Ep 41: Ateet kabhi bhi laut kar phir aa sakta hai

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Aur aa gaya hai! Sirf Maya nahi lauti hai, aur bahut saare kirdaar laute hai jinhone Maya ke barbaadi ke yagya me apni aahuti di thi...and one of them is Sudhir. It seems that Maya is waiting for all the Kauravs to assemble in one place and then she will hunt them down one by one. Ye to pura naagin ke format me chale gaye ye log.

We have all heard of the Seven Cardinal Sins right. So in this Mahabharat, 7 people signify these seven cardinal sins - Anger as in Krodh (Aamir), Pride as in Ghamand (Sudhir), Greed as in Laalach (Jogi), Lust as in Moh (Antara) and Envy as in Irshya (Diya). Two more people are yet to appear and they represent two more sins - Gluttony and Sloth. Let's see who will it be. Because Maya believes Rudra's death will bring these two also. Let's see how her khooni iraade are fulfilled.

Rudra's Dilemma - I am sorry, but I am still failing to grasp his dilemma, because he initiated this stupidity in the first place, and now emotional hoke is falling even further into this deep ditch. He feels strongly for Maya, he is in love with her and yet he is not just pushing himself into a loveless marriage, he is giving wrong hopes to Ananya. And this will go on and hamper his friendship with her, which he can't see.

Ananya's delusion - Why are they butchering her every damn day? She comes off as totally loony to me now. Who was she trying to convince? Her mom or herself? Ananya to dosti nibhaane se rahi, and we can see how strong her dosti is. She did not take a minute to suspect Rudra of sleeping with someone else. Yes, I agree those marks aren't of fencing. But my dear, he is your best friend, shouldn't you give him the benefit of doubt just once. You don't trust Maya, fair enough, but you do not trust your best friend also? The guy is suppressing his feelings to respect the commitment he has given to you. Doesn't he deserve the respect of trust?

Ananya's parents - I don't know if they are really Mrityunjay's family friends or just being plain sarcastic all the time. The way Ananya's mom was taunting Mrityunjay for taking away Ananya from them and deciding everything on her behalf, the way Sudhir called Mrityunjay as Ananya's "Dusra Baap" came off to me as less love and more sarcasm. So Ananya's mom doesn't like the Roy family. Hallelujah, koi to hai jisme dimaag hai, kyunki beti ka to melt hokar kaan se nikal gaya hai. And Sudhir, uski dosti ka bhi jawaab nahi - anyone will hurt Ananya and he will spill Mrityunjay's dirty secrets?? Lagta hai iss khandaan me "Dosti" ke asli maayne kisiko nahi pata. Baap dosti ke aad me dushmani ke games khelta hai and beti dosti ke naam pe pyaar ke games. Full-on entertaining family.🤪 Only the mom, looked and sounded sane. And I am sure, this Mrityunjay has been the catalyst to feed Ananya such delusional dreams of being Mrs. Rudra Roy because frankly, her parents would be much happy if she chooses anyone else but Rudra.

Maya's mayajaal - Well enough has been spoken of Maya's seductive dance and luring in Rudra into her trap. But honestly, the way she was giggling in the beginning, sach me satak gayi hai uski. 🤪She is plain and simple trying to push Rudra to accept his feelings, which he isn't. Keeping the revenge bit aside, what she was doing tonight is basically expressing what she feels for him. The drunken bit came across as genuine to me, even though it was planned. But Rudra being the man he is, he will not fall so easily into the mayajaal. That pool scene is probably when Rudra blasts Maya. Because Maya was full-on planning to kill him at his wedding. He must have said things or done things that made Maya go back on her plans. Because she consistently questions him why isn't he calling off this wedding and accepting his love. I am sure he will give her his reasons, which might move Maya, which might give Maya the much-needed pause to rethink her plans - as in she may not kill him, but she will devise other plans to destroy the 7 people who destroyed her 10 years ago. The marriage part with Rudra sounds very unplanned, like the on-the-go plans she makes every time, something like that.

Well, all in all, a good episode. Rajiv was equally good and his timing, mashallah👍🏼. Let's see what twist makers are planning this week. I guess the Hrishikesh track goes on air next week.

That from me tonight. Let's hear yours

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Hi Libby

Just finished watching the episodes.


Haila Maya ne toh bechara rudra ke izzat ka falooda bana diya🤣

poor guy, I was laughing at his state.



Story as usual lacks focus and good execution, but overall it was enjoyable episode mostly because I choose to ignore 90% of the stuff.


Writers have struck gold in Jenny and shivin's chemistry, they can simply stand in the same frame and sparks will fly. when you have such good actors who pretty much combust every time they share the screen, you do not have to show gimmicky scenes like seduction.


Mayra's Fencing scene was so much better because it felt natural, the dialogues were great and they were sexy without trying. I'm thoroughly enjoying this push and pull between them. They are such a hot mess of a couple, who knows no boundaries when they are together but that is what makes them go back to each other over and over again. It has become some sort of a twisted addiction and Marriage to ananya won't change it. Breaking an addiction/obsession is not easy, especially when love is involved.


Maya is using every weapon in her arsenal to bring rudra back to her, except for one--authenticity. it was her vulnerability, the real maya who he fell for so all the sexy games or tugging him around like a toy won't work. Rudra is not rishi, MJ or a typical man. Shallow games will not work with him, but madam is just too twisted to understand simplicity. I still don't get why she is doing this but one can see that rudra's rejection hurts her, she expresses that hurt through anger or insanity. An otherwise poised woman is becoming unhinged because she of rejection. Maya is of course insane, but rudra too has a madness within him that we occasionally see glimpses of. Both of them feel a sense of ownership towards each other, and now it burns her that he is marrying someone else and avoiding her. It came out in the drunken scene, the idiot woman wants rudra for herself but he stupidly dug himself into a hole and now can't get out of it. Somehow Maya will understand her own erratic behaviour, which will lead her to Rishikesh. Then predictably, Rudra will wake up and run after her.😆 when one Pulls away, the other one pushes back. what a psychotic game they are playing.



Maya's Plans still don't make sense, writers need to clarify. If she wants to kill rudra then what is all this nautanki for? does she want him on her side so she doesn't have to Kill him? besides, what would killing him do? it is not like MJ is dying over the loss of rishi, while maya is torturing herself for the past 10 years🤪the pain is not equal. she wants to spill innocent blood but even rudra's death would not have a long lasting impact or cause pain. The entire rishi angle, including his murder looked unnecessary all over again because it achieved nothing but momentary grief. Writers think death and murderous intentions equals darkness, but the show is dark enough without it. Again, it makes me think that rishi's murder at the hands of maya was a sudden decision by the writers. additionally, Maya is unnecessarily getting her hands bloody. This entire MJ clan is so dirty and fickle, that she can easily turn them against one another and watch the destruction unfold without lifting a finger. If writers are smart (unfortunately they are not) they will dump this murder idea because it does not fit with the overall story.

Edited by pomegranate - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Great analysis. Agree about the 7 sins being mentioned.

The scene that made the episode for me was the fencing scene. It was Rudras set up and Maya came to him. But as always he played on front foot, openly. He was in white and demonstrated light. No matter the darkness around him, nothing can dim his light. Such a great contrast to Maya who is in black and took Rudra to her dark alley. Their conversation in the fencing had few foreshadow. Like Maya saying main to marr jaungi lekin meri yadein nahi, re-emphasising that no matter what Maya will always be part of his memories. Then Maya asking why Rudy was blocking instead of attacking and him saying coz am not Maya JaiSingh, reiterating that Rudy will never let Maya change him. But the dialogue that stood out was Maya saying, tum mujhse kabhi azadi nahi paoge and Rudra saying main kabhi qaid tha hi nahi..!! These two will make a fiery couple.

The seduction scene was awesome but the dialogue thereafter were what again stood out. Drunk or not Maya always gets emotional around Rudy and reveals her vulnerable side(willing or unwillingly).

Her pain was visible when she said, pyaar karne ki galti kari hai to nibhane ki himmat to dikhao.. She wants him to admit his love and be her strength. Right now his resistance is making her weak.

I found Sudhirs shadiness quite intriguing. MJ surely has made enough enemies. Matter of time Maya breaks one enemy after another.

Btw a fun thing of how Vishnu on Prahlads prayers in Narsimha avatar had used his claws on Hiranyakashipu but here Maya is only using her claws to remove MJs evil touch on Rudra.

Btw does Nandini wear a invisibility cloak?Thoroughly enjoyable episode.

Edited by Armu4eva - 6 years ago
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@libran as I said chakravyuha is 7 layers and today they showed 7 ppl .each of them represent each layer and each has a weakness.the weakness needs to be used to hunt down each of them. And those sins are their weakness which Maya will use to hunt them down.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Todays epi for me was a treat as a MayRa fan ... fencing + dance plus precap everything.. I was watching with bated breath 😆.. mondays epi was like a foundation and by Thursday it leaves u with something totally unexpected..


Firstly for Maya to fight her war she needs to be a part of the war.. even Krishna had to be a part of the war and direct arjuna and make strategies inside the war zone.. killing off Rudra can only hurt MJ for now.. but for this war she needs her fighter and probably that's what might change her mind..

Her feelings for Rudra already surfaced and we know how.. but she went back to square one with myra incident.. but the foundation has already formed.. and now the story actually takes a start with Maya coming into Roy house and this foundation will play its role further on..


Mayas laughter was a laugh of losing her plan.. because Rudra changed his mind and her plan zoned out.. with him her plans will always zone out.. now she is trying another way around with him.. he blocked her away.. I am sure something went for a toss in her plan and why she left to rishikesh making Rudra follow her and even there too something went for a toss and so marriage happened.. even with hate, ur destiny will find it's way wether u want or not..


Rudra and Maya both are stuck into a zone.. For Rudra he wants to know what Maya wants that's it.. had she said that she loves him, he will leave and come to her and guess that's what happens at the end.. same with Maya what he saying Rudra is not wrong.. he is doing a mess marrying Ananya.. I do wanna see MayRa emotionally connecting but I think it will be not so soon from Mayas end.. it might be eventually only..


The fencing is where they started .. the first hate, the first challenge and now the first confession.. first time Rudra was hurt intentionally but ended up discovering her, second time he was defeated he rose over it by winning her challenge and third time he fought hard but let go in the end but will he let go of Maya and his love in real?


How does Maya plan to kill Rudra? May be by making him break this wedding and sudhir kills him 🤔.. God knows..I couldn't connect the dots of her plan..


Rest the seductive part was good.. I already saw that video zillion times since morning 😆.. so I was already done with it.. 😆


Precap and pool again part is to show Ananya only.. let's see what is it about..

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Let me begin..

I practically pressed skip 60 sec when ananya and uski nautanki family came..it was torture to my eyes..so i wont speak about them

What i liked is rudra is acting like normal male...he felt rejected..he is having bhaaav and since maya is chasing him..he is running from her

The moment she runs he will chase..typical!


I liked how much concerned he Was when she was falling each time. Irrespective that same woman dragged him homr like some aalu ka bora🤣


I liked how he was afraid vulnerable and shivering like abla nari with a thought of him stealing kiss..and maya boldly pointed out☺️


Rudra is at edge...now he is resisting himself because he thinks he belongs to someone else..he was rejected when he camr to maya that day and she took her decision and he took his ..ab kuch nahi ho Sakta..


Mind telling you aise bande bahot dangerous hai..there is only a LOC in every person..if he crossed it...maya wont be able to handle his passion and love...he would screw her with him..she thinks shr is winning..but from where i see..she is in for much bigger lose..



Thanks for the analyse..editors have messed up badly witb the song..so kuch nahi bolna Mujhe...

That 7 villai random turned 8 was wierd...and I don't want to kill my braincell behind finding logic in it.

Cv sucks at thriller like seriously sucks!!!! But atleast they should give us mayra without cut and bad edit...


Itna to banta hai na

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Love the analysis.

I don't want to talk much about Mayra even though they were the highlight 😆everyone is talking about them & I really don't have much to say for them .

Maya looks like become more deadly & focused in her revenge game after Myra's death. She was playing mind games throughout with Rudra . For a change it was interesting to watch .

She looks more focused to me than before .

So finally CVS established that there was 7 more people beside MJ in Maya's Destruction. They kind of brought 7 deadly sins.

I have one theory. Maybe the sins which Maya said about those people were actually their reasons to support MJ in her destruction.


Anatra ( Lust ) - her ' Moh' / love for MJ made her did things. We already got to know Anatra can do anything for MJ she is extremely depended over him .


Diya ( Envy) - her 'Irsha' her jealously towards Maya maybe ? . I mean it's pretty logical MJ was her bf 😆. She would be jealous " mere boyfriend ke sath gulu gulu karoge tho thopdungi na mein "


Aamir ( Wrath) : his ' Krodh' something made him angry enough. Maybe somehow Maya was hampering MJ's image & Aamir is MJ's right hand tho he definitely would be pissed off with person who messed with his idol


Joghi ( Greed) : his 'Lalach' he is a servant so obviously he wanted to be rich & save his job. So he did out of greed .


Sudhir ( pride) : his pride got hurt somehow. Maybe he tried to Seduce Maya MJ ka hi friend hai tharki hoga hi 🤣. Maya rejected him that hurt his pride .

I think & I hope they bring Dadi back because she will be perfect example of Gluttony . She is an alcoholic so gluttony suits her .

I have my doubts over sloth 🤔 let's see Kon hai yeh .


I really liked Anu's mom. She seemed sensible & understanding one & was talking sense. Wish she could have teach something to this stupid Anu.

Anu's father is strange he knows what & how MJ's family is still okay with his daughter marrying in such family. Anyway kudh bhi konsa Sharif hai 😒😪. Anu ka kuch nahi hosakta I don't have any expectations left 😴.

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Originally posted by: pomegranate

Hi Libby

Can't comment as I'm out right now and won't be home until later. Will update in the evening.

Koi nahi pommy! baad me comments dena yaar. Take your time

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Armu4eva

Great analysis. Agree about the 7 sins being mentioned.

Thanks, @Armu4eva.😊

The scene that made the episode for me was the fencing scene. It was Rudras set up and Maya came to him. But as always he played on front foot, openly. He was in white and demonstrated light. No matter the darkness around him, nothing can dim his light. Such a great contrast to Maya who is in black and took Rudra to her dark alley. Their conversation in the fencing had few foreshadow. Like Maya saying main to marr jaungi lekin meri yadein nahi, re-emphasising that no matter what Maya will always be part of his memories. Then Maya asking why Rudy was blocking instead of attacking and him saying coz am not Maya JaiSingh, reiterating that Rudy will never let Maya change him. But the dialogue that stood out was Maya saying, tum mujhse kabhi azadi nahi paoge and Rudra saying main kabhi qaid tha hi nahi..!! These two will make a fiery couple.

There is a continuous edgy push and pull between Maya and Rudra. The problem is Maya is always doing tashanbaazi with him. Arre it's okay to be normally sanki also, kaunsa hamesha ladaka banke tani rehti hai Maya. Anyway, kal ke episode ke baad pata chalega, ke Maya deviji ke plans badal kyun gaye aur Rudra dev commitment karke peeche kyun sarak gaye. But jo bhi ho, iss wajah se, there will be big drama between Mrityunjay and Sudhir. Dono ki so-called friendship tey bol jayegi.

The seduction scene was awesome but the dialogue thereafter were what again stood out. Drunk or not Maya always gets emotional around Rudy and reveals her vulnerable side(willing or unwillingly).

Exactly, she looked drunk, but what she told him was like a heart hurt by love speaking out.

Her pain was visible when she said, pyaar karne ki galti kari hai to nibhane ki himmat to dikhao.. She wants him to admit his love and be her strength. Right now his resistance is making her weak.

@bold applies to Maya as well.

I found Sudhirs shadiness quite intriguing. MJ surely has made enough enemies. Matter of time Maya breaks one enemy after another.

Btw a fun thing of how Vishnu on Prahlads prayers in Narsimha avatar had used his claws on Hiranyakashipu but here Maya is only using her claws to remove MJs evil touch on Rudra.

Btw does Nandini wear a invisibility cloak?Thoroughly enjoyable episode.

It was an okay episode for me. Because I am looking forward to mostly Hrishikesh

Edited by libran90 - 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: shruthiravi

@libran as I said chakravyuha is 7 layers and today they showed 7 ppl .each of them represent each layer and each has a weakness.the weakness needs to be used to hunt down each of them. And those sins are their weakness which Maya will use to hunt them down.

Samajh gayi. That Maya now has to break down every level of the chakravyuh to isolate and hunt down Mrityunjay Roy. And she will take Rudra's help for that. But what is irking me is the sudden change of plans. What happened so drastic that Maya did not kill Rudra? And how di Rudra call off this wedding?

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