to the society back then. That's why we see Drona being strict about whom they're teaching, that's why Arjun never protests when Yudhishthir says Draupadi will be married to all five and so on.

Also, Karna's caste is not a lower caste to begin with. It is only not royal in nature ie he wasn't known as a PRINCE. Yet he had loving parents, connections in the royal family ie Duryodhan, Dushashan etc. I don't see where discrimination is coming from. 😆

The problem is people want to "relate" to the characters of these epics, so they try to draw parallels with today's time period, which would be okay as long as they're able to differentiate and understand the differences then and now. Once people start judging the characters based on today's mindset, that's where everything becomes skewed.

You're right. Karna was NOT unfortunate. The only thing he didn't have going for him was, he wasn't a royal prince. In that case, all the commoners in Hastinapur were unfortunate. 😆 Otherwise he had a very lucky life.

Originally posted by: FlauntPessimism

I am confused now, did Eklavya learnt the things taught by Drona to his students or did he just take Drona as his teacher and learned the stuff by his own....

Secondly if he learned by hiding why did he expose himself

He spied on Drona as he taught other students and learned everything. When Arjuna caught him and told Drona, that's when Drona punished him.

He didn't expose himself purposefully. He was abusing a dog by shooting several arrows into his mouth (in an attempt to boast his skills). Arjuna caught him, asked who his Guru was, and Ekalavya said Drona.

Also, does MB text say Ekalavya was from the Nishada tribe? I remember reading that he was a prince from the Magadha kingdom. Can somebody post a citation please? From where did the Nishada tribe story come from?

Originally posted by: RamKiSeeta

Also, does MB text say Ekalavya was from the Nishada tribe? I remember reading that he was a prince from the Magadha kingdom. Can somebody post a citation please? From where did the Nishada tribe story come from?

Nishads are tribes which are dependent on water bodies like rowing boats, fishery etc. Although they come under the state government but they have certain autonomy.

He was from the Nishad community in the state of Magadh

Originally posted by: CaptainSpark

Actually I meant unlucky as in someone who always had good intentions but faced misfortune. This guy deserved what he got. 😋😋

I got the joke though 😂😂😂 Virata War too is so funny. 🤣

That way my answer is Draupadi

Originally posted by: RamKiSeeta

The problem is people want to "relate" to the characters of these epics, so they try to draw parallels with today's time period, which would be okay as long as they're able to differentiate and understand the differences then and now. Once people start judging the characters based on today's mindset, that's where everything becomes skewed.

You're right. Karna was NOT unfortunate. The only thing he didn't have going for him was, he wasn't a royal prince. In that case, all the commoners in Hastinapur were unfortunate. 😆 Otherwise he had a very lucky life.

Actually my personal favourite character is Arjun, and that's because I find him very relatable and human. (All of the characters have human traits in them of course, just Arjun seems more relatable though he is a hero). But that does not mean I judge him from today's terms. If we look at some things they did, they're wrong today. But what is important is, why they did it and what intentions they bore.

That's the thesis anti thesis difference between Arjun/Yudhishthir and Karna/Duryodhan. All made mistakes but if we look at the intentions, their reasons and most importantly their characterization, we know why the difference.

Today there's a trend of celebrating Duryodhan, Karna and their likes while picking faults of Pandavas. I am not saying all Pandavs were flawless, but the very fact that we have to cherry pick their flaws and dig for good traits in others prove that this culture of celebrating them is faulty. 😆

Definitely it's Bheeshma Pitamah. God that guy was the unluckiest. Close second is Karna obviously.