Sita whitewashed by DD in deer scene - Page 4

It’s because of the difference in yuga there is difference in incarnations.

Both are incarnations of Par Brahm. Lord Vishnu is a manifestation. He’s Kaal, so he takes various forms. Even Gautam Buddha is Par Brahm.

I have not read any such verse in Valmiki Ramayan about Sita asking deer skin for mattress!

First they had given up luxury life , so there is no space for getting mattress! Second it was not Sita , it was a maya sita created by agni & indra bcoz agni dev took sita & left her in Kailash with Shiv & parvati ! When Agni pariksha took place in lanka , maya sita vanished & original Sita was brought back! Due to this help, Agni & Indra were blessed , born as Luv & Kush!

And regarding yugs, we are in 28th Kali yug of vaivasth manvantra & Ramayan took place in 26th Tretha yug.... In between 9 yugs have passed!

Originally posted by: kb_always_96

I have not read any such verse in Valmiki Ramayan about Sita asking deer skin for mattress!

First they had given up luxury life , so there is no space for getting mattress! Second it was not Sita , it was a maya sita created by agni & indra bcoz agni dev took sita & left her in Kailash with Shiv & parvati ! When Agni pariksha took place in lanka , maya sita vanished & original Sita was brought back! Due to this help, Agni & Indra were blessed , born as Luv & Kush!

And regarding yugs, we are in 28th Kali yug of vaivasth manvantra & Ramayan took place in 26th Tretha yug.... In between 9 yugs have passed!

To fir pehle Valmiki ka lines padho then talk. So people who read Valmiki from decades are fools like our father's and forefathers. Mant versions came in kalyug sher alterations have been made. Maya Sita? Is it any fantasy show? Valmiki one was original written lakhs of years ago ago. So why will we believe a kalyug written fantasy? Kuch saal baad main bhi ramayan ka new version likh sakti hu where Sita saves herself from Ravan by doing karate😆. Par uski naubat hi nahi aayegi because instead of Ram accepting vanvaas he will call Kaikeyi as sauteli and kick her only in vanvaas along with Manthra😆. Then people will believe my version over Valmiki. Right?

I fully agree with kb

Actually when we don't read full scripture we find fault in God that how can goD do this. By reading half thing we start blaming God

For eg there was a vishnu katha that Lord vishnu having physical relationship with vrinda wife of jalandhar and Lord vishnu was blame how can Lord vishnu do such thing when he is God

But truth is that when we read full reason then it was necessary for Lord vishnu to do this because

Vrinda was very devoted to her husband jalandhar and because of her fully devotion to husband, jalandhar can't be killed

So Lord vishnu have little bit physical relationship with vrinda so that her devotion to her husband break and jalandhar can be killed

So all God katha leela is very vast and deep . We cannot make conclusions about God act by just reading one or two parts of scripture

Every leela of God and goddess has some valid reason to do some act and it leela of God not always connect to present incident but also connect to previous yug and previous birth

From outer side some time God may look wrong but if read in detail and read in depth that God action was always welfare for World

And more over God act cannot be look like normal human being act

And coming to ram charitra manas it is very much true as well as like valmiki ramayan

If ram charitra manas is false and if tulsi das is written false ram charitra manas then why tulsi das biography include in course of school syllabus . When we read any about saint heroes in school book that means their work are true and verified

And in every home tulsi das ram charitra manas kept in pooja ram with devotion and in every house and in every temple ram charitra manas sang with devotion and faith and even tulsi das other work like hanuman chalisa, sankat mochan sang with devotion and faith

I have never from anybody that ram charitra manas is false.

And if ram charitra manas is written in kaliyug that doesn't not mean ram charitra is false

Even surdas , kabir has written doha meera bai ( when she was given poison but nothing happen to her and she was save by grace of Lord kishna) these all are born in kaliyug and their great work in kaliyug that means surdas work , kabir work meera bai work are also false just because it is written in kaliyug ??

And when kaliyug was started it doesn't not started showing bad effect immediately

It was said when kaliyug age is of child then it will not show much bad effect on people that is why when kabir guru nanak, meera bai tulsi das was born at that time kaliyug was of child age so it has very minimum bad effect on people at that time that is why people like meera bai, kabir, giraffe nanak tulsi da were honest at that and have great virtue at that time

But it was said as kaliyug age grow there will more sins and more diseases

Even chaitnya maha Prabhu was incarnation of Lord Krishna and appear at kaliyug

He appear and gave mantra and singing mantra hare ram hare Krishna ram ram hare hare and hare Krishna hare ram Krishna Krishna hare to decrease bad effect of kaliyug

Now this mantra was first sung by chaitnya maha Prabhu that too in kaliyug but today also this mantra is recited with full devotion and full faith

It is not necessary every work written in kaliyug has be false

Tulsi das mention about shiv parvati vivah in ram charitra manas so shiv parvati vivah is also false.? Is it also tulsi das imaginary. ?I

Tulsi das has also mention name of valmiki in ram charitra manas and gave respect to valmiki

If we read ram charitra manas properly then its each and every line are true

Ram charitra manas is universally accepted holy book

Ram charitra manas was retelling of valmiki ramayan that too in easy language

If ram charitra manas is false then tulsi das would have not send ram to forest he have not shown hardship face by Lord ram . Phir to tulsi das khuch bhi likh sakte they if he want to write false ramayan but tulsi did not do such thing he has gave exactly incident what happened in Lord ram real life

I don't think anyone is saying RCM is false. It is like every other version of Ramayana that came after Valmiki - Adhyatma, Ananda, Kambha, Adbhuta, etc. So many colloquial versions came out over the years, and they're all "retellings" of Valmiki but with changes here and there, based on the era they were written in. For example, Kambha Ramayana has Ravan abducting Sita by removing the ground on which she stood, because Kambha claimed he could not "touch" Sita as she was pure, whereas in Valmiki, Ravan carried the actual Sita herself. In RCM and Adhyatma, there is a "maya Sita" because they claim the real Sita could not have gotten kidnapped, whereas in Valmiki it is the real Sita. Valmiki had no compunction with showing events as they happened, whereas latter authors did cater to the people's sensibilities and added an extra dose of "morality" which did not exist in the treta yuga. Treta yuga was more free and accepting in many ways, but not many people know or accept that now.

So no version of Ramayana is exactly "false" because the overall story is generally same, but we should simply remember that retellings do have a way of being changed based on the morality and beliefs of a certain era/generation.

Originally posted by: angel_juhi04

To fir pehle Valmiki ka lines padho then talk. So people who read Valmiki from decades are fools like our father's and forefathers. Mant versions came in kalyug sher alterations have been made. Maya Sita? Is it any fantasy show? Valmiki one was original written lakhs of years ago ago. So why will we believe a kalyug written fantasy? Kuch saal baad main bhi ramayan ka new version likh sakti hu where Sita saves herself from Ravan by doing karate😆. Par uski naubat hi nahi aayegi because instead of Ram accepting vanvaas he will call Kaikeyi as sauteli and kick her only in vanvaas along with Manthra😆. Then people will believe my version over Valmiki. Right?

For your information, i have read it! You cannot just read Valmiki Ramayan alone bcoz some information are present in Vishnu puran & Padma puran too! You will not find all information in Valmiki Ramayan alone! You need to see all purans, only then will get a clear view! And in sanskrit a single word has several meanings, if one goes wrong then entire meaning gets changed! One can confirm the correct meaning only by verifing these purans!

Originally posted by: kb_always_96

For your information, i have read it! You cannot just read Valmiki Ramayan alone bcoz some information are present in Vishnu puran & Padma puran too! You will not find all information in Valmiki Ramayan alone! You need to see all purans, only then will get a clear view! And in sanskrit a single word has several meanings, if one goes wrong then entire meaning gets changed! One can confirm the correct meaning only by verifing these purans!

Except that Vishnu puran specifically skips the Rama and Krishna avatars, so there's nothing to read there that contradicts Valmiki (for Rama) or Vyasa (for Krishna). It's perfectly legit for anyone to go w/ a Valmiki-only approach: just b'cos someone rejects the versions of RCM, Kamban, Krittivas, et al doesn't mean that the person has an incomplete understanding of the epic

https://valmikiramayan.net

This link of valmiki ramayan tell that sita told ram that we will take . Golden deer to ayodhya and play with it and seeta told if it is not catch alive then we we will sit on golden skin mattress but in beginning it is clearly told that there are some interject version means some versions abruptly introduced in valmiki ramayan and some versions are contradicting in valmiki ramayan

It is providing all versions of valmiki ramayan according to translation from different transalator

And also told in valmiki ramayan that is

From kand 2nd to 6 the kand Lord ram is portray at ideal hero

But only in baal kand and uttara kand Lord ram portray as incarnation of Lord vishnu

So I think seeta asking for golden skin mattress can be interjected verse and not only this there are other verses can be interjected verse in valmiki ramayan

Jis transalator ko jaisa laga usne apne hisaab se valmiki ramayan ko transalate kiya aur edit kiya

However in ram charitra manas nothing is extra added and nothing is deleted it has always same versees

Originally posted by: .Vrish.

Except that Vishnu puran specifically skips the Rama and Krishna avatars, so there's nothing to read there that contradicts Valmiki (for Rama) or Vyasa (for Krishna). It's perfectly legit for anyone to go w/ a Valmiki-only approach: just b'cos someone rejects the versions of RCM, Kamban, Krittivas, et al doesn't mean that the person has an incomplete understanding of the epic

I didn't mention anything about RCM or kamba ramayan or any! And also i didn't say anything about incomplete understanding! And also i didn't say anything about contradicting statement about Valmiki Ramayan & puran! I said one can get clear view and information left in Valmiki Ramayan in other purans!

And to be more even clear Valmiki Ramayan is much of a condensed version! The main one is moola Ramayan given by Lord hayagreeva(vishnu's avtar) to Lord Brahma consisting of one crore verses! He gave a compact version to Sage Narada & who inturn preached Valmiki! And he reduced and formed approx 24,000 slokas! There is many left in between which has been given by sages in purans here and there!