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Posted: 5 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: Twilight123

Hey Proteeti, dear can you tell me why Lord Krishna is known as Ranchhor? And why did he leave Mathura?


Sure! Always happy to relive the tales! 😃

So, we saw how Jarasandh was attacking Mathura to avenge Kamsa's death right. So, 17 times he attacked Mathura, and Krishna and Balaram killed every single one of his soldiers and spared only Jarasandh (Dadaji lagte the na unke, and also, Leaving him for Bheema).

It is said, that all the soldiers were reincarnations of various asuras and Krishna basically maneuvered the entire system so he did not have to go looking for these hidden asuras (like Rama did), and all of them came to HIM to die. In fighting the 17 battles, all asuras employed by Jarasandha were killed and the 18th time he brought human soldiers.

Not wanting to hurt them, Krishna took Balarama and fled the battlefield (mind you, he made sure the army followed) and Jarasandh followed. Finally, Krishna and Balaram climbed atop a hill, and Jarasandh, thinking the bros were trapped, set fire to the entire hill. Unknown to him, Krishna and Balaram had jumped off the hill, right into the ocean and swam to Dwaraka. Wish I were there to see the spectacle!☺️

In the same day/night the Yadava elders had migrated the entire lot to Dwarka, as per Krishna's instructions. Kanha knew Jarasandh would continue to attack, and encouraged by him, soon other kingdoms like Chedi and Vidarbha would also try sieges, and Krishna would then be constantly be distracted from his actual goal (making Mahabharat). They wouldn't be able to defeat Mathura ever (because Krishna come on 🤓) but they sure would be an irritating presence over their shoulders. Matuhra was also located close the river bed, and had little to no territorial protection; as compared, Dwarka was way safer with the natural moat of the Arabic Sea as well as the long spread Rajasthan ka desert and Gujarat ke forests. Also, Raivatak mountain, an excellent strategic point. And a concept that we also saw in Thor: Ragnarok, Asgard is where it's people are. So, Mathura was where the Yadavs were. He simply chose the safety of his people over a piece of land.

Now, after they moved to Dwarka, Jarasandh followed with his 18th army and created a blockage. Meanwhile, a new menace, a demon called Kalyavana also joined forces with Jarasandh. (Kalyavana literally means the Dark Foreigner: descriptions se banda Greek/Italian origin ka lagta hai)

Understanding ke the Yadava army could not match up to the combined force of Jarasandha and Kalyavana, Krishna Dwarka-quarantined the lot of them, and came out himself, unarmed and on foot.

Since he was unarmed, owing to battle codes, Jarasandh couldn't attack him, and Krishna then went and challenged Kalyavana to a one-on-one duel. The moment Kalyavana agreed Krishna turned his back and started to run away. Kalyavana was not annoyed and began chasing him, but couldn't catch him.


Nath bhagaavat khel khilaavat,

Veer akulaavat Yudhha karan ko.

Yun Rann chhod ke bhaagan pe

Rannchhod ka naam mila bhagvan ko.

Jogi jati nit dhyaan lagaayeke

Paa na sake inn Sri-charanan ko,

Jo nar hoye toh haath lage,

Vash kaise karein koi Narayan ko?!

Kalyavan ka hai Kaal jahan

Prabhu le ke chalein waha Kalyavan ko! (RS' Shri Krishna)


After bhaaging bhagaoying a lot, Krishna led him inside a dark cave. An Treta yug waale King called Muchakunda lived/slept in this cave (believed to be located in Girnar, Gujarat). He had assisted Indra during the Deva-Asura battles and in return asked for a boon ke nobody should disturb his sleep (if he were disturbed the one disturbing him would be burnt to ashes).

Inside the cave, Krishna quietly had covered the sleeping King with his own anga-vastra. Seeing that vastra, Kalyavan thought Krishna had got tired and fell asleep inside the dead end cave (who's the idiot here? 🤣) and woke up the King, and therefore got burnt to ashes. And Krishna, pradaan-ed moksha to the King. Phew! 🤪

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Posted: 5 years ago
#12

Originally posted by: proteeti


Inside the cave, Krishna quietly had covered the sleeping King with his own anga-vastra. Seeing that vastra, Kalyavan thought Krishna had got tired and fell asleep inside the dead end cave (who's the idiot here? 🤣) and woke up the King, and therefore got burnt to ashes. And Krishna, pradaan-ed moksha to the King. Phew! 🤪

Hehehe this is so funny😆

OMG such a deep concept thank you so much sis for clearing my concept😊

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Posted: 5 years ago
#13

Always a pleasure sis!

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Posted: 5 years ago
#14

Originally posted by: proteeti


Sure! Always happy to relive the tales! 😃

So, we saw how Jarasandh was attacking Mathura to avenge Kamsa's death right. So, 17 times he attacked Mathura, and Krishna and Balaram killed every single one of his soldiers and spared only Jarasandh (Dadaji lagte the na unke, and also, Leaving him for Bheema).

It is said, that all the soldiers were reincarnations of various asuras and Krishna basically maneuvered the entire system so he did not have to go looking for these hidden asuras (like Rama did), and all of them came to HIM to die. In fighting the 17 battles, all asuras employed by Jarasandha were killed and the 18th time he brought human soldiers.

Not wanting to hurt them, Krishna took Balarama and fled the battlefield (mind you, he made sure the army followed) and Jarasandh followed. Finally, Krishna and Balaram climbed atop a hill, and Jarasandh, thinking the bros were trapped, set fire to the entire hill. Unknown to him, Krishna and Balaram had jumped off the hill, right into the ocean and swam to Dwaraka. Wish I were there to see the spectacle!☺️

In the same day/night the Yadava elders had migrated the entire lot to Dwarka, as per Krishna's instructions. Kanha knew Jarasandh would continue to attack, and encouraged by him, soon other kingdoms like Chedi and Vidarbha would also try sieges, and Krishna would then be constantly be distracted from his actual goal (making Mahabharat). They wouldn't be able to defeat Mathura ever (because Krishna come on 🤓) but they sure would be an irritating presence over their shoulders. Matuhra was also located close the river bed, and had little to no territorial protection; as compared, Dwarka was way safer with the natural moat of the Arabic Sea as well as the long spread Rajasthan ka desert and Gujarat ke forests. Also, Raivatak mountain, an excellent strategic point. And a concept that we also saw in Thor: Ragnarok, Asgard is where it's people are. So, Mathura was where the Yadavs were. He simply chose the safety of his people over a piece of land.

Now, after they moved to Dwarka, Jarasandh followed with his 18th army and created a blockage. Meanwhile, a new menace, a demon called Kalyavana also joined forces with Jarasandh. (Kalyavana literally means the Dark Foreigner: descriptions se banda Greek/Italian origin ka lagta hai)

Understanding ke the Yadava army could not match up to the combined force of Jarasandha and Kalyavana, Krishna Dwarka-quarantined the lot of them, and came out himself, unarmed and on foot.

Since he was unarmed, owing to battle codes, Jarasandh couldn't attack him, and Krishna then went and challenged Kalyavana to a one-on-one duel. The moment Kalyavana agreed Krishna turned his back and started to run away. Kalyavana was not annoyed and began chasing him, but couldn't catch him.


Nath bhagaavat khel khilaavat,

Veer akulaavat Yudhha karan ko.

Yun Rann chhod ke bhaagan pe

Rannchhod ka naam mila bhagvan ko.

Jogi jati nit dhyaan lagaayeke

Paa na sake inn Sri-charanan ko,

Jo nar hoye toh haath lage,

Vash kaise karein koi Narayan ko?!

Kalyavan ka hai Kaal jahan

Prabhu le ke chalein waha Kalyavan ko! (RS' Shri Krishna)


After bhaaging bhagaoying a lot, Krishna led him inside a dark cave. An Treta yug waale King called Muchakunda lived/slept in this cave (believed to be located in Girnar, Gujarat). He had assisted Indra during the Deva-Asura battles and in return asked for a boon ke nobody should disturb his sleep (if he were disturbed the one disturbing him would be burnt to ashes).

Inside the cave, Krishna quietly had covered the sleeping King with his own anga-vastra. Seeing that vastra, Kalyavan thought Krishna had got tired and fell asleep inside the dead end cave (who's the idiot here? 🤣) and woke up the King, and therefore got burnt to ashes. And Krishna, pradaan-ed moksha to the King. Phew! 🤪


Respect.

You are an expert on Mahabharat.

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Posted: 5 years ago
#15

Originally posted by: proteeti


He could have helped but Krishna was also in the process of consolidating his position in Mathura/Dwarka at that time, not everybody trusted his intellect and he was still almost a stranger to the Pandavas.

Also it took a few more years for his wisdom to become famous. We saw yesterday ke episode mein only na, everybody thought he was a coward, and Kunti I believe did not know him that well to trust him despite the apparent blunder of deserting Mathura. 😳


Actually, when the Pandavas were in Varnavarta, Krishna was on his way to see them, when Satyabhama, his new bride, came to him w/ the news that her father Satyajit had been murdered for the Swayamtaka gem. Which is what got Krishna back to Dwarka to hunt down Satadhandva.


After that was over, then came his campaign against Narakasura to recover the riches of the devas. After he was done w/ that and resettled his 16,100 new wives, he went to Dwarka for Draupadi's swayamvara

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Posted: 5 years ago
#16

Originally posted by: .Vrish.


Actually, when the Pandavas were in Varnavarta, Krishna was on his way to see them, when Satyabhama, his new bride, came to him w/ the news that her father Satyajit had been murdered for the Swayamtaka gem. Which is what got Krishna back to Dwarka to hunt down Satadhandva.


After that was over, then came his campaign against Narakasura to recover the riches of the devas. After he was done w/ that and resettled his 16,100 new wives, he went to Dwarka for Draupadi's swayamvara


Was he going to meet Ps or offer condolences to Dhrity after the fire? I don't remember this part.

Also, funny story, I was thinking of this part, like just this morning only, and then I saw your post! 😆

I would love to have a parallel timeline drawn for MB and Krishna-leela, I always get confused which one happened and when. 😕

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Posted: 5 years ago
#17

In br chopra they mostly focus was on pandav. Kaurav kunti bhishm dhrityrastra gandhari shakuni

Br chopra main main aim to show politics related between pandav and kaurav


On Krishna life they did not much focus . That is why most part of Krishna life in br chopra are missing . They show only basic story about Lord Krishna


They show Krishna when it is related to pandav only

And that is why there is no episode where sudama come to meet Krishna in dwariika and Krishna eat two times flattened rice ( chiwda) because br chopra did not want to focus on Krishna life totally

Edited by surabhi01 - 5 years ago

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