Ep 35: Itni insaniyat nahi dikhaungi, to kya fark hai mujhme aur MJ me

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Posted: 6 years ago
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I know, many people are laughing at the paradox of insaniyat that Maya was talking about tonight with Rajiv. But we cannot judge this from a normal perspective here. We have to see from the perspective which is now normal to Mrityunjay and Maya. The toxicity, the darkness is what guides their actions. And considering the level of darkness that resides in both, then yes Maya still has 'insaniyat' and a 'conscience' which Mrityunjay never really had. On that note, I will begin this post and elaborate further.

MayRa's connect - Pain connects them. It is pain of loss, of the burden they bore on their back of their dead brothers whom they practically raised, pain which is like a free access pass to their hearts. Maya for some reason has never been 'acting' in front of Rudra. Even when she tries, the mask just slips. So she can carry on this charade of not feeling a thing for Rudra and trying to be different from Mrityunjay, but that train has passed. You have begun to feel differently for Rudra and that is something which will continuously push her to change her course of the game out of the darkness and push it more towards the light, till Karma comes and takes a bite off her past actions. Rajiv and Nandini are big-time MayRa shippers. They continuously try to show Maya her true feelings, which like Rudra, is hell-bent on not seeing.

Rajiv's voice of reason - Oh how I love this man! I love him from the beginning of his entry. I have always got only friendly and brotherly vibes from him. And how much ever Maya pushes him away, Rajiv is not here to budge. He did not know, but he had guessed that Rishi's death was facilitated by Maya, but did not anticipate that she had a direct hand in it. Maya tries to act all tough in front of him, and Rajiv is visibly shaken by the turn of events. For him, it was just teaching Mrityunjay a lesson, not killing anyone. And that is where he finally asks the question, "Maya, the nation wants to know" why kill the boy. So her stoic answer is that they killed my child, I will make all of them pay - Mrityunjay, Antara, Diya, Aamir, Jogi, everyone. I am sorry, but there is more to this 'child theory' and I am not willing to buy it. So he kind of knows that the next target will be Rudra. But now, fortunately, we have someone here who can show her the mirror, who will stick with her through thick and thin, and the way he said that "Main Maya ke liye mar bhi sakta hu" although very ominous, but what Nandini told Rajiv sounds encouraging that "Bhai ka kaam sirf behen ki raksha karna nahi, galat karne se rokna bhi hai." So let's see, do Rajiv, Nandini, Rudra and hasti masti Maya breathing inside her manage to bring Maya towards the light or Maya in her obsession lets the darkness consume her. We have to wait and watch.

Ananya's insecurity - So, what I saw today, was a severe butchering of a character that took off so well. I had hoped that Ananya would not turn into a Saanjh 2.0, but now it seems that Saanjh was better than Ananya. Saanjh always thought of Arjun's feelings first before her own, which always earned her disrespect and humiliation by Arjun, but what Ananya did today cannot even be compared. Like I said yesterday, Ananya cannot let go of her greed to marry Rudra. Hence the day Rudra proposed Ananya, she practically switched off the friendship button and turned on the possessive love-hungry woman switch on. Ananya as a friend, her priority should have been to see that Rudra is okay, why is it so important for her to think that Rudra can only be okay with her? Keeping aside growing feelings, as a person, we can have many friends - some are music buddies, some are coffee buddies, and some are listener buddies with whom we share our feelings. But Ananya thinks that it is her right that being Rudra's 'best friend' means that she should be entitled to everything that belongs to Rudra. This is not the friend, but the lover in her talking. The friend would have understood, lover is looking for answers. And most importantly, is this the time to discuss her rights on him? Dude, the guy lost his brother? You claim he was a brother-figure to you, then why did your rights take priority over your love for the kid? I am sorry, in this drama without a bitter fallout there is no way Maya and Rudra will be together, and going by the looks of it, Ananya is inadvertently helping Maya.

Darkness Within - So as I mentioned in the beginning, darkness is something that we will never understand or embrace. We are normal people who think normally. But Maya and Mrityunjay, they are dark. Darkness is a way of life for them. What may appear abnormal to us is perfectly normal for them - like killing people. It is like another day in their life. So in their context, if we weigh their conscience and insaniyat, then Maya fares better than Mrityunjay. Mrityunjay will destroy or kill anyone without batting an eyelid. Maya, on the other hand, was whimpering, crying, regretting. According to Maya, the only way to beat Mrityunjay at his own game is drowning into the same darkness that Mrityunjay has in himself, and once you understand his darkness, you can tackle him using his methods - remaining anonymous, attacking with different faces from the shadows - psychologically dark and murderous. But even then, execution of this darkness is really very shoddy. It needs to be more firm, crisp, clean and explosive in a subtle way. Additionally, Maya is still a bachcha in front of Mrityunjay when it comes to being dark. There are always chances for her plans to falter because her positive core conflicts with the darkness, which Mrityunjay does not have. The more she executes gruesome acts, her conscience will get dirtier, whereas Mrityunjay's conscience is clean, because he hasn't ever used it.

DiMrit connection - I think this was something which we were all expecting, and that is why Mrityunjay's mom cannot tolerate her. I mean the garbage bin is cleaner than the garbage this family has hidden in the corners of the room. How sick is this man? How can a woman put up as a keep in the house for 30 years? And what is Antara doing for so long? It isn't possible for Antara to be so blind, no woman can be. And is there a chance that Rishi is their son? The way she said, "Hamara Rishi" rang many bells in my mind. And for once Mrityunjay was more human with Diya than he has been till now. And I guess the more the Roy family is exposed, the more we are going to have to witness such sick instances. I think Maya is aware of this. Main to bolti hu, ghar me ghuso, sab ka kachcha chittha kholo Rudra ke saamne aur ek dusre ke saath hi cheer phaar karne chod do. Anyway, let's see how further the story progresses.

Precap - So both the Roys are out for the girl, and Ananya finds a drawing in Rishi's room and probably Rishi's phone (which Rajiv is supposed to nick for Maya) which lands her on the correct gf - Maya. But if you ask me, that was not out of her love for Rishi, it was out of love and insecurity for Rudra, and that is what will drive her away from Rudra. Her friendship always kept Rudra beside her, but her love will push him towards Maya. The drawing or sketch he made for Maya is not proof that she was his girlfriend. Did he write anything on that? How can Ananya act so stupid? She should use her brain before going and attacking Maya. Anyone will think that she is acting out of jealousy. I am feeling confident she is. And further going, she has become a potential Mrityunjay-ally.

Well, that is my thoughts for tonight. Let's hear yours

Edited by libran90 - 6 years ago

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Posted: 6 years ago
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" You will find that if you look for the light you can often find it, but if you look for the dark.. that is all you will ever see "


Nothing better defines Maya than this. Despite seeing how madly Rudra is in love with her, how much he needs her, how well they connect thru the shared bond of pain, and how good he is, all she can think of is eliminating him for being MJs son. She was right when she said "kabhi kabhi sahi log galat waqt par mil jate hain" (Rudra entering Mayas life) aur "kabhi kabhi galat log sahi waqt par" (Maya entering Rudras life).

Such a tragedy. Quite a parallel also to Rajeev- Maya conversation. Where he offered to be a part of her life, protect her like a brother, and give his life to save her. But all Maya chose to react on was that Rajeevs death is of no use to her.

Coming to the MayRa scenes. Rudra is so vulnerable and emotionally dependent on Maya. It was interesting to see Maya give Rudra a major hint tonight telling him indirectly that he could touch her coz they were binded to each other thru pain. I liked that. She knows his touch is always honest.

But before this makers gave us a symbolic moment with Rudra saying that he wont let MJ reach Rishis gf and stand as a shield for her. Maya visibly relaxed hearing that. Her wazir was at her service ready to protect her.

Another symbolic moment was Nandini giving Maya the raksha dhaga specifically meant for Rudra. Aah the paradox. The killer has to give the source of divine protection to her victim. Well done writers.

The Diya-MJ scene was way too intimate and had me shocked but not surprised. I see discussion about Rishi being MJ-Diyas son. I don't think so. She said "hamara Rishi" That's coz she is de facto Mrs. MJ and so what's his is hers.

The MJ-Diya-Antara and Rudra-Maya-Ananya parallel got my attention today. I wonder what the cvs plan.

Also Anu is starting to get way pushy than needed and as u rightly said it will only force Rudra towards Maya. I tho loved her suspecting Maya as soon as she saw Rishis painting. But her constantly complaining to Rudra about Maya will only make Rudra dismiss her concern as jealousy. Hope cvs don't ruin Anu more and more.

Well overall a great week of high voltage drama. Looking forward to next.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Wonderful analysis!! 👏 Seriously, this Maya is such a gone case sometimes I feel like banging her head to make way for some sense into her empty bheja. It's like life has given her such a golden opportunity to start fresh but she would rather prefer to live in the past and die everyday crying like a human hose pipe over what she lost and what has been snatched from her.. You'd think jaan ke badle jaan would give her some ounce of sukoon she talks about.. but all it gave her was guilt and more tears..and very soon fear of getting caught will add to her list of misery.. MJ will be after her in full force..Ananya will start her part time detectivegiri soon for her own reasons..That painting of Maya which Rishi drew..how come that didnt ring a bell for MJ earlier when he was in the hunt for Rishi's gf.. It is not a masterpiece but it does have some resemblance with Maya, not only this one but the version MJ knew..ok not sure why Rudra has taken it upon himself to protect Rishi's gf.. why isnt it crossing his mind even once, that if this girl was really in love with his brother why didnt she showup for his funeral or even afterwords..most importantly why did she leave Rishi dying alone on the terrace? Love, love, love Rajeev! though Maya doesn't give him the love and respect he deserves, I hope he is there to show her the mirror from time to time and also be the voice of conscience that she so desperately tries to suffocate..as far as MJDiya go or DiMrit, sounds more like dimwit🤣pata tha sabko ..today its out in the open.I mean for us viewers

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I totally see where Maya's twisted mind lies, but I'm not convinced by it or her diabolical crusade. Maybe there is some humanity left in maya, but enough. MJ is depraved and Maya's on her way to that level of depravity. whatever conscience is left inside her is worthless. Had the execution been better, maybe I would still understand her but who knows. Rishi's murder just screwed over everything.


Maya's Narcissism was on full display during the scene with rajeev. It will be very easy, won't it maya? just like you killed rishi, you would do the same with rudra. however, Rudra will become maya's biggest weakness and perhaps force her to put her sword down. I'm looking forward to the time when she won't be able to point her gun at him even though she wants to. Not only will her conscience surface but her love for him will overwhelm all her other emotions, but then it will be too late. Maya will fall flat on her face one day.

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Originally posted by: pomegranate

I totally see where Maya's twisted mind lies, but I'm not convinced by it or her diabolical crusade. Maybe there is some humanity left in maya, but enough. MJ is depraved and Maya's on her way to that level of depravity. whatever conscience is left inside her is worthless. Had the execution been better, maybe I would still understand her but who knows. Rishi's murder just screwed over everything.


Maya's Narcissism was on full display during the scene with rajeev. It will be very easy, won't it maya? just as like you killed rishi, you would do the same with rudra. however, Rudra will become maya's biggest weakness and perhaps force her to put her sword down. I'm looking forward to the time when she won't be able to point her gun at him even though she wants to. Not only will her conscience surface but her love for him will overwhelm all her other emotions, but then it will be too late. Maya will fall flat on her face one day.


It's funny isn't it when a murderer who just took an innocent life, also in the manner in which she took his life, turns around and says I still have humanity left in me?? If that bachi kuchi humanity allowed her to kill Rishi, I dread the day she will lose it all! because with each life she takes from here on, be it Antara, Diya or even Rudra(though I dont see that happening so soon), she will lose whatever is left of humanity in her.. The only time we get a sneak peak into that humane side of her, that still cares, is when she is with her mother and now Rudra..btw what was she doing looking at Rudra's picture on the laptop? to me it seemed she was lost in his thoughts rather than trying to focus on her ''next target''.. God!! Rudra just needs to grab her and kiss her hard and not stop to make her forget all this revenge drama🤣

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Posted: 6 years ago
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u r such incredible👏

i'm so speechless with ur analysis❤️

all i want is mayra get together & punish MJ fr his deeds

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At the moment as a viewer it is actually laughable how Maya can still consider that she has any Insaniyat left in her. But the time will tell, if she will be able to let go of her revenge for someone else. When she will prioritize someone's happiness more than her pain she will be able to prove that she and MJ are totally different however same they seem to appear.

MayRa's connect - .

True she can't act in front of him and she did try a lot to distance herself from him same as him. But their pain and their mutual hatred towards MJ has connected them directly and indirectly. But their hatred has made them Biased them too. Maya can't see above her revenge and Rudra can't see another side of coin of Rishi's murder. They both have to come in light actually with the help of each other. Its very important that they start seeing things from others perspective too. Their path can be constructive only if let it be otherwise mutual destruction is the only end.

Rajiv's voice of reason -

Rajiv has been my fav character too from the beginning. He questioned Maya and understood her too without completely knowing her backstory. How they were planning without the actual backstory? There has to be more than just hatred for MJ that binds them. How can Rajiv trust her blindly after betrayal of MJ? There is more to their bond and i hope they show us more of them. Maya has both hare bhare khaith and banjar zameen in front of her. All that is stopping her is the hurt and pain and her will not to live for herself but revenge.

She looked like a small lost child when she was trying to grab Rudra's hand from behind. She craves the peace but a large part of her is stopping her to live peaceful happy life.

Ananya's insecurity -

Ananya is really stepping in the role of Saanjh. Her every finger points at Maya for every single thing. Her jealously too has made her blind. If she was the best friend I hoped her to be, her main concern would have been to help Rudra and protect him from all evil including MJ and Maya both. She can't see any fault in MJ and she can't see any good in Maya. This thinking will destroy her and her relationship with Rudra. I did say once that if she only wanted the support and trust from Rudra than she wouldn't have accepted his proposal. She had his trust and his support as a friend. She always craved the physical connection too not just emotional. Him agreeing to marry has not anyway entitled Ananya to prison him with her. She is asking questions and they are good one but she is not asking the real questions as those will break her dreams. She being selfish just like Maya. Both wants what they have decided for themselves long ago, one revenge another lover's place. Rudra will be the one destroyed in the process.


Her timing was really pathetic. See the situation girl, someone just committed 'suicide'. She should be more worried about Rudra's mental state than anything else. If he can find peace with Maya than let him. If he is yours you will get him and if he is not than you won't have him even if keeping him trapped with you. She was smart and now lost all light bulbs in her brain. 🤪

How can she ask for friendship haq when she herself easily left that place to grab the lover one?


Darkness Within -

I just can't see that big evil and malice side of MJ yet. He hasn't done anything. They are not really diving in his character. What is the point of having him against Maya if we can't even be afraid of him? All has been just talks till now. His power is not backed. Amir is just wastage of space. They should start showing his dark side excluding past with Maya. He must have done wrong to others, no? Show those scenes atleast.


DiMrit connection - I think this was something which we were all expecting, and that is why Mrityunjay's mom cannot tolerate her. I mean the garbage bin is cleaner than the garbage this family has hidden in the corners of the room. How sick is this man? How can a woman put up as a keep in the house for 30 years? And what is Antara doing for so long? It isn't possible for Antara to be so blind, no woman can be. And is there a chance that Rishi is their son? The way she said, "Hamara Rishi" rang many bells in my mind. And for once Mrityunjay was more human with Diya than he has been till now. And I guess the more the Roy family is exposed, the more we are going to have to witness such sick instances. I think Maya is aware of this. Main to bolti hu, ghar me ghuso, sab ka kachcha chittha kholo Rudra ke saamne aur ek dusre ke saath hi cheer phaar karne chod do. Anyway, let's see how further the story progresses.

Yeah it was no shocker that MJ and Diya are romantically involved. I think these three: MJ, Diya and Antara were in same college and DiMrit plan to have power and business through Antara. Their bond seems deeply connected through trials and evilness 😆. Diya was completely involved in all wrongdoings of MJ. I also think Rishi was their child and they passed him on as Antara's for legality.

Mind games will work much better to destroy MJ than murders, but writers sunenge nahi 🤪

If Maya's endgame is to kill them all and die in the end than why all revenge drama. What is the need of all this stupidity? Planning h nahi or revenge lena h. Ananya is on direct path to her friendship destruction and i am sure she is gonna blame Maya for that too. Rudra won't stand for irrationality and jealously. Atleast she had trust when she was friend to Rudra and relationship based on no love will always grow into jealousy, didn't she know? She was supposed to be smart and unbiased.


I am not sure MJ and Maya had lovers relationship. Maybe she find out about MJ and Diya and that lead to her and her family destruction. Baki kya pta writers ki mahima.


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Another good analysis. Diya and mj how did antara put up with this. But as you rightly said I was also not shocked. Rajiv and ananya I hav made a post for them but haan ananya in her love and jealousy is gonna lose the friend and of course she will be with mj as mj pawn due to her insecurity. Maya wants to be dark but she can't be mj as she has conscience which mj doesn't hav. If she needs to win she needs to accept her true self which is not darkness but light she needs to be true to herself only then she can win. Trying to be mj tryin to kill her conscience she will lose
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Your analysis always upto I'm done with Maya's insaaniyat talk she may be less talk of the topic but yeah Maya never has insaaniyat in bh1 as well.. so I'm used of this


I Njoy Rajiv scenes with Maya or with her mother but yes he saath of killer even after knowing also offered be her brother that's really a sweet things wish he remained like this


Ananya it's making of another saanjh but still i okay like i never liked saanjh

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: MistyDawn

Wonderful analysis!! 👏 Seriously, this Maya is such a gone case sometimes I feel like banging her head to make way for some sense into her empty bheja. It's like life has given her such a golden opportunity to start fresh but she would rather prefer to live in the past and die everyday crying like a human hose pipe over what she lost and what has been snatched from her.. You'd think jaan ke badle jaan would give her some ounce of sukoon she talks about.. but all it gave her was guilt and more tears..and very soon fear of getting caught will add to her list of misery.. MJ will be after her in full force..Ananya will start her part time detectivegiri soon for her own reasons..That painting of Maya which Rishi drew..how come that didnt ring a bell for MJ earlier when he was in the hunt for Rishi's gf.. It is not a masterpiece but it does have some resemblance with Maya, not only this one but the version MJ knew..ok not sure why Rudra has taken it upon himself to protect Rishi's gf.. why isnt it crossing his mind even once, that if this girl was really in love with his brother why didnt she showup for his funeral or even afterwords..most importantly why did she leave Rishi dying alone on the terrace? Love, love, love Rajeev! though Maya doesn't give him the love and respect he deserves, I hope he is there to show her the mirror from time to time and also be the voice of conscience that she so desperately tries to suffocate..as far as MJDiya go or DiMrit, sounds more like dimwit🤣pata tha sabko ..today its out in the open.I mean for us viewers

Thanks @MistyDawn😊. Appreciate it.

Frankly, sab ki akal ghaas charne gayi hai. Ek to Mrityunjay ke naak ke neeche Rishi has made a drawing and no one saw. Not even his father.

Aamir ko bhai bhai bolkar, sar pe chada rakha hai. Aaj tak usne kiya kya hai. Ek ladki dhundne ki chakkar me, the kid died, and he is still searching.

And Ananya, jab akal par jealousy ka parda padta hai na, tab saare kaam ulte pad jate hai. That girl is not driving Maya away for the good of Rishi or Roy family, it is to appease her anxiety about Rudra's growing feelings, which she and Rudra don't want to face. I am telling you, sooner the relationship will take a bitter turn. First, Ananya never supported Rudra against Mrityunjay which Maya did, second she was justifying her pain of being second choice over his pain about Rishi, which Maya appeased. They are just few more incidents away from falling out on each other.

Porus me ek dialogue tha jo Puru ne apni ma se kaha tha, "Baar baar shikayat karne se sunne wale ke mann me hamare liye shaq hone lagta hai." Ananya ka haal kuch aisa hi hoga.

Edited by libran90 - 6 years ago

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