#Friends to #Partners KuKu AT 2 - Page 115

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Originally posted by: nami2811

Hey Sam.. why do you think Kuhu's behavior towards Mishti is justified? I watched the epi in FF 😆

I don't want to say too much about a precap because they can be misleading, but it the more this arc unfolds, the more Kuhu's fears and anger seem totally justified to me. And it's not just about Mishti, though that is a major trigger. In the precap specifically, the way Mishti tries to cut Kuhu out of the conversation, it's like she's saying, jab bade baat karte hain to bacche beech mein nahi bolte. I mean, who wouldn't get frustrated being treated like that by someone your own age?

And she has done this to Kuhu from epiosde 1 (maybe 2?) when she pulled Ketu aside to talk to her, and told Kuhu to stay out of it despite the fact that it was Kuhu who found Ketu and got her to open up about her problems. The thing is, this kind of behaviour was allowed by the bade Maheshwaris -- Mishti was always praised for going off and doing manmani and Kuhu's feelings of betrayal were always dismissed as childish -- but Mishti can't take this for granted in the RV family.

Kuhu has a voice here, one that she earned and it's not so easily ignored. In addition, despite BM's superiority complex, I find the RV household much more meritocratic -- the more work you do towards the family and the more goodwill you earn, the more you are taken seriously in the family. Yes, ultimately, it's Meenu who decides who is worthy but I find her very fair in this matter. The whole conflict between her and Abir comes from the fact that she really, really, really wants to give him this power but she wants him to earn it on her terms first. She's saying, show me that you put this family first, even above your own desires (like I did) and then I will trust you with running it. Abir is yet to inspire this confidence in her. This is precisely why Parul actually has much more of a say than Nidhi (which Jasmeet doesn't quite get because this family structure is so unfamiliar); she simply does more work.

In all this Kuhu cracked the formula to managing Meenu all on her own. Meenu's major fear is change and loss of control and when that fear is stoked she uses her hyper-perceptiveness to play with the people around her until her sense of balance is restored. Kuhu dealt with the first part by showing Meenu over time (there is no single action to demonstrate this) that she has no intention of challenging the existing structure, but rather every intention to bolster it. The perfect example is her business; she could have challenged Meenu and said, I am a woman of today, I deserve to work; you owe it to me after what you did! But instead, she made her work accessible to the whole family and made the change less scary to Meenu. She dealt with the second part by holding her cards very close to her chest. She never made herself visible to Meenu unless she was doing something with/for the family.

By staying under the radar, and blending seamlessly into the family, she made herself invisible as a pawn for Meenu's games. Meenu exploited her weakness for Kunal to stage the whole sham shaadi, and Kuhu learned from that, but when the divorce truth was revealed, it brought Kunal, Kuhu, and their weaknesses -- Kuhu's wrt to Mishti and Kunal's true feelings for Kuhu -- into the spotlight and Meenu suddenly saw another opportunity which had been carefully hidden from her all this time. I strongly believe that Kunal really gets Meenu and that is why he is so cautious about expressing his own feelings -- he knows that at best they'll be ingored and even more likely, used against him. That's why he didn't confirm that he loved Kuhu until he thought he had Meenu's approval. He didn't want to commit to a relationship he doesn't have the capacity to nibhao.

(Taking a second to LOL because this was supposed to be a quick reply 😆)

Kuhu gets this on a cellular level but it also terrifies her because this remains a relationship with a huge risk factor, unless Meenu is managed well. The divorce truth getting revealed the way it did has far-reaching consequences, because the sisters' feud gave Meenu a second wind when she thought she had been conclusively defeated. Even so, what could have been Meenu's general fear of change pacified over time has now been blown up by Kunal's public acknowledgment of Parul. Now, not only does Meenu have the tools to regain control, she has added confidence that she is doing the right thing for her family. Mishti does not get any of this, like AT ALL, in fact, she has the longest, most prolific track record of pissing Meenu off and sending her carefully managed family into chaos. If I were Kuhu, I'd also want to do everything in my power to stop that inevitable repeat of history and resent my experience being dismissed.

Originally posted by: Samanalyse

I don't want to say too much about a precap because they can be misleading, but it the more this arc unfolds, the more Kuhu's fears and anger seem totally justified to me. And it's not just about Mishti, though that is a major trigger. In the precap specifically, the way Mishti tries to cut Kuhu out of the conversation, it's like she's saying, jab bade baat karte hain to bacche beech mein nahi bolte. I mean, who wouldn't get frustrated being treated like that by someone your own age?

And she has done this to Kuhu from epiosde 1 (maybe 2?) when she pulled Ketu aside to talk to her, and told Kuhu to stay out of it despite the fact that it was Kuhu who found Ketu and got her to open up about her problems. The thing is, this kind of behaviour was allowed by the bade Maheshwaris -- Mishti was always praised for going off and doing manmani and Kuhu's feelings of betrayal were always dismissed as childish -- but Mishti can't take this for granted in the RV family.

Kuhu has a voice here, one that she earned and it's not so easily ignored. In addition, despite BM's superiority complex, I find the RV household much more meritocratic -- the more work you do towards the family and the more goodwill you earn, the more you are taken seriously in the family. Yes, ultimately, it's Meenu who decides who is worthy but I find her very fair in this matter. The whole conflict between her and Abir comes from the fact that she really, really, really wants to give him this power but she wants him to earn it on her terms first. She's saying, show me that you put this family first, even above your own desires (like I did) and then I will trust you with running it. Abir is yet to inspire this confidence in her. This is precisely why Parul actually has much more of a say than Nidhi (which Jasmeet doesn't quite get because this family structure is so unfamiliar); she simply does more work.

In all this Kuhu cracked the formula to managing Meenu all on her own. Meenu's major fear is change and loss of control and when that fear is stoked she uses her hyper-perceptiveness to play with the people around her until her sense of balance is restored. Kuhu dealt with the first part by showing Meenu over time (there is no single action to demonstrate this) that she has no intention of challenging the existing structure, but rather every intention to bolster it. The perfect example is her business; she could have challenged Meenu and said, I am a woman of today, I deserve to work; you owe it to me after what you did! But instead, she made her work accessible to the whole family and made the change less scary to Meenu. She dealt with the second part by holding her cards very close to her chest. She never made herself visible to Meenu unless she was doing something with/for the family.

By staying under the radar, and blending seamlessly into the family, she made herself invisible as a pawn for Meenu's games. Meenu exploited her weakness for Kunal to stage the whole sham shaadi, and Kuhu learned from that, but when the divorce truth was revealed, it brought Kunal, Kuhu, and their weaknesses -- Kuhu's wrt to Mishti and Kunal's true feelings for Kuhu -- into the spotlight and Meenu suddenly saw another opportunity which had been carefully hidden from her all this time. I strongly believe that Kunal really gets Meenu and that is why he is so cautious about expressing his own feelings -- he knows that at best they'll be ingored and even more likely, used against him. That's why he didn't confirm that he loved Kuhu until he thought he had Meenu's approval. He didn't want to commit to a relationship he doesn't have the capacity to nibhao.

(Taking a second to LOL because this was supposed to be a quick reply 😆)

Kuhu gets this on a cellular level but it also terrifies her because this remains a relationship with a huge risk factor, unless Meenu is managed well. The divorce truth getting revealed the way it did has far-reaching consequences, because the sisters' feud gave Meenu a second wind when she thought she had been conclusively defeated. Even so, what could have been Meenu's general fear of change pacified over time has now been blown up by Kunal's public acknowledgment of Parul. Now, not only does Meenu have the tools to regain control, she has added confidence that she is doing the right thing for her family. Mishti does not get any of this, like AT ALL, in fact, she has the longest, most prolific track record of pissing Meenu off and sending her carefully managed family into chaos. If I were Kuhu, I'd also want to do everything in my power to stop that inevitable repeat of history and resent my experience being dismissed.

👏👏👏👏👏 wow Sam you did it again. I really appreciate the insight you provide into Kuhu and Meenu's character.

@bold 100% on point. Misht sees Kuhu's acts, dialogues and actions as childish thanks to how the Bade maheswaris responded to Kuhu. This is where Mishti gets it from. Whereas Kuhu has proved herself to be an independent and intelligent individual at the Rajvansh, being able to manage so many different personalities in the household and getting along with them, including Meenu.

Also, sometimes Mishti comes across as a hypocrite to me. When she found out about Kuhu's divorce, she and Abir told her to move on to be a strong and independent girl and not let this sham relationship or Kunal control her. Kuhu does, she starts up her business, distances from Kunal and yet is able to maintain relationships. Whereas, when Abir rejects Mishti, she doesnt move on, she comes back with a plan of how to get Abir back in her life and all that. I mean I get that they were in love but still. If roles were reversed I am sure Mishti would have told Kuhu that this is childish and she shouldnt be chasing a guy who dumped her for whatever reason.

Kuhu has never focused to keep one family member happy, she has always molded herself into what is needed at the moment with everyone. Whereas, Mishti is concerned with being righteous.

Originally posted by: lopli

👏👏👏👏👏 wow Sam you did it again. I really appreciate the insight you provide into Kuhu and Meenu's character.

@bold 100% on point. Misht sees Kuhu's acts, dialogues and actions as childish thanks to how the Bade maheswaris responded to Kuhu. This is where Mishti gets it from. Whereas Kuhu has proved herself to be an independent and intelligent individual at the Rajvansh, being able to manage so many different personalities in the household and getting along with them, including Meenu.

Also, sometimes Mishti comes across as a hypocrite to me. When she found out about Kuhu's divorce, she and Abir told her to move on to be a strong and independent girl and not let this sham relationship or Kunal control her. Kuhu does, she starts up her business, distances from Kunal and yet is able to maintain relationships. Whereas, when Abir rejects Mishti, she doesnt move on, she comes back with a plan of how to get Abir back in her life and all that. I mean I get that they were in love but still. If roles were reversed I am sure Mishti would have told Kuhu that this is childish and she shouldnt be chasing a guy who dumped her for whatever reason.

Kuhu has never focused to keep one family member happy, she has always molded herself into what is needed at the moment with everyone. Whereas, Mishti is concerned with being righteous.

@bold: high-five, exactly my problem with mish

she told kuhu before mishbir break-up,'meri baat alag hai, abir mujhse pyaar karta hai par kunal tujhse pyaar nahi karta, abir mujhe kabhi nahi chhodega', and then she is proven wrong when abir breaks-up with her

I mean agreed that you know there would have been some huge reason else abir would never do that & then during nish-mish attack she shuts kuhu out completely & then when she goes to that jungle during off-site she tells kuhu, 'main kuchh galat nahi kar rahi hun, main apne haq ke liye ladh rahi hun', justifying her plan with nish, so mish is allowed to fight for her haq in her own way but why isnt kuhu allowed then?

living with rjvs, trying to earn a second chance(even if thats how mish wants to put it for kuhu), when she clearly knows that family comes first for kunal, all this could have been kuhu's way of fighting for her haq

also who are mishbir to tell kuhu what she should be doing with her marriage, I mean what all happened between kuku, I am sure they are not aware of even half the things, atleast give kuhu some space & credance to decide for her(thankfully abir has always limited to being suggesting only), do they even know what all transpired between kuku, the 'hamari kahani kuchh aur ho sakti thi', 'maine tumhe chhod kar bhai ko choose kiya', all those parts?😡

I was so glad during that navratri scene when kunal gives kuhu the divorce papers & mish asks kuhu to come along with her but kuhu clearly refuses & says, 'main jo bhi karungi wo sirf mera faisla hoga'❤️

Originally posted by: Samanalyse

I don't want to say too much about a precap because they can be misleading, but it the more this arc unfolds, the more Kuhu's fears and anger seem totally justified to me. And it's not just about Mishti, though that is a major trigger. In the precap specifically, the way Mishti tries to cut Kuhu out of the conversation, it's like she's saying, jab bade baat karte hain to bacche beech mein nahi bolte. I mean, who wouldn't get frustrated being treated like that by someone your own age?

And she has done this to Kuhu from epiosde 1 (maybe 2?) when she pulled Ketu aside to talk to her, and told Kuhu to stay out of it despite the fact that it was Kuhu who found Ketu and got her to open up about her problems. The thing is, this kind of behaviour was allowed by the bade Maheshwaris -- Mishti was always praised for going off and doing manmani and Kuhu's feelings of betrayal were always dismissed as childish -- but Mishti can't take this for granted in the RV family.

Kuhu has a voice here, one that she earned and it's not so easily ignored. In addition, despite BM's superiority complex, I find the RV household much more meritocratic -- the more work you do towards the family and the more goodwill you earn, the more you are taken seriously in the family. Yes, ultimately, it's Meenu who decides who is worthy but I find her very fair in this matter. The whole conflict between her and Abir comes from the fact that she really, really, really wants to give him this power but she wants him to earn it on her terms first. She's saying, show me that you put this family first, even above your own desires (like I did) and then I will trust you with running it. Abir is yet to inspire this confidence in her. This is precisely why Parul actually has much more of a say than Nidhi (which Jasmeet doesn't quite get because this family structure is so unfamiliar); she simply does more work.

In all this Kuhu cracked the formula to managing Meenu all on her own. Meenu's major fear is change and loss of control and when that fear is stoked she uses her hyper-perceptiveness to play with the people around her until her sense of balance is restored. Kuhu dealt with the first part by showing Meenu over time (there is no single action to demonstrate this) that she has no intention of challenging the existing structure, but rather every intention to bolster it. The perfect example is her business; she could have challenged Meenu and said, I am a woman of today, I deserve to work; you owe it to me after what you did! But instead, she made her work accessible to the whole family and made the change less scary to Meenu. She dealt with the second part by holding her cards very close to her chest. She never made herself visible to Meenu unless she was doing something with/for the family.

By staying under the radar, and blending seamlessly into the family, she made herself invisible as a pawn for Meenu's games. Meenu exploited her weakness for Kunal to stage the whole sham shaadi, and Kuhu learned from that, but when the divorce truth was revealed, it brought Kunal, Kuhu, and their weaknesses -- Kuhu's wrt to Mishti and Kunal's true feelings for Kuhu -- into the spotlight and Meenu suddenly saw another opportunity which had been carefully hidden from her all this time. I strongly believe that Kunal really gets Meenu and that is why he is so cautious about expressing his own feelings -- he knows that at best they'll be ingored and even more likely, used against him. That's why he didn't confirm that he loved Kuhu until he thought he had Meenu's approval. He didn't want to commit to a relationship he doesn't have the capacity to nibhao.

(Taking a second to LOL because this was supposed to be a quick reply 😆)

Kuhu gets this on a cellular level but it also terrifies her because this remains a relationship with a huge risk factor, unless Meenu is managed well. The divorce truth getting revealed the way it did has far-reaching consequences, because the sisters' feud gave Meenu a second wind when she thought she had been conclusively defeated. Even so, what could have been Meenu's general fear of change pacified over time has now been blown up by Kunal's public acknowledgment of Parul. Now, not only does Meenu have the tools to regain control, she has added confidence that she is doing the right thing for her family. Mishti does not get any of this, like AT ALL, in fact, she has the longest, most prolific track record of pissing Meenu off and sending her carefully managed family into chaos. If I were Kuhu, I'd also want to do everything in my power to stop that inevitable repeat of history and resent my experience being dismissed.

SAM! How are you such an artist with words?? I love love love how just when I thought it wasn't possible, you come with an analysis that makes me see and appreciate this story to such depths. Really, hats off!

I think the the greatest thing to be appreciated about Kunal and Kuhu is that they've always been concerned with how to keep the peace in the family, and keep their loved ones happy, even if it means that they sometimes don't always do the "right" thing. And this was highlighted in your post as well.

I like your observation about how the Rajvansh house is run on more a "meritocracy" system, unlike the Maheshwari house, because I didn't observe it before. That's probably precisely why Kuhu perfectly fits the profile of the ideal Rajvansh bahu. She knows how to win hearts, and given the chance after marrying Kunal, she seized the opportunity and ran with it. There were even times where we saw a good bond between Meenakshi and Kuhu (remember the scene where Kuhu is excited that Kunal and Abir patched up after their huge fight?), which was surprising, given that Meenakshi was and always will be, opposed to "outsiders" in her home.

Underlying all of Kuhu's insecurities is pure fear. Fear that the relationships she carefully crafted with everyone in the family will come crumbling down because of how she feels about Mishti. Fear that Kunal will end up rejecting her like he did the first time (which I find highly ironic, because Kunal also has a deep-seated fear of rejection). Fear that no matter what she does or how she does it, Mishti will always come out on top shining, because, well, that's basically been her whole life.

I sometimes feel like a bad person for relating to Kuhu's character the most on the show, especially when I venture out into the main forum, but I always come back to this AT and remind myself that I'm not the only one that sees her in this light. I just wonder if the writers purposely crafted her character this way so that there would always be that portion of the audience that empathizes with her and doesn't see her as this horrible person.

today's episode title- Kuhu's naughty surprise 🤪

While Kuhu gives Kunal a naughty surprise, Mishti falls prey to Meenakshi's trap. Later, in a heated argument Kuhu shoots some harsh accusations at Mishti

kuku dance on humma humma😈

I knew Kuhu will plan something when she looked at that bathrobe in yesterday's episode😆

Havent actually watched the KuKu scene. To me it seems like writers just rush their scenes. If they have forgotten the KuKu storyline, the should spend some time re-watching old episodes.

I mean on wedding night they come across as shy and blushing and yet a week later they are dancing on Humma Humma. Also, KuKu are not a dancing couple that given any situation they just break into dance. Give us one decent conversation.

They have so much potential, why ruin it, they need to talk to each other especially after an argument. Kuhu is upset, Kunal gives her a peck on the cheek, Kunal is upset Kuhu breaks into seductive dance. I mean I dont mind seeing all this, but right now it seems like they are just brushing things under the rug and never having a good conversation. Their relation seems fragile to me.

WELL I take back everything I said about Kuhu being the unproblematic bahu. #RebellionMode

Edit: Watched further into the episode, and what Sam said about Kuhu understanding how Meenakshi thinks was reinforced in this episode.

Edit 2: Was I the only one laughing the whole time during the shouting match? Abir and Kunal's plan went for a TOSS #RestInPeace

Went back and watched the full episode.

Seems like the editing for the last scene was not that great, the dialogues seemed off.

Abir saying ab zyada ho gaya bro, but Kuhu didnt actually say anything out right mean, she has said worse in the past.

Kunal putting Kuhu down in front of Mishti again needs to stop.

Again Mishti's bhashan to Kuhu on how she shouldnt be talking about Meenu like this. Also hypocrisy again she said that she has had first hand experience qith Meenakshi and yet she doesnt want to say anything wrong about her. Did she forget that Meenakshi created a whole sham marriage for Kuhu, Kuhu spent the first 6 months of marriage in constant fear of how her mom and Maheswaris will react when they found out. Yet she lived with Meenakshi without creating drama

Again Mishti proved Kuhu's line that agar tu roye to tera dard aur mein roye toh tantrum.

Mishti needs to stop thinking that she has always had the smaller end of the stick, whether its with Meenakshi or losing her love temporarily.

Kuhu has experinced both those things, she has been a pawn for Meenu and Kunal, her fairytale was nearly destroyed.

Also you know Mishti keeps tell Kuhu that she is a jal kukdi (jealous) to me it seems like Mishti is equally jealous of Kuhu, but just hides it well.

Originally posted by: journalgirl321

SAM! How are you such an artist with words?? I love love love how just when I thought it wasn't possible, you come with an analysis that makes me see and appreciate this story to such depths. Really, hats off!

I think the the greatest thing to be appreciated about Kunal and Kuhu is that they've always been concerned with how to keep the peace in the family, and keep their loved ones happy, even if it means that they sometimes don't always do the "right" thing. And this was highlighted in your post as well.

I like your observation about how the Rajvansh house is run on more a "meritocracy" system, unlike the Maheshwari house, because I didn't observe it before. That's probably precisely why Kuhu perfectly fits the profile of the ideal Rajvansh bahu. She knows how to win hearts, and given the chance after marrying Kunal, she seized the opportunity and ran with it. There were even times where we saw a good bond between Meenakshi and Kuhu (remember the scene where Kuhu is excited that Kunal and Abir patched up after their huge fight?), which was surprising, given that Meenakshi was and always will be, opposed to "outsiders" in her home.

Underlying all of Kuhu's insecurities is pure fear. Fear that the relationships she carefully crafted with everyone in the family will come crumbling down because of how she feels about Mishti. Fear that Kunal will end up rejecting her like he did the first time (which I find highly ironic, because Kunal also has a deep-seated fear of rejection). Fear that no matter what she does or how she does it, Mishti will always come out on top shining, because, well, that's basically been her whole life.

I sometimes feel like a bad person for relating to Kuhu's character the most on the show, especially when I venture out into the main forum, but I always come back to this AT and remind myself that I'm not the only one that sees her in this light. I just wonder if the writers purposely crafted her character this way so that there would always be that portion of the audience that empathizes with her and doesn't see her as this horrible person.

@bold- I dont have that high expectation from the writers. They probably did not think that there would be fans who relate to the parallel lead more than the FL and this would make their efforts to keep FL mahaan easier.