Writers and CVs ki Jai Ho!!🙆🏻‍♀️ - Page 3

Originally posted by: aquaHP

@bold - I have definitely seen that happening in the few posts that I have created or tried to interact in. Post leap, people were more open to discussing both couples and so, it was possible to discuss the story arc but not anymore. As you said, people's feelings are heavily invested in a couple of their choice.

I have mentioned this in another post also that I have become like a brand ambassador of the KuKu AT because I keep advertising it to people to come and share their views and opinions. There are a whole bunch of people on that AT who like discussing the story and characters but as the name suggests, it's more KuKu centric. We do discuss the overall arc most of the time but most of the participants have stopped posting on the forum because of the backlash from emotionally invested fans. People seem to just want to discuss one couple and no other character so most of them just stick to the AT. Since I am still pretty new to the forum, I try making posts covering as many characters as possible but it does feel like I will stop doing that pretty soon.

I'll attach a link to an old thread here. I think you will find the discussion interesting.

https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/yeh-rishtey-hai-pyaar-ke/5143094/too-mera-nanko-nahi-ho-sakta

This forum actually has quite decent, smart and reasonably balanced members - comparatively. And imho far more open minded than other forums/SNS sites.

Having said that, everyone has their favorites and of course, strong opinions. I have been on this forum for a long time and I do agree, some come across as very harsh, but relatively most members try to reason peacefully.

MishBir fans in general do not have any problem with makers showing KuKu story, but since MishBir are the leads their fans somewhat feel entitled and get edgy when AM story is compromised to accommodate other stories/tracks. I feel most MishBir fans are not naive to just want to see AM romance all the time even if there is no story... in fact, when AM story is done justice and given it's due screenspace, fans actually enjoy all the other parallel tracks and the show story in general. It's when the balance is off, that's when things and emotions go out of control and we see sparks flying...

And lately, our show writers/editors are not at their best, they have lost the balance and made a khichadi of the show trying to show too many things at the same time and as a result not doing justice to any couple, track or character! They seem to be in some kind of rush... God knows why! It appears as if they have a goal to nowhere...

They could have easily covered KuKu wedding in one episode and MishBir wedding in another... both sets of fans would have enjoyed it much better that way! For MishBir fans, this was their leads first shaadi and they have been waiting for the past 11 months. But what do they get, parallel shaadi and that too in micro bursts, with main focus on Kuhu's emotions... fans bound to get upset!

And not to mention their obsession with showing parallel scenes of the couples! Haldi sequence was still reasonably done, but there have been songs and scenes in the past where the focus kept jumping from one couple to another and the viewers are at a loss because the two couples are in a different stages of their relationships and viewers have to constantly keep switching their emotions to keep up with what they are showing!

CVs need to practice what they preach - #KeepItSeparate

Regarding the ATs, ultimately we have ATs because we are a fan of a character or a couple. The story being discussed or mega analysis done in the ATs is also from the AT subject point of view only - so it doesn't really cover the story of the show in it's entirety anyway. And it is very hard to be neutral in the ATs because the members there are clearly a fan of one subject more than the other! So one cannot help but have a biased opinion in any AT!

The major difference between the two couples fans here is that MishBir fans have to work less hard at selling their couple than KuKu fans do since the show has explored MishBir emotions way more than KuKu. Also, with Kuhu's character flipping constantly, her fans have to go to great lengths to justify her character and actions and give it a positive spin!

I suspect the reason for the backlash that you have mentioned in your post is a result of the way grey characters like Kuhu and even darker Meenu are defended in some posts with logic that comes across as twisted and convoluted and that too for the character's very obvious plotting/selfish actions! Trying to present the character's obviously hurtful and deliberate actions as something meaningful, by hook or by crook, and at the same time presenting A/M's very obvious positive actions also as some deep hidden convenient shortcuts is not something that most people will buy into and they retaliate. It's not like AM fans are superficial and are not capable of understanding the story and it's layers or lack in intelligence but at the same time they are not going to accept arguments that come across as twisted attempt to present AM as someone they are not because AM fans also watch the same show and can clearly see what's happening.

Also, some fans have made it clear in their posts that Mishti rubbed them the wrong way early on, so they have made up their minds that they are not going to like her... then it's hard to take their opinion as neutral, isn't it?

Since Kuhu is a grey character and I am not her die-hard fan, my opinion on her character is situation based. But I haven't made up my mind that I am not going to like her... so my opinions have some room for adjustment.

I have expressed my view on Kuhu as a MishBir fan, in this post: https://www.indiaforums.com/forum/yeh-rishtey-hai-pyaar-ke/5152284/kuhu-is-still-annoying-and-mean

Sorry bahot jyada lamba ho gaya... didn't meant to write a long essay I guess I had a lot to cover!

Btw, you make all kinds of different posts in the forum and I appreciate your efforts in keeping the forum interesting 👍🏼

I love both the couples and currently it's in a good phase so plz continue to make such posts where we can have unbiased discussions 👍🏼 Agree with all the views here

I also agree that it's their writing which is going in extremes ..they have a perfect receipe for a super hit show , just dont go that routine way of pitting women against each other in jealousy and insecurity .... develop the track properly where the audience can judge why is so and so doing what they are doing . Where we can find the motivation behind their actions . Where one woman doesnt have to become a vamp and the heroine bechari sacrificing cow. Where the Male leads are not reduced to furniture.

Originally posted by: _charu_

I love both the couples and currently it's in a good phase so plz continue to make such posts where we can have unbiased discussions 👍🏼 Agree with all the views here

I also agree that it's their writing which is going in extremes ..they have a perfect receipe for a super hit show , just dont go that routine way of pitting women against each other in jealousy and insecurity .... develop the track properly where the audience can judge why is so and so doing what they are doing . Where we can find the motivation behind their actions . Where one woman doesnt have to become a vamp and the heroine bechari sacrificing cow. Where the Male leads are not reduced to furniture.

I definitely agree with you! Over these many months, I have grown to love each character of YRHPK as a part of my family, and because of that, I have internally tried to find justifications behind why a character did a certain thing, or why they behaved a certain way. Obviously, my interpretations are simply a product of my imagination, but then again, the writers have unfortunately, left too much to the imagination by rushing through track after track, without giving any of it much depth.

I really hope that, in the upcoming track, Abir and Kunal will serve as bridges between the two sisters, but since it's ITV, we all know that isn't gonna happen. The male leads will be reduced to background noise while the female leads go to war, and we will see ZERO character development on either end. And this, ladies and gentlemen, is precisely how you kill a show. By flattening the characters to a point of no return, just for the sake of maintaining a supposedly "exciting and fast-paced" plot

I've always wondered why western television shows have been more popularized and glamorized that Indian television shows. The new track in YRHPK has highlighted exactly what is wrong with the ITV industry: everything moves much too fast. These shows are telecast five days a week (well now six, LMAO), and sure, the writers have the first, like, two-three months of the show figured out, but after that, then what? The writers have to figure out the direction of the show while simultaneously writing to keep up with the demands of the channel. It's literally as if the writers themselves are writing fanfiction, but the only difference between them and fanfiction writers is that the fanfiction they write becomes the reality on the screen. How can you possibly expect real depth, or a real story from any of that?

Whatever happens in the show, I won't give up my imagination. I'll continue to create arcs and headcanons to my heart's content. This is where I'll give the writers credit for one thing: I truly fell in love with the characters in this story. And I have them (and our brilliant, shamelessly talented actors) to thank for bringing them to life.

This is some really interesting discussion going on.. I watch the show everyday and read all the discussions going on the forum.

Like I read everyone's opinions.. I love reading so many different takes on the same episode and same sequence of events.. And I absolutely don't mind the drama for I know that is the only thing that is going to keep the show stay for long..

I understand the fans motivations, for how they want the story to move forward but at the end of the day, it is a show and they need profits as much as they can get.. without drama, I don't think any show can sustain. I remember these 2 shows on star plus (for their own credit, star plus did experimentation with stories to see if the indian audience has matured) firrst one was dahleez and another prisoners of war.. Both such beautiful and soulful shows, amazing storeyline, beautiful and talented cast and meaningful scenes but what did they get..those were the least watched shows on star plus, never getting any respectable rating points. That is the reason I don't expect the creatives to give up the drama. The only thing they can do and which I think they are doing is have motivations and reasons behind that drama.. obviously there are hiccups along the way and there is another reason for that..

This five day a week pattern(now six??).. I mean, writing is a long and hard process.. it takes time to create a story, and with such a limited time span, the need for having a script that you want to appeal to all audiences(trp?) and then mould the story according to the incoming number.. like some tracks are stretched beyond their capabilities and some are just ended within a day.. it's all so volatile and I appreciate the writers for having some sembelence of storeyline, character arcs amidst of these..trying to give nice and meaningful scenes..

Originally posted by: journalgirl321

we will see ZERO character development on either end. And this, ladies and gentlemen, is precisely how you kill a show. By flattening the characters to a point of no return, just for the sake of maintaining a supposedly "exciting and fast-paced" plot

I've always wondered why western television shows have been more popularized and glamorized that Indian television shows. The new track in YRHPK has highlighted exactly what is wrong with the ITV industry: everything moves much too fast. These shows are telecast five days a week (well now six,

Agree to what you said but the above 2 para really resonated.

It really hurts to see great characters with unplumed depths wasted. When you also have good actors who are capable of showing the whole range of human emotions you just feel bad for them being used as part of the scenary! What a waste of talent.

6 days is worrying me. Actors are human being, as creative artists they need time to refill their well to give their best. In many shows a lot of them look tired and give wooden performance. Really would hate to see that happen here.

But we also need the story to be interesting. It can change tracks, switch focus to other characters (so leads can have a break if needed), add new twists or go back to old ones nut when it becomes choppy or rushed it is worrying. DKP is known for producing family shows and tend to show minutiae of family events like weddings that I am perplexed as to why in this show they short changed Misbir and fans - in storytelling this is called payoff. No wonder people are upset!