Ep 41: Ateet kabhi bhi laut kar phir aa sakta hai - Page 2

Originally posted by: NamuVyas

Todays epi for me was a treat as a MayRa fan ... fencing + dance plus precap everything.. I was watching with bated breath 😆.. mondays epi was like a foundation and by Thursday it leaves u with something totally unexpected..

It was a good episode. It wasn't too exciting, because social media sab kabada kar deta hai. But anyway, I am more interested in the Hrishikesh track and how it will lead to that.

Firstly for Maya to fight her war she needs to be a part of the war.. even Krishna had to be a part of the war and direct arjuna and make strategies inside the war zone.. killing off Rudra can only hurt MJ for now.. but for this war she needs her fighter and probably that's what might change her mind..

Honestly, what did she gain by killing Rishi? Mrityunjay par koi asar to nahi hua. Honestly, mujhe to Mrityunjay aisa aadmi lagta hai jisko Rudra ki maut bhi na hila sake. That is why it was important that Maya now overcomes her fears and faces the bull by the horns.

Her feelings for Rudra already surfaced and we know how.. but she went back to square one with myra incident.. but the foundation has already formed.. and now the story actually takes a start with Maya coming into Roy house and this foundation will play its role further on..

Even when Maya plays her tricks, then also her real vulnerable self comes to the fore. The words spoken in a drunken stupor were not just meant for Rudra, but somehow for herself in a way.

Mayas laughter was a laugh of losing her plan.. because Rudra changed his mind and her plan zoned out.. with him her plans will always zone out.. now she is trying another way around with him.. he blocked her away.. I am sure something went for a toss in her plan and why she left to rishikesh making Rudra follow her and even there too something went for a toss and so marriage happened.. even with hate, ur destiny will find it's way wether u want or not..

Yes, uski satak gayi hai. It shows how much Rudra affects her. How much she wants him by her side. Ye ek alag kism ki sanak hai, which is not associated with revenge for Mrityunjay, but her desire for Rudra. This is no longer about using Rudra for her game. This is about having Rudra by hook or crook. Isiliye these ghise pite formulae, she is trying on him. See, ye Maya normal Maya hai nahi. She isn't hasti masti Maya. She is hasti-masti Maya combined with a strange obsession or sanak within her, which used to burn for revenge, but now it is burning for love. She wants Rudra for herself, and she does not realize that. I guess she will soon enough.

Rudra and Maya both are stuck into a zone.. For Rudra he wants to know what Maya wants that's it.. had she said that she loves him, he will leave and come to her and guess that's what happens at the end.. same with Maya what he saying Rudra is not wrong.. he is doing a mess marrying Ananya.. I do wanna see MayRa emotionally connecting but I think it will be not so soon from Mayas end.. it might be eventually only..

The fencing is where they started .. the first hate, the first challenge and now the first confession.. first time Rudra was hurt intentionally but ended up discovering her, second time he was defeated he rose over it by winning her challenge and third time he fought hard but let go in the end but will he let go of Maya and his love in real?

The thing here is we have seen Maya's sanak. But we haven't seen or bore witness to Rudra's sanak. Thoda usme bhi hai. After all Mrityunjay Roy ka beta hai, kuch to similarities hogi na.

How does Maya plan to kill Rudra? May be by making him break this wedding and sudhir kills him 🤔.. God knows..I couldn't connect the dots of her plan..

Ditto. Whatever she planned had to be changed at the end moment.

Rest the seductive part was good.. I already saw that video zillion times since morning 😆.. so I was already done with it.. 😆

Precap and pool again part is to show Ananya only.. let's see what is it about..

Probably, so that Ananya sees or hears Rudra confessing. Don't know how that will fructify. Kyunki shaadi wale scenes to shoot huye hai Ananya and Rudra ke, but shaadi hui nahi.

Originally posted by: Tiaraa

Let me begin..

I practically pressed skip 60 sec when ananya and uski nautanki family came..it was torture to my eyes..so i wont speak about them

What i liked is rudra is acting like normal male...he felt rejected..he is having bhaaav and since maya is chasing him..he is running from her

The moment she runs he will chase..typical!

Ye inn dono ka daura daura bhaga bhaga sa khatm ho to rahat mile🤣

I liked how much concerned he Was when she was falling each time. Irrespective that same woman dragged him homr like some aalu ka bora🤣

True. He is full-on lattoo on her.❤️

I liked how he was afraid vulnerable and shivering like abla nari with a thought of him stealing kiss..and maya boldly pointed out☺️

Rudra is at edge...now he is resisting himself because he thinks he belongs to someone else..he was rejected when he camr to maya that day and she took her decision and he took his ..ab kuch nahi ho Sakta..

Mind telling you aise bande bahot dangerous hai..there is only a LOC in every person..if he crossed it...maya wont be able to handle his passion and love...he would screw her with him..she thinks shr is winning..but from where i see..she is in for much bigger lose..

Hallelujah to madam Maya if she manages to handle Rudra's uninhibited and unchained love.

Thanks for the analyse..editors have messed up badly witb the song..so kuch nahi bolna Mujhe...

That 7 villai random turned 8 was wierd...and I don't want to kill my braincell behind finding logic in it.

Cv sucks at thriller like seriously sucks!!!! But atleast they should give us mayra without cut and bad edit...

The song went with the theme of the show. It is dark, so that is the kind of song you can expect in Maya land.

Arre Tiara, itna dukhi nahi hote behen. Hrishikesh me bharpur milega.😉

Itna to banta hai na

Originally posted by: 2019_AnushkaM

Love the analysis.

Thanks @Anushka.😊

I don't want to talk much about Mayra even though they were the highlight 😆everyone is talking about them & I really don't have much to say for them .

Maya looks like become more deadly & focused in her revenge game after Myra's death. She was playing mind games throughout with Rudra . For a change it was interesting to watch .

She looks more focused to me than before .

She is more focused, but it looks like Maya is acting out of heartbreak more than revenge. Her sanak has taken a different turn.

So finally CVS established that there was 7 more people beside MJ in Maya's Destruction. They kind of brought 7 deadly sins.

I have one theory. Maybe the sins which Maya said about those people were actually their reasons to support MJ in her destruction.

The seven sins listed are mostly these people's weaknesses which she needs to use against them. Then only can she break through the seven levels of the chakravyuh safeguarding Mrityunjay Roy.

Anatra ( Lust ) - her ' Moh' / love for MJ made her did things. We already got to know Anatra can do anything for MJ she is extremely depended over him .

Diya ( Envy) - her 'Irsha' her jealously towards Maya maybe ? . I mean it's pretty logical MJ was her bf 😆. She would be jealous " mere boyfriend ke sath gulu gulu karoge tho thopdungi na mein "

Aamir ( Wrath) : his ' Krodh' something made him angry enough. Maybe somehow Maya was hampering MJ's image & Aamir is MJ's right hand tho he definitely would be pissed off with person who messed with his idol

Joghi ( Greed) : his 'Lalach' he is a servant so obviously he wanted to be rich & save his job. So he did out of greed .

Sudhir ( pride) : his pride got hurt somehow. Maybe he tried to Seduce Maya MJ ka hi friend hai tharki hoga hi 🤣. Maya rejected him that hurt his pride .

I think & I hope they bring Dadi back because she will be perfect example of Gluttony . She is an alcoholic so gluttony suits her .

I have my doubts over sloth 🤔 let's see Kon hai yeh .

I really liked Anu's mom. She seemed sensible & understanding one & was talking sense. Wish she could have teach something to this stupid Anu.

Anu's father is strange he knows what & how MJ's family is still okay with his daughter marrying in such family. Anyway kudh bhi konsa Sharif hai 😒😪. Anu ka kuch nahi hosakta I don't have any expectations left 😴.

True. The girl's character has been butchered to no end. Ananya is Sudhir's pride in a way. Breaking her down means breaking Sudhir's pride. Let's see.

Amazing post Sohini 👏

Rudra is still fighting with his feelings. The fencing scene was amazing. It drew direct parallel with the earlier fencing scene. Although Maya was trying to play with his mind the whole time, she did not remain completely unaffected.

And what a laugh! 😲 I loved the part where Maya laughed like a mad woman. She is actually that mad in her obsession with revenge. Rudra and Maya are very similar, Rudra is hiding behind his best friend to not confront his feelings while Maya is drowning her feelings in her plans.

She is actually hurting with Rudra's behavior and is not willing to accept that. Also she knew that to convince him she has to touch his heart not play with his mind, but she still goes ahead with the seduction plan because she cannot touch his heart without getting affected herself.

Ananya ka kya hi bolu.. That building in the start of the epi showed the heights of her delusion. Kisi din Maya waha se dhakka maar degi. 😆 MJ Roy completely brainwashed her to keep her in control. At least he mother can see the truth, but till when? And her dad is in new delusional plane.. no comments about that 😆

Originally posted by: pomegranate

Hi Libby

Just finished watching the episodes.

Hi Pommy!

Haila Maya ne toh bechara rudra ke izzat ka falooda bana diya🤣

poor guy, I was laughing at his state.

Arre ye to kuch bhi nahi hai. Maya ne Rudra bhaiya ka asli roop abhi tak dekha nahi. Dekhegi na, to ye seduction chota pad jayega uske saamne.

Story as usual lacks focus and good execution, but overall it was enjoyable episode mostly because I choose to ignore 90% of the stuff.

Writers have struck gold in Jenny and shivin's chemistry, they can simply stand in the same frame and sparks will fly. when you have such good actors who pretty much combust every time they share the screen, you do not have to show gimmicky scenes like seduction.

Satya vachan👍🏼

Mayra's Fencing scene was so much better because it felt natural, the dialogues were great and they were sexy without trying. I'm thoroughly enjoying this push and pull between them. They are such a hot mess of a couple, who knows no boundaries when they are together but that is what makes them go back to each other over and over again. It has become some sort of a twisted addiction and Marriage to ananya won't change it. Breaking an addiction/obsession is not easy, especially when love is involved.

Maya is using every weapon in her arsenal to bring rudra back to her, except for one--authenticity. it was her vulnerability, the real maya who he fell for so all the sexy games or tugging him around like a toy won't work. Rudra is not rishi, MJ or a typical man. Shallow games will not work with him, but madam is just too twisted to understand simplicity. I still don't get why she is doing this but one can see that rudra's rejection hurts her, she expresses that hurt through anger or insanity. An otherwise poised woman is becoming unhinged because she of rejection. Maya is of course insane, but rudra too has a madness within him that we occasionally see glimpses of. Both of them feel a sense of ownership towards each other, and now it burns her that he is marrying someone else and avoiding her. It came out in the drunken scene, the idiot woman wants rudra for herself but he stupidly dug himself into a hole and now can't get out of it. Somehow Maya will understand her own erratic behaviour, which will lead her to Rishikesh. Then predictably, Rudra will wake up and run after her.😆 when one Pulls away, the other one pushes back. what a psychotic game they are playing.

Exactly, this is not the Maya acting out of revenge, it is her acting out of hurt. She is insane, which is an established fact. But her sanak has taken a different turn, with it not simply being about revenge anymore, her sanak is her desire for Rudra which she knows isn't right for her revenge, but she still wants it. Rudra is consistently pushing her away as the gentleman he is, but he actually does not want to be a gentleman with her. I am just waiting to see the sanak in Rudra in more prominent ways, as it is too subtle to be seen. It is seen in their dress code, where Maya is all dark, but Rudra is white with the darkness within him like the black vest he wore inside his white fencing suit. Maya will understand after tomorrow that she needs to get a grip over herself and rethink her revenge plans. Because obviously, she will not kill Rudra. And what makes Rudra change his mind, is to watch out for.

Maya's Plans still don't make sense, writers need to clarify. If she wants to kill rudra then what is all this nautanki for? does she want him on her side so she doesn't have to Kill him? besides, what would killing him do? it is not like MJ is dying over the loss of rishi, while maya is torturing herself for the past 10 years🤪the pain is not equal. she wants to spill innocent blood but even rudra's death would not have a long lasting impact or cause pain. The entire rishi angle, including his murder looked unnecessary all over again because it achieved nothing but momentary grief. Writers think death and murderous intentions equals darkness, but the show is dark enough without it. Again, it makes me think that rishi's murder at the hands of maya was a sudden decision by the writers. additionally, Maya is unnecessarily getting her hands bloody. This entire MJ clan is so dirty and fickle, that she can easily turn them against one another and watch the destruction unfold without lifting a finger. If writers are smart (unfortunately they are not) they will dump this murder idea because it does not fit with the overall story.

I totally agree with you on this. Tumne mann ki baat phir likh dali, because I have mentioned this in several posts. Exactly, why want Rudra on your side when your plan is to kill him. It does not make sense. And, what did she gain by killing Rishi? Mrityunjay par koi asar to nahi hua. Honestly, mujhe to Mrityunjay aisa aadmi lagta hai jisko Rudra ki maut bhi na hila sake. That is why it is so important that Maya now overcomes her fears and faces the bull by the horns. Kaash Rishi zinda ho jata yaar. Because killing people off is just 0.00001% of darkness. There is so much more that can be shown if the CVs are a little more imaginative. It is a thriller after all, but only with cheap thrills, that too predictable.

Originally posted by: tournesol

Amazing post Sohini 👏

Thanks Tiara😊

Rudra is still fighting with his feelings. The fencing scene was amazing. It drew direct parallel with the earlier fencing scene. Although Maya was trying to play with his mind the whole time, she did not remain completely unaffected.

She is affected hence all this. If she had not been affected, she would have planned something else. Why play mind games with someone who is meant to die at your hands. She wants to kill Rudra on his wedding day, so why take all this trouble. It is her sanak which has taken a new turn with love making an entry beside revenge.

And what a laugh! 😲 I loved the part where Maya laughed like a mad woman. She is actually that mad in her obsession with revenge. Rudra and Maya are very similar, Rudra is hiding behind his best friend to not confront his feelings while Maya is drowning her feelings in her plans.

She honestly needs to get a grip on herself and that is why she will go away to Hrishikesh. She needs to reassess her revenge strategies and her plans because killing is just leaving minimal impact on Mrityunjay. For someone, she intends to destroy, she needs to maximize impact and hence her plans need to move out of the killing spree.

She is actually hurting with Rudra's behavior and is not willing to accept that. Also she knew that to convince him she has to touch his heart not play with his mind, but she still goes ahead with the seduction plan because she cannot touch his heart without getting affected herself.

Exactly!

Ananya ka kya hi bolu.. That building in the start of the epi showed the heights of her delusion. Kisi din Maya waha se dhakka maar degi. 😆 MJ Roy completely brainwashed her to keep her in control. At least he mother can see the truth, but till when? And her dad is in new delusional plane.. no comments about that 😆

Saare ke saare hile hue hai iss family me.

The murder idea is silly PERIOD. no further comments

However The "seduce rudra plan" and "kill rudra plan" are two different things that are not related to each other. The former is her Love and obsession for ONLY rudra, while Kill rudra is part of revenge. She got both of them mixed up in her love drunk brain and now she can't see which way is up. If this is what Cv's are trying to depict that it is quite and interesting and dare i say impressive?

I forgot to mention ananya. it is so bad how I enjoy hating on her, she has become meme material now.

While her character's turn is upsetting, I sort of like it because it shows another aspect of Human behaviour. it is messed up in its own way. Ananya is obviously the younger version of antara (even their names are similar) and on her way to becoming SR. Mrs. roy 30 years later.

Actress Zareena wahab suddenly came to my mind when thinking about ananya today. In case you don't know, Zareena wahab is the wife of Aditya pancholi; a known womanizer, abuser, serial cheater, and a rapist. His wife knows everything about his deeds but still defends him with every breath, and seems to be okay with his cheating as long as he goes home to her( seriously, she said something along these lines in an interview)

While this is an extreme case, Ananya is one of those stupid, blind, delusional woman who will continue living in denial as long as Rudra is hers. If this marriage went through, Ananya will ulta isolate maya or blame her for everything, as if rudra had no part to play in whatever happened. that is what women like her do.

Today she said rudra loves her but uska pyar thoda sa alag hain. LMAO okay ananya. you will definitely see Rudra's alag pyar......but it won't be for you😃