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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: Samanalyse

@Aqua: At this point, the details of the Parul-Meenu-Mehul situation come down to speculation, based on the few definite pieces of information that we have. Your reading is totally plausible, but it's equally possible that it went down exactly as Meenu has presented it -- Mehul married Meenu for the money, ended up in Rajgarh when he was on the run after she found out, and married a poor, young, beautiful Parul there and impregnated her. Then his scams in Rajgarh get found out (the document Mishti found at the police station there) and he disappears again without a trace, leaving a pregnant Parul behind. I guess they are keeping it ambiguous on purpose, so they can use that for the plot when convenient.


As far as I remember, there hasn't been any concrete explanation for why Parul knew to look for him in Rajkot, or how she found out about Meenu. The earliest flashback we have is of Meenu telling Nanu and Parul that she will take care of everything and not to worry. We have always sort of disagreed on the extent of Meenu's chalaaki taking Parul in so I won't dwell on that too much, but I am still not convinced that it would have made a significant difference if Parul was the legal wife. The way I see it, those labels only matter if Mehul was actually in the picture -- Meenu rendered him moot.


And as we have seen in the show, we don't need that twist to shift the power dynamic -- it's already happening because of Kunal and Abir knowing the truth. I was actually thinking -- what if we read Meenu not messing with Kuhu and Kunal as her holding up her end of the deal she made with Parul on their wedding day? She only started messing with them when Parul defied her and messed with her plans for separating Mishti and Abir. I am not saying Parul is wrong to take a stand, but super intrigued by how it imbalances their relationship. I am waiting for the echo in Kunal and Abir's relationship -- what happens when Kunal decides he's going to stop silently doing all the work that allows Abir to be Abir?


The generosity that Meenu showed in the past is what keeps her character interesting and prevents her from becoming a totally flat villain, so I wouldn't want to lose that with a twist that she lied then too, if that makes sense?


P.S. I am definitely intrigued by the progress of your crush. 😈 Please keep us updated.

@Bold-1: When did this happen?? I don't remember this story being told at all. Have I missed these episodes?? The part with Parul being the first wife is my understanding from the episodes when Mishti goes to Rajgarh and finds out Parul being Kunal's birth mother.

About the plot being ambiguous, it definitely seems intentional because Mehul hinted that he will come back 2-3times so the writers seem to have a plan there.


@bold-2: There is. Parul's sister mentions about Mehul getting a job in Rajkot. My guess is that Parul found out about the employer from the scam he did in the RV business and that's how she found Meenu.


@bold-3: I guess you're right about this. She actually made him irrelevant. I have a point on this though. The scenes where Meenu keeps telling Parul to not talk to Mehul really stuck out for me. She did it multiple times and I feel she fears some information coming out. I haven't seen those scenes since they aired but I remember them for some reason.


@bold-4: It definitely is happening. What I mean by the twist is that Parul gets empowered and it would then become a little harder to gain control over her. That's the shift I was talking about but considering Parul's nature, I don't think it will cause too much imbalance so I agree with you on this.


@bold-5: I need more context. Which scene are you talking about here??


@bold-6: Oh, it definitely makes sense. In my opinion, I think it was both: the generosity as well as the planning plotting. I guess that's what makes Meenu interesting for me. She has all these sides but her plotting brain seems to always be active. I think I mentioned it in this post .


P.S. I'll do that🙈

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: Samanalyse


I've said it before and I'll keep saying it: I would watch the heck out of a show with Meenu as protagonist! What we know of her story reminds me a lot of the Shabana Azmi film, Godmother, which I highly recommend if you haven't seen it. It's that well-worn story of a woman trying to make it in a man's world, struggling to survive and succeeding, only to find that she's become everything she had to fight against. It's a tragic arc with so much potential, not to mention how amazing it would be to watch these two women manage the family and co-parent their two boys, while showing implicit faith in each other (to catch glimpses of this, the early episodes of the Mehul arc are worth a revisit).


I can see why Parul would set store by the old ideas of purity and chastity, and even if the two women know they didn't do anything wrong, society is there to cast aspersions on them and their children. I believe that Meenu's goal in all this was to erase this ignominy and restore her family to respectability in one generation. I think that is also why she wanted uncomplicated bahus with straightforward families -- she doesn't really want to carry the legacy of dysfunctionality/non-normativity forward. Kuhu went out of her way and succeeded in showing Meenu that she was actually an ally in this mission; she had a great example in Varsha who seamlessly integrated a non-normative relationship into a very normative family.


Meenu already worries about Abir because he wants to embrace their family's and his own eccentricity and shout it from the rooftops, while she keeps trying to reign him in to create and conserve this more safe, accepted and conventional family. His choice of Mishti as a partner, both because of her background and her rogue personality take Abir even further away from the vision of family that Meenu has strived for. That's what makes her so anti-Mishti.

This is so interesting!!! I know you've already mentioned most of these points before but it's nice to be reminded that why Meenu strives so hard to reign Abir in.

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: PureDrivenSnow

Made it yesterday. Immediately after I exported the video I felt dissatisfied. The song doesn't really go but itni mehnat karne me baad I couldn't not finish and post it. So feel free to critique.


https://www.instagram.com/p/B-aoO1AJbry/?igshid=1salhb0boldla

I completely agree with Sam and Meera. The song gives the scene a very different vibe and puts the focus on them.

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Posted: 5 years ago

What do you guys think of this scene?? It was after he decided to betray Kuhu so why did he look so happy and mesmerized for this small moment.

https://www.instagram.com/p/B-cT5u-BA6h/?igshid=fh6hdeftfhj6

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Posted: 5 years ago

@sam, meera, aqua: I'm so so glad you both liked it!

When I revisited the scene, and after reading some analyses in this AT, I had a different perspective of it. As much as I wanted a conversation between the two, it was satisfying to see Kuhu get her Kunal after everything she went through. She stopped expecting anything from her marriage but somewhere she was still hopeful, right until the last minute.


The idea to use this song felt right but for some reason I'm not to keen on the outcome.

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: Samanalyse

And as we have seen in the show, we don't need that twist to shift the power dynamic -- it's already happening because of Kunal and Abir knowing the truth. I was actually thinking -- what if we read Meenu not messing with Kuhu and Kunal as her holding up her end of the deal she made with Parul on their wedding day? She only started messing with them when Parul defied her and messed with her plans for separating Mishti and Abir. I am not saying Parul is wrong to take a stand, but super intrigued by how it imbalances their relationship. I am waiting for the echo in Kunal and Abir's relationship -- what happens when Kunal decides he's going to stop silently doing all the work that allows Abir to be Abir?


The generosity that Meenu showed in the past is what keeps her character interesting and prevents her from becoming a totally flat villain, so I wouldn't want to lose that with a twist that she lied then too, if that makes sense?


@bold:excellent observation, that justifies things from meenu's pov, but keeps her status as villian intact because most would have missed it

I came across one more theory, what if abir is not biologically a rajvansh & is infact an adopted son of meenu. In that case meenu's fears & over-protectiveness for abir looks justified


@Snow: lovely vm dear, these slow motion edits that you make are so convenient, helps to see everything in detail & clearly🤪(without having to press pause each frame☺️)


@aqua: on the 'Kunal checking out Kuhu scene', she was looking very beautiful that day & almost everyone complimented her, so Kunal too was blown away & I would say it was one of those moments when he lost his usual act of pretending

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: aquaHP

@Bold-1: When did this happen?? I don't remember this story being told at all. Have I missed these episodes?? The part with Parul being the first wife is my understanding from the episodes when Mishti goes to Rajgarh and finds out Parul being Kunal's birth mother.

About the plot being ambiguous, it definitely seems intentional because Mehul hinted that he will come back 2-3times so the writers seem to have a plan there.


@bold-2: There is. Parul's sister mentions about Mehul getting a job in Rajkot. My guess is that Parul found out about the employer from the scam he did in the RV business and that's how she found Meenu.


@bold-3: I guess you're right about this. She actually made him irrelevant. I have a point on this though. The scenes where Meenu keeps telling Parul to not talk to Mehul really stuck out for me. She did it multiple times and I feel she fears some information coming out. I haven't seen those scenes since they aired but I remember them for some reason.


@bold-4: It definitely is happening. What I mean by the twist is that Parul gets empowered and it would then become a little harder to gain control over her. That's the shift I was talking about but considering Parul's nature, I don't think it will cause too much imbalance so I agree with you on this.


@bold-5: I need more context. Which scene are you talking about here??


@bold-6: Oh, it definitely makes sense. In my opinion, I think it was both: the generosity as well as the planning plotting. I guess that's what makes Meenu interesting for me. She has all these sides but her plotting brain seems to always be active. I think I mentioned it in this post .


P.S. I'll do that🙈


1. Well, that's the face value story we get no? That Mehul was married to Meenu first but then cheated her by marrying Parul. This is supported by Abir's age vs. Kunal's. It seems unlikely that Mehul was married to Parul for so long but she never got pregnant before Kunal.


2. Ah okay, I had forgotten the mention of a job in Rajkot, but he could have told her this even after he had already cheated Meenu. I guess my point is that the timeline is super ambiguous and could go either way at this point.


3. I just read those scenes as Meenu not wanting Parul to talk to Mehul so he wouldn't have the opportunity to drive a wedge between them. Parul is a lot more vulnerable and emotional than Meenu so she probably worried about how Mehul would try and manipulate her against Meenu, like he did both Abir and Kunal.


5. I am talking about the fact that Meenu forced Kunal to go through with the marriage to Kuhu for the sole reason that Parul threatened to reveal that she was Kunal's birth mother if she didn't. And I am wondering if that is part of the reason Meenu never messed with Kuku even after their wedding, despite the fact that she almost lost her relationship with Kunal as a result.


Basically, both Meenu and Parul used the secret to get what they wanted for their sons, but while Meenu kept up her end of the agreement when it came to Kunal and Kuhu, Parul ultimately betrayed Meenu when it came to Abir and Mishti, which now made Kunal and Kuhu, and even Parul herself, fair game in Meenu's eyes.


6. Exactly! She needs both sides to be a fully rounded character, and I would hate to see them compromise on that complexity to make her evil for evil's sake.

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: peacenfun


@aqua: on the 'Kunal checking out Kuhu scene', she was looking very beautiful that day & almost everyone complimented her, so Kunal too was blown away & I would say it was one of those moments when he lost his usual act of pretending


It's one of my favourite scenes of theirs!


And ditto! Like we discussed a few days ago, his feelings never went away, they were just on strict lockdown because bhai was the priority. This was one of those moments when his attraction overpowered his control. 😉


I also recommend the scene where they are having coffee after the engagement, talking about Shweta. You can tell that Kunal is really happy when Kuhu's talking about how great it was to see him push Shweta off himself and then his whole mood changes when he gets a message from Meenakshi asking him if he's talked to Kuhu about the next plot. 😔

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: Samanalyse


6. Exactly! She needs both sides to be a fully rounded character, and I would hate to see them compromise on that complexity to make her evil for evil's sake.

I would hate that too, but looks like they have left a lot of things ambiguous in mehul-parul-meenu track, and will decide in future

my only hope is the actor playing meenu, such a strong actor might not agree to unjustified things just for trps sake

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Posted: 5 years ago

Originally posted by: Samanalyse


It's one of my favourite scenes of theirs!


And ditto! Like we discussed a few days ago, his feelings never went away, they were just on strict lockdown because bhai was the priority. This was one of those moments when his attraction overpowered his control. 😉


I also recommend the scene where they are having coffee after the engagement, talking about Shweta. You can tell that Kunal is really happy when Kuhu's talking about how great it was to see him push Shweta off himself and then his whole mood changes when he gets a message from Meenakshi asking him if he's talked to Kuhu about the next plot. 😔

yes, infact even during these engagement episodes, he was only tensed seeing abir around mishti, otherwise for most of the part he looked happy, even during that part when kuhu comes outside & sees kunal with shweta, he immediately gets defensive & starts with his explanations & when kuhu says 'I believe you' he is so relieved & happy(and even surprised to see her faith in him even before he gets to explain the whole thing), even says 'thank you' to kuhu for trusting him before the ring ceremony

I mean usually during his pretentious act he has been shown saying to himself 'bhai ke liye', 'sorry kuhu', 'sab mishti ki wajah se ho raha hai' etc., but during their engagement not even once he was shown if he remembers that all this is fake & and part of their plan🤓

if you notice in all other pre-wedding functions of kuku, this reminder for viewers was explicitly present, but was intentionally missed during engagement by makers😉

Edited by peacenfun - 5 years ago

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