Rudra's Backstory is Alarming - Page 2

@sanjana: Nice 2 see you again. I remember those days when you & I supported arya & u stopped posting for quite some time. I guess there is more to it. I guess her family must have known about the MJ-Maanvi relationship. I guess her dad was least bothered while her mom was anxious. Her Manas is not in pic. So does her dad. I hope they show how her family reacts. Otherwise how Maya lost her dad & bro? How come Nandini does not know that her husband & son was killed. If a person in a family takes loan & defaults, won't the creditor target his/her family? You have a point. Theoretically, it is right. But practically whatever the parents or the children do, it affects the whole family.

@beyhadhfan: It is also nice to find your post here. I would like to add one more thing to your point. MJ also paid the hospital bills for Maya's father's accident. Even at that time, her mom was not happy.

Both of you are right from your viewpoint. I didn't want Mayra after Maya killed Rishi. I don't want Ruan after Rudra left Ananya in the mandap & went to meet Maya.

MJ is a rogue, b***d, & a womanizer. Diya, Amir, and Ananya's dad supported MJ in his dirty game. So they are partners in crime.

Though Maya suspected MJ, he had emotionally blackmailed her & made her feel special so she will come to his arms.

Personally, even I wish that Maya had not killed Rudra. But the cvs will show what they want.

Everyones here saying Rudra marrying Maya is fine

But if you think of it personally its very wrong morally

Because marriage is not only saath pheras it has too many other things

Forget society forget relatives and friends etc and even law

Imagine Rudra and Maya have a child and that child gets to know his mother Maya had a fling with his grand father MJ and even had a baby once hes a bit big, can Maya tell her child why she was MJs GF than married MJs son Rudra? That child will become mentally messed up if he gets to know his grandfather and mother had relationship and baby together.

Can Rudra explain to his child later why he married Maya who had been lover of his faher MJ if child gets to know later?

And ok Maya have baby from Rudra will that baby be grandcchild of MJ or his former GFs child (more like uncle or father relation) whats their relationship?

If MJ and Rudra stay in same house all sort of such complication will arise

How will antara accept her husband former GF as her only sons wife. Which wife shall be ready to do that?

How will antara accept Rudras child from Maya, because Maya is former lover of her husband? Can any woman accept that?

Than child will ask where did Rishi go? Can rudra tell him maya killed his uncle?

Than child will ask why? Can Rudra or Maya explain why?

This is no simple matter, it may look like simple thing

Maya tried to kill Rudra a few times, can Rudra trust her to not harm him after he gets to know all this. If he does hes a saint not human.

What if Rudra is trying to take revenge on Maya???

Originally posted by: myviewprem

Everyones here saying Rudra marrying Maya is fine

But if you think of it personally its very wrong morally

Because marriage is not only saath pheras it has too many other things

Forget society forget relatives and friends etc and even law

Imagine Rudra and Maya have a child and that child gets to know his mother Maya had a fling with his grand father MJ and even had a baby once hes a bit big, can Maya tell her child why she was MJs GF than married MJs son Rudra? That child will become mentally messed up if he gets to know his grandfather and mother had relationship and baby together.

Maya can tell everything to her child can brought up the child maturedly. Nope the child won't get messed up mentally if it was explained properly. Maya can brought up the child by explaining good and bad in society by giving an example of her own life. No worries

Can Rudra explain to his child later why he married Maya who had been lover of his faher MJ if child gets to know later?

Rudra absolutely can tell. And also Myra can brought up there kid , if it is a baby girl then they can say there can be cruel men like MJ in society so don't be so innocent like Maanvi and don't go into total darkness like Maya Jaya Singh but grow up and live like Maya Rudra Roy and also is it's a baby boy they can bought him up by telling their story and can guide him to become a Rudra Roy but not MJ

And ok Maya have baby from Rudra will that baby be grandcchild of MJ or his former GFs child (more like uncle or father relation) whats their relationship?

How doesn't that it matters how the baby is related to MJ?.. as if either Maya or Rudra will care to get their kid any where near to MJ.. leave about having any relationship with him

If MJ and Rudra stay in same house all sort of such complication will arise

They will not live in same house it's obvious

How will antara accept her husband former GF as her only sons wife. Which wife shall be ready to do that?

Who cares Anthara accepts Maya or not lol.. Maya only will never accept Anthara as her family.. infact I doubt even Rudra will accept this lady as his mother after knowing that she helped her husband in destroying an innocent girl after using her.. This woman was only caring about her obsession for her husband she was even manipulating Rudra at times to satisfy her husband.

How will antara accept Rudras child from Maya, because Maya is former lover of her husband? Can any woman accept that?

Anthara is not needed to accept Maya or her baby.. Is Anthara a woman ? Which woman would help her husband in destroying another woman after deceiving her and having a relationship with another woman..

Than child will ask where did Rishi go? Can rudra tell him maya killed his uncle?

This is the real question . Yes the child can't be fine if he knows that mother killed father's brother , who is innocent. This is why everyone exoecting Maya will die after giving birth to a baby. But above mentioned all things are not at all reasons for Maya to not have a kid with Rudra and to have a happy ending apart from Rishi's thing

Than child will ask why? Can Rudra or Maya explain why?

This is no simple matter, it may look like simple thing

Maya tried to kill Rudra a few times, can Rudra trust her to not harm him after he gets to know all this. If he does hes a saint not human.

Maya tried and she understood that she never can infact now she reached a stage that she is so depended on him that her life depended on his so it's obvious she will not kill him.

Originally posted by: Beyhadfan

See no matter what the situation, the common theme is that the blame is always put on the women.

MJ was the one that was married, MJ was the one that had two children, MJ was the one who dirtied his wife in the eyes of Maya, by complaining that she sleeps with another man. MJ is the one who pursued Maya because she merely rejected his flowers. It was MJ that said he decided to leave his wife, It is MJ who presented Maya fake divorce papers to convince her that the marriage was over. It is MJ that made Sudeer, Amir, Diya lie to Maya, to convince her of everything MJ had lied to her about. So why haven't you paused to criticise this animal?

I think it was made pretty clear, that Maya was not the brightest tool, in the tool box. Her mum even mentioned that she was worried about people taking advantage of her because of her Bholapaan. It is why Maya screamed at her former self, angry that she was had trust in people.

Why should a girl that has been wronged in such a brutal way not deserve love again.

I'm glad she has Rudra.

UMM hello, there is no blood relationship between her and Rudra, what are you talking about, that's ridiculous.

Totally agree with you.I think the reason why they made Maya killed Rishi is to bring those conflicting emotions in Rudra for Maya like same way how Maya was having conflicting emotions for Rudra since the start. She hated him for being MJ's son and she was loving him for being Rudra who is totally opposite to MJ in nature. And finally she choosen to love him. And Rudra too might be hating her for killing his brother and also might be still loving her after understanding that what made her go into totally darkness and do such thing. Rudra might be in situations that he can't live with her and can't live without her but in all this I am sure he will be the one who will help Maya directly or indirectly in killing MJ. And I don't think that Rudra will want his father to be alive either , after knowing his reality.

Originally posted by: myviewprem

Everyone here saying Rudra marrying Maya is fine

But if you think of it personally it is very wrong morally

Because marriage is not only saath pheras it has too many other things

Forget society forget relatives and friends etc and even law

Imagine Rudra and Maya have a child and that child gets to know his mother Maya had a fling with his grandfather MJ and even had a baby once he's a bit big, can Maya tell her child why she was MJs GF than married MJs son Rudra? That child will become mentally messed up if he gets to know his grandfather and mother had a relationship and baby together.

Can Rudra explain to his child later why he married Maya who had been a lover of his father MJ if the child gets to know later?

And ok Maya have a baby from Rudra will that baby be the grandchild of MJ or his former GFs child (more like uncle or father relation) what's their relationship?

If MJ and Rudra stay in the same house all sort of such complication will arise

How will Antara accept her husband's former GF as her only sons' wife? Which wife shall be ready to do that?

How will Antara accept Rudra's child from Maya, because Maya is the former lover of her husband? Can any woman accept that?

Then the child will ask where did Rishi goes? Can Rudra tell him maya killed his uncle?

Then the child will ask why? Can Rudra or Maya explain why?

This is no simple matter, it may look like a simple thing

Maya tried to kill Rudra a few times, can Rudra trust her to not harm him after he gets to know all this. If he does he's a saint not human.

If Maya had given birth to MJ's child, then these complications would have occurred. But she lost her child. So there is no relationship between Maya & the child. Yes, it won't be easy for Rudra to forgive Maya or trust her. But he won't be able to deny the fact that his father did that to his wife before making love to his girlfriend. MJ is obsessed to make Ananya his DIL because she is his friend's daughter.

some of the thought processes here are

The victim blaming is aggravating/disheartening. If only MJ was questioned as much as maya. The mentality here is " well Mj is horrible but it was up to maya to be the smart one. Well, she wasn't and that is why maya still berates herself to this day. Yes she was stupid but doesn't change the fact that she was abused and her family killed.

As for the concept, I understand it is bold and CV's took a risk. but instead of focusing on MJ abusing her in the past and present, you all are obsessed with MJ and Maya's relationship. Look, it happened 10 years ago and that baby is dead. why talk about something that never happened?

Maybe the MJ and manvi and Maya and rudra connection is taboo, but it is not incest. Here is the definition of Incest.

sexual relations between people classed as being too closely related to marry each other.

• the crime of having sexual intercourse with a parent, child, sibling, or grandchild.

Are maya and rudra related by blood? are they cousins even? are they like Jaime and Cersei from GoT? no. so what incest are you talking about? you know what is really weird? Director Woody allen marrying his adopted daughter. Whereas Maya and Mj had a fleeting relationship 10 years ago, which was only characterized by betrayal and abuse.

If rudra and Maya had a child, then they can explain their history to him/her when he/she is older. they will raise the child as a loving, mature individual who understands the complexities of life. I doubt any of that would matter to the child once she/he finds out what his/her mother went through and how happy she is with her/his, father.

additionally, I doubt maya cares whether antara accepts her as a bahu. her opinions don't matter, hell even MJ does not care about her lol. MJ and Antara are inconsequential. I'm sure maya would never let her child near them, neither does she care what they think.

The amount of time some are spending fault-finding in Maya, I wish some also spent a similar amount of time fault-finding in Mrityunjay as well. On one hand, we have a problem with Maya killing Rishi and Maya marrying Rudra and term it as unjustified and incest and God knows what. But when Mrityunjay resorts to heinous acts, we find his bad boy alpha wolf vibe attractive??

Why? Because Maya - the heroine should be fitting into the stereotype of being the adarsh nari and not resort to acts of crime. And Mrityunjay is supposed to fit into the stereotype of being the villain who is also attractive? Why is it so hard to digest a "grey" heroine? Why? Just because we are conditioned to expect women to be a certain way, they have to be. And men can be whatever they want to be. Why?

Women are not humans? If men are capable of doing good and bad, right and wrong, feeling good and bad, acting on those feelings, so are women. Its high time we learn to accept that. As far as the show is concerned, Maya is a flawed character, who is allowed to make mistakes, who is allowed to make her choices, who is allowed to say 'no', who is allowed to be what she chooses to be and also face consequences and results of her actions, and the same goes for Mrityunjay.

As far as Rudra is concerned, isn't he flawed too? He says he has the guts to walk out of the Roy mansion, but he did not. He says Rishi is his bachcha, but he failed to give him the proper values in perspective to life and women, he never contributed to how Rishi is being raised. He was self-consumed and emotional because of his mom and brother. But what about safeguarding them from Mrityunjay and his abusive persona. He did nothing, in fact, he inadvertently encouraged Mrityunjay to become more abusive by the day.

Mrityunjay and Maya's relationship was a fling (For MJ) and there was a child who was never born. It is the past. Everyone has past relationships. Hasn't there been shows like The Bold and the Beautiful, or hasn't there been shows like The Vampire Diaries. It wasn't incest, it was a relationship which broke and both moved on. If makers want to show something different, why is it so agonizing to accept. Just because they are American, and don't fit the Indian context. And there are so many ridiculous shows out there, which people lap it up and watch, then what is the harm in watching this?

And MayRa child, firstly they need to have one, secondly one of the partners will die is a high possibility. As far as raising the child is concerned, he/she will be raised the way it is deemed right - to be accepting, to be embracing of differences, to respect every person irrespective of their gender, to be respectful that every person has a life and they make mistakes and life is about learning from those mistakes and moving on, and most importantly, to be happy. The rest is inconsequential.

And this show isn't about moral science or even rocket science. It is just a show, let's just treat it as one. No point doing so much matha pachchi, the CVs don't and so shouldn't we.

These are just my thoughts, and with no intention to offend anyone.

Originally posted by: libran90

The amount of time some are spending fault-finding in Maya, I wish some also spent a similar amount of time fault-finding in Mrityunjay as well. On one hand, we have a problem with Maya killing Rishi and Maya marrying Rudra and term it as unjustified and incest and God knows what. But when Mrityunjay resorts to heinous acts, we find his bad boy alpha wolf vibe attractive??

Why? Because Maya - the heroine should be fitting into the stereotype of being the adarsh nari and not resort to acts of crime. And Mrityunjay is supposed to fit into the stereotype of being the villain who is also attractive? Why is it so hard to digest a "grey" heroine? Why? Just because we are conditioned to expect women to be a certain way, they have to be. And men can be whatever they want to be. Why?

Women are not humans? If men are capable of doing good and bad, right and wrong, feeling good and bad, acting on those feelings, so are women. Its high time we learn to accept that. As far as the show is concerned, Maya is a flawed character, who is allowed to make mistakes, who is allowed to make her choices, who is allowed to say 'no', who is allowed to be what she chooses to be and also face consequences and results of her actions, and the same goes for Mrityunjay.

As far as Rudra is concerned, isn't he flawed too? He says he has the guts to walk out of the Roy mansion, but he did not. He says Rishi is his bachcha, but he failed to give him the proper values in perspective to life and women, he never contributed to how Rishi is being raised. He was self-consumed and emotional because of his mom and brother. But what about safeguarding them from Mrityunjay and his abusive persona. He did nothing, in fact, he inadvertently encouraged Mrityunjay to become more abusive by the day.

Mrityunjay and Maya's relationship was a fling (For MJ) and there was a child who was never born. It is the past. Everyone has past relationships. Hasn't there been shows like The Bold and the Beautiful, or hasn't there been shows like The Vampire Diaries. It wasn't incest, it was a relationship which broke and both moved on. If makers want to show something different, why is it so agonizing to accept. Just because they are American, and don't fit the Indian context. And there are so many ridiculous shows out there, which people lap it up and watch, then what is the harm in watching this?

And MayRa child, firstly they need to have one, secondly one of the partners will die is a high possibility. As far as raising the child is concerned, he/she will be raised the way it is deemed right - to be accepting, to be embracing of differences, to respect every person irrespective of their gender, to be respectful that every person has a life and they make mistakes and life is about learning from those mistakes and moving on, and most importantly, to be happy. The rest is inconsequential.

And this show isn't about moral science or even rocket science. It is just a show, let's just treat it as one. No point doing so much matha pachchi, the CVs don't and so shouldn't we.

These are just my thoughts, and with no intention to offend anyone.

Bang on👍🏼

Originally posted by: libran90

The amount of time some are spending fault-finding in Maya, I wish some also spent a similar amount of time fault-finding in Mrityunjay as well. On one hand, we have a problem with Maya killing Rishi and Maya marrying Rudra and term it as unjustified and incest and God knows what. But when Mrityunjay resorts to heinous acts, we find his bad boy alpha wolf vibe attractive??

Why? Because Maya - the heroine should be fitting into the stereotype of being the adarsh nari and not resort to acts of crime. And Mrityunjay is supposed to fit into the stereotype of being the villain who is also attractive? Why is it so hard to digest a "grey" heroine? Why? Just because we are conditioned to expect women to be a certain way, they have to be. And men can be whatever they want to be. Why?

Women are not humans? If men are capable of doing good and bad, right and wrong, feeling good and bad, acting on those feelings, so are women. Its high time we learn to accept that. As far as the show is concerned, Maya is a flawed character, who is allowed to make mistakes, who is allowed to make her choices, who is allowed to say 'no', who is allowed to be what she chooses to be and also face consequences and results of her actions, and the same goes for Mrityunjay.

As far as Rudra is concerned, isn't he flawed too? He says he has the guts to walk out of the Roy mansion, but he did not. He says Rishi is his bachcha, but he failed to give him the proper values in perspective to life and women, he never contributed to how Rishi is being raised. He was self-consumed and emotional because of his mom and brother. But what about safeguarding them from Mrityunjay and his abusive persona. He did nothing, in fact, he inadvertently encouraged Mrityunjay to become more abusive by the day.

Mrityunjay and Maya's relationship was a fling (For MJ) and there was a child who was never born. It is the past. Everyone has past relationships. Hasn't there been shows like The Bold and the Beautiful, or hasn't there been shows like The Vampire Diaries. It wasn't incest, it was a relationship which broke and both moved on. If makers want to show something different, why is it so agonizing to accept. Just because they are American, and don't fit the Indian context. And there are so many ridiculous shows out there, which people lap it up and watch, then what is the harm in watching this?

And MayRa child, firstly they need to have one, secondly one of the partners will die is a high possibility. As far as raising the child is concerned, he/she will be raised the way it is deemed right - to be accepting, to be embracing of differences, to respect every person irrespective of their gender, to be respectful that every person has a life and they make mistakes and life is about learning from those mistakes and moving on, and most importantly, to be happy. The rest is inconsequential.

And this show isn't about moral science or even rocket science. It is just a show, let's just treat it as one. No point doing so much matha pachchi, the CVs don't and so shouldn't we.

These are just my thoughts, and with no intention to offend anyone.

Very well said, Sohini! 👏