Wouldn't want Abir Rajvansh as A Life-Partner for a girl like Mishti.

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I wouldn't want Abir Rajvansh as Mishti's life-Partner ...or the Rajvansh family as her new family/home.


I strongly believe that being together, being there for each other during the good-times is simply not enough. It's the bad days, the absolutely horrible days that count. Those are the days when you need that one person who you can rely upon/count on. One should be able to hear the unspoken words; those said when the rest of the world sees you standing in silence -that is what truly matters AND Sadly Abir has failed Mishti in that aspect on several occasions.


My statement that I wouldn't want Abir for Mishti does not come for a place of malign or contempt. The man has a good heart - It's just that I just believe a girl like Mishti deserves someone who values her, cherishes her, who would safeguard her spirit and zest for life - EVEN AFTER COMING FROM A BROKEN FAMILY, who knows what he has when she is in his life.


I did see small bursts of these things here and there but it's simply not enough.


Because when she needed him the most, when THEIR relationship needed him the most - Abir Failed!


When Abir's hand was forced by Meenakshi, when he was asked to choose between Kunal & Mishti - He chose Kunal. He chose his brother- NO QUALMS about it. Meenakshi was dancing on his head like a devil unleashed - he just did what he thought would stop the dancing.


But the fact that he did not feel the need to explain to Mishti; tht he dismissed her, that he chose to break her heart..her trust in the most brutal manner (Saying all the crap that she comes from a Broken Family) just shows how weak he is. Sorry, but doing what Abir did is WEAK in my view. It's fighting for your love, finding a way when there is NONE that actually qualifies as strong. But Abir didn't resort to any.


And now once again, Abir has chosen the easy route - Initially he believed Mishti must have had a reason to tell Kunal that he is not a Rajvansh (BTW, Totally didn't agree with Mishti here. No matter what the circumstances). But sadly the life-span of his belief...his faith lasted less than one would have hoped.


Abir hears just a part of the conversation and believes that Mishti did what she did out of spite to intentionally hurt Kunal. He then does not give her a second of his time; SURE there were other variables that came into play as well BUT Abir just gives her a piece of his mind & walks away.


But then if you think about it when has Abir shown that unfaltering faith in Mishti or their relationship like Mishti has?


Mishti's faith does not allow her to think even for one second that Abir does not love her anymore...she strongly believes there is a reason behind what he did. Even after facing a rejection like she did; her faith in them is UNTOUCHED. She believes in her heart that there is still a 'HUM' not just a 'YOU' or 'ME' ....which Abir clearly does not.


Mishti is trying so hard to make MishBir work - but Abir's head is so high up in the clouds (Metaphorically) that forget the unspoken words, even after Mishti is trying to talk to him point blank he is unable to hear the words.


I supposed Mishti can kidnap Abir and forcefully make him listen to what happened, what all went down before Mishti unintentionally blurted out the truth to Kunal. But should it really come to that ?


Also our TV Serials have a way of romanticizing such things which relationship experts would call 'Toxic' (In/For a relationship); and therefore evn if Mishti does all the work and wins Abir back we'll go be going Ga-Ga about it....but when that is the equation in a relationship - when one is overcompensating for the other always; is that a relationship any of us would want ?


I get that Abir is only human... and he has shown strength and resilience BUT only when it comes to his family. When it comes to them he is strong BUT when it comes to her he is not. And sadly even after putting her heart and soul and might into it - her strength to keep their relationship afloat is falling short.


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Posted: 6 years ago
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Well written& All r points..all points r truth..but still..I hope love can change every person strong I hope Abir will realise the value of mish in his life..and I want to see his determination n struggle fr mish..lets hope Abir Rajvansh won’t disappoint us.

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Yes at this stage mishti doesn't deserve abir rajvansh or his family, the way abir broke up with her abruptly was horrible, he didn't give her a proper reason plus it was more like an order to leave his life because he doesn't love her anymore and also the way he is behaving these days is not correct , he should be giving mishti a chance to say and explain her side...but my question is , is only abir responsible for the state that mishti is in right now ??

You are saying that abir has failed to be mishti several times , he didn't understand her unspoken words , I am sorry but I beg to differ on this , before their break up, every single time abir has shown enough trust and faith on her and stood by her , during email fiasco , during haldi fiasco , during that party date fiasco, when he felt that mishti is not getting the kind of respect that she deserves, he even decided to leave his house so that they can live separately, and I sure If mishti would have not preferred hiding things and lying to him at times , he would have managed things on time too

Before break up , had anytime abir through his words or actions gave signs to mishti that he doesn't trust or love her ?? Mishti started hiding and lying things during baba track, chalo i understand she thought abir would get angry on her if she shared her confusions n all and so she waited to collect proofs first , fair enough , but then what made her trust meenu blindly with the proofs ?? As a partner dosent abir deserve the first chance to know the truth about his baba and kunal from mishti?? BM BP and abir are the ones who have stood by her always but she chose meenu as the first person to give the proofs, why is it so ??

Abir had time and again made it very clear that he isnt on good terms with his mom , so what stopped mishti from revealing the fact that she was blackmailed by meenu not once but many times , be it the time when she had to insult kuhu , the time when meenu literally gave her an open threat on her bus confession day , aren't these important details that abir is supposed to know on time ?? Why is hiding and lying given a preference over saying the truth to abir and then expect that abir should understand her unspoken words , the last time I checked abir isn't some antaryami who will always decode the unspoken words ...sometimes you have to speak as well.

I understand mishti's emotions and her zeal to fight for her love and give her relationship a second chance , the amount of love that abir gave her made her restore her faith and come back ... her intentions have always been pure , what about her actions, are they right always ? Do you agree with the "way" she decided to fight for her love, by faking a relationship with someone to get a reaction from ex , to what extent is this move correct ?? Okay abir didn't give her a proper reason for break up but she knew that it is something related to baba , next day after her break up she also meets meenu and her conversation makes it clear that she believes that meenu had a role to play here and she double crossed mishti , then instead of complicating things by faking a relationship why she didn't try to dig in the real matter behind a break up ?? To what extent is faking a relationship to get a reaction correct ??

I am not trying to blame mishti or defend abir but all I want to say is that taali ek haath se nahi bajti, these little little things when not cleared on time can land up to big troubles .... the problems were there always it's just the magnitude has increased to the level that the situation has gone out of control now ....what abir is doing is absolutely wrong but what mishti had been doing it wasn't correct either .... for me both of them are responsible for the state that they are in ...both of them are at fault. Mishti could have shown a little bit of trust on abir during baba track instead of taking the decision to deal with the matter on her own without involving abir , and abir could have given her a chance to speak now on why she revealed the truth about kunal ...both are at fault.



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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Itznidha

Well written& All r points..all points r truth..but still..I hope love can change every person strong I hope Abir will realise the value of mish in his life..and I want to see his determination n struggle fr mish..lets hope Abir Rajvansh won’t disappoint us.


Bold & Underlined - That will happen eventually for sure and 99.9% Abir will realize his love for Mishti when it HITS him that Mishti is marrying Nishant, and is going to be Nishant's forever (Apparently Mishti will agree to the marriage).


By then hopefully he'll learn that NishMish were never in a relationship...that Mishti only & always loved only Abir... & that Abir broke Mishti time and again which is why she has decided to spend the rest of her life with he BFF who understands her, values her and would NEVER HURT her.


The remaining 0.1% may bring us something totally unexpected...But since it is ITV and every maker no matter how successful chooses to adopt the tried and tested route - So I do not have high hopes.


Dekhte hai....but I am tired of seeing Abir dismiss Mishti every single time. What Mishti did was wrong (Breaking the truth of Kunal's Birth) & there is no justifying her actions because that is not something you throw in somebody's face. I know Mishti did not mean to harm him intentionally. It was her anger towards Meenakshi Rajvansh - who tried to harm Nishant and used Kunal to do the same that forced her hand but still it was wrong. But Abir does not now this and he is not ready to listen either. The way he keeps dismissing her, the way he heard half the conversation and decided that Mishti is Mishti 2.0 , she is changed blah blah blah....It's starting to get painfully hard to watch.

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Yes at this stage mishti doesn't deserve abir rajvansh or his family, the way abir broke up with her abruptly was horrible, he didn't give her a proper reason plus it was more like an order to leave his life because he doesn't love her anymore and also the way he is behaving these days is not correct , he should be giving mishti a chance to say and explain her side...but my question is , is only abir responsible for the state that mishti is in right now ??

You are saying that abir has failed to be mishti several times , he didn't understand her unspoken words , I am sorry but I beg to differ on this , before their break up, every single time abir has shown enough trust and faith on her and stood by her , during email fiasco , during haldi fiasco , during that party date fiasco, when he felt that mishti is not getting the kind of respect that she deserves, he even decided to leave his house so that they can live separately, and I sure If mishti would have not preferred hiding things and lying to him at times , he would have managed things on time too

Before break up , had anytime abir through his words or actions gave signs to mishti that he doesn't trust or love her ?? Mishti started hiding and lying things during baba track, chalo i understand she thought abir would get angry on her if she shared her confusions n all and so she waited to collect proofs first , fair enough , but then what made her trust meenu blindly with the proofs ?? As a partner dosent abir deserve the first chance to know the truth about his baba and kunal from mishti?? BM BP and abir are the ones who have stood by her always but she chose meenu as the first person to give the proofs, why is it so ??

Abir had time and again made it very clear that he isnt on good terms with his mom , so what stopped mishti from revealing the fact that she was blackmailed by meenu not once but many times , be it the time when she had to insult kuhu , the time when meenu literally gave her an open threat on her bus confession day , aren't these important details that abir is supposed to know on time ?? Why is hiding and lying given a preference over saying the truth to abir and then expect that abir should understand her unspoken words , the last time I checked abir isn't some antaryami who will always decode the unspoken words ...sometimes you have to speak as well.

I understand mishti's emotions and her zeal to fight for her love and give her relationship a second chance , the amount of love that abir gave her made her restore her faith and come back ... her intentions have always been pure , what about her actions, are they right always ? Do you agree with the "way" she decided to fight for her love, by faking a relationship with someone to get a reaction from ex , to what extent is this move correct ?? Okay abir didn't give her a proper reason for break up but she knew that it is something related to baba , next day after her break up she also meets meenu and her conversation makes it clear that she believes that meenu had a role to play here and she double crossed mishti , then instead of complicating things by faking a relationship why she didn't try to dig in the real matter behind a break up ?? To what extent is faking a relationship to get a reaction correct ??

I am not trying to blame mishti or defend abir but all I want to say is that taali ek haath se nahi bajti, these little little things when not cleared on time can land up to big troubles .... the problems were there always it's just the magnitude has increased to the level that the situation has gone out of control now ....what abir is doing is absolutely wrong but what mishti had been doing it wasn't correct either .... for me both of them are responsible for the state that they are in ...both of them are at fault. Mishti could have shown a little bit of trust on abir during baba track instead of taking the decision to deal with the matter on her own without involving abir , and abir could have given her a chance to speak now on why she revealed the truth about kunal ...both are at fault.



Is post ke liye ek haath nahi but even do haath is not enough to applaud👏👏👏

You have beautifully explained both Abir and Mishti's situations uru👍🏼 Both are at fault from a long time. They are deeply flawed in regards to family vs love and childhood insecurities, but that's okay.

The culprit here is the writers have decided to twist their imperfectly original characters for the sake of trp and dramasadly mishbir as the lead couple are taking the bullets face on directly whilst the actual villain- monster meenu is being hidden all the time👎🏼


I have nothing more to add, as your post simply said everything so clearly and wonderfully😆👏 Kudos to you guruji, you are no1 for a reason🤗

We're on the same page buddy


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Originally posted by: rickks

I wouldn't want Abir Rajvansh as Mishti's life-Partner ...or the Rajvansh family as her new family/home.


I strongly believe that being together, being there for each other during the good-times is simply not enough. It's the bad days, the absolutely horrible days that count. Those are the days when you need that one person who you can rely upon/count on. One should be able to hear the unspoken words; those said when the rest of the world sees you standing in silence -that is what truly matters AND Sadly Abir has failed Mishti in that aspect on several occasions.


My statement that I wouldn't want Abir for Mishti does not come for a place of malign or contempt. The man has a good heart - It's just that I just believe a girl like Mishti deserves someone who values her, cherishes her, who would safeguard her spirit and zest for life - EVEN AFTER COMING FROM A BROKEN FAMILY, who knows what he has when she is in his life.


I did see small bursts of these things here and there but it's simply not enough.


Because when she needed him the most, when THEIR relationship needed him the most - Abir Failed!


When Abir's hand was forced by Meenakshi, when he was asked to choose between Kunal & Mishti - He chose Kunal. He chose his brother- NO QUALMS about it. Meenakshi was dancing on his head like a devil unleashed - he just did what he thought would stop the dancing.


But the fact that he did not feel the need to explain to Mishti; tht he dismissed her, that he chose to break her heart..her trust in the most brutal manner (Saying all the crap that she comes from a Broken Family) just shows how weak he is. Sorry, but doing what Abir did is WEAK in my view. It's fighting for your love, finding a way when there is NONE that actually qualifies as strong. But Abir didn't resort to any.


And now once again, Abir has chosen the easy route - Initially he believed Mishti must have had a reason to tell Kunal that he is not a Rajvansh (BTW, Totally didn't agree with Mishti here. No matter what the circumstances). But sadly the life-span of his belief...his faith lasted less than one would have hoped.


Abir hears just a part of the conversation and believes that Mishti did what she did out of spite to intentionally hurt Kunal. He then does not give her a second of his time; SURE there were other variables that came into play as well BUT Abir just gives her a piece of his mind & walks away.


But then if you think about it when has Abir shown that unfaltering faith in Mishti or their relationship like Mishti has?


Mishti's faith does not allow her to think even for one second that Abir does not love her anymore...she strongly believes there is a reason behind what he did. Even after facing a rejection like she did; her faith in them is UNTOUCHED. She believes in her heart that there is still a 'HUM' not just a 'YOU' or 'ME' ....which Abir clearly does not.


Mishti is trying so hard to make MishBir work - but Abir's head is so high up in the clouds (Metaphorically) that forget the unspoken words, even after Mishti is trying to talk to him point blank he is unable to hear the words.


I supposed Mishti can kidnap Abir and forcefully make him listen to what happened, what all went down before Mishti unintentionally blurted out the truth to Kunal. But should it really come to that ?


Also our TV Serials have a way of romanticizing such things which relationship experts would call 'Toxic' (In/For a relationship); and therefore evn if Mishti does all the work and wins Abir back we'll go be going Ga-Ga about it....but when that is the equation in a relationship - when one is overcompensating for the other always; is that a relationship any of us would want ?


I get that Abir is only human... and he has shown strength and resilience BUT only when it comes to his family. When it comes to them he is strong BUT when it comes to her he is not. And sadly even after putting her heart and soul and might into it - her strength to keep their relationship afloat is falling short.


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I appreciate your post my friend. 🤗

Yes there is a large part of me that agrees with you that Mishti has fought long and hard for her love for Abir, whom on the other hand is clearly not willing to commit to fighting 🤔 It's time Mishti allows Abir himself take action to get back what he is losing with Mishti by finally speaking up and fighting against BB.

He ended up only talking the talk but never walked the talk - in regards to all the promises and philosophies he made about love and fighting for love

Unfortunately he became severely emotionally influenced amd pulled in two extremely strong directions between Kunal and Mishti. The writers have forced the mishbir break-up.

But I have few things to rebut...

Mishti indeed has been absolutely resilient (commendable👏) in her faith with Abir and her love, even after such a heartbreaking break-up, she has kept strong to keep fighting on. But if she has this much confidence and faith, where was it when she was dealing with Baba mehul and Meenakshi?? Where was this unwavering belief, when Abir verbally told her regularly that he trusts her more than anything? Mishti had severe deep doubts that Abir could leave their relationship, leave their love just because of kismat or because of her doubts on Mehul.


All I'm trying to say is that both Mishti and Abir have made their faire share of mistakes. It is normal for them to have weaknesses and fall down but the writers have twisted the story in a way that restricts them from getting redemption and progressing as individual charactersthey've continued to pile on mistakes.


Just chill back and relax to watch the show, ultimately it's a drama fictional story🤗


Xx

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Originally posted by: yrhpk_aus

Is post ke liye ek haath nahi but even do haath is not enough to applaud👏👏👏

You have beautifully explained both Abir and Mishti's situations uru👍🏼 Both are at fault from a long time. They are deeply flawed in regards to family vs love and childhood insecurities, but that's okay.

The culprit here is the writers have decided to twist their imperfectly original characters for the sake of trp and dramasadly mishbir as the lead couple are taking the bullets face on directly whilst the actual villain- monster meenu is being hidden all the time👎🏼


I have nothing more to add, as your post simply said everything so clearly and wonderfully😆👏 Kudos to you guruji, you are no1 for a reason🤗

We're on the same page buddy


xx


Guruji 2 0 meri itni tareef bade dino baad kisi ne khul ke meri tareef ki hai 😆🤗🤗🤗🤗 love you love you love you for this ❤️❤️❤️ glad to see someone on the same page 🤗🤗


Yes the real culprit are writers only...they keep meenu and her intelligence on a consistent level but ruined other characters and their hoshiyari for a shaadi drama 🤪

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Originally posted by: yrhpk_aus

I appreciate your post my friend. 🤗


Thanks 😊


Yes there is a large part of me that agrees with you that Mishti has fought long and hard for her love for Abir, whom on the other hand is clearly not willing to commit to fighting 🤔 It's time Mishti allows Abir himself take action to get back what he is losing with Mishti by finally speaking up and fighting against BB.

He ended up only talking the talk but never walked the talk - in regards to all the promises and philosophies he made about love and fighting for love

Unfortunately he became severely emotionally influenced amd pulled in two extremely strong directions between Kunal and Mishti. The writers have forced the mishbir break-up.


AGREE 100%


Mishti indeed has been absolutely resilient (commendable👏) in her faith with Abir and her love, even after such a heartbreaking break-up, she has kept strong to keep fighting on. But if she has this much confidence and faith, where was it when she was dealing with Baba mehul and Meenakshi?? Where was this unwavering belief, when Abir verbally told her regularly that he trusts her more than anything? Mishti had severe deep doubts that Abir could leave their relationship, leave their love just because of kismat or because of her doubts on Mehul.


I think more than doubt she made an assessment of what was happening around and then chose the route she did. Abir already was at cross-roads with his mom; so getting his Baba back was like getting a piece of his heart back...something on the making him whole lines. Then he saw that all his near and dear ones was completely against his Baba. They had reason, but it wasn't enough for him - because that is how good Mehul weaved the whole IDEAL Baba web.


Had Mishti said or did something and couldn't prove it - that would cause a tear in MishBir's relationship - and there may not be a come back from that because Mishti would be accusing the one person Abir had such fond memories of....who his heart longed to meet, spend time with.... who he idolized. So I get why she didn't want to say anything without solid proof. And we saw Mehul- he was as slimy and slippery as they come. And we also saw how hard it was for Mishti to nail Mehul (Haan, ye alag baat hai she never got due credit for it, that demoness Thataka snatched it 😈)


I don't know what would have happened had Mishti confessed the truth to Abir - but I think he was too precious to her that she didn't want to cause him any kind of pain even by sharing her doubts. Yes, no matter what he would end up getting hurt and betrayed. But, I think she didn't want to cause that undue pain and suffering based on doubts because that would impact their relationship when compared to presenting them with proofs . Just what I feel.


All I'm trying to say is that both Mishti and Abir have made their faire share of mistakes. It is normal for them to have weaknesses and fall down but the writers have twisted the story in a way that restricts them from getting redemption and progressing as individual charactersthey've continued to pile on mistakes.


Just chill back and relax to watch the show, ultimately it's a drama fictional story🤗


Xx

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Originally posted by: Itznidha

Well written& All r points..all points r truth..but still..I hope love can change every person strong I hope Abir will realise the value of mish in his life..and I want to see his determination n struggle fr mish..lets hope Abir Rajvansh won’t disappoint us.

He always did.He knew what he was losing when he broke up.That's why in the break up scene he also tells himself kisi ki qismat mujh jaisi na ho..

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Originally posted by: rickks

I think I wasn't clear . My comment that Abir doesn't understand Mishti's unspoken words is post break-up alone. I get that Mishti hasn't been exactly pining for Abir (At least in front of him) but for someone who could read her so easily, it was quite surprising & shocking that he couldn't figure out she's putting up a facade...he didn't even try.

I understand where you're coming from buddy, but still...

To be honest any girl or guy in Mishti's shoes at that situation with the way Abir broke her heart in that devastating brutal break-up, any girl or even guy for that matter would definitely lose hope in love and wouldn't have the guts, courage, strength or motivation like Mishti did to still believe in Abir's pyar. That's why even Abir is convinced that with the way he crushed Mishti's soul and dream, he believes that no girl would want to see or talk to him, let alone still love him deeply and fight for him. He has assumed that Mishti has forgotten and moved along because any other girl in such a heartbreaking situation, would do the same. She would end up hating Abir and the thought of love. And to solidify his belief, Mishti's nishmish attack to act in relationship with Nishant obviously makes him further believe that she has moved on (despite how much it hurts him internally to accept it).

But right now after a few episodes after the leap, there have been moments when Abir has started to question Mishti moving on... he confronts her about trying to re-live her dreams of their relationship through Nishant (birthday tent and clothes), but Mishti dismisses it off as though she is strong enough to not let her ambitions with abir affect her with Nishant. This just further pushes Abir away, as Mishti convinces him that she is happy with Nishant.

Then after the jungle fire incident, he catches hint that Mishti perhaps still has space for Abir after calling his name first in an unconscious state. But destiny has it, the writers show him with new strength to persuade Parul maasi to tell kunal's truth to Kunal, they show him make more promises in monologue but ultimately ruin it for the drama.

I feel that when Mishti began to get solid hints from Abir that he still cares and longs for her (after the jungle incident and hospital scene), Mishti had to back off from nishmish drama a bit and be more open with Abir in giving him equal hints that she hasn't actually moved on and her bf relationship with Nannu is fake.

But the writers had other things in mind and brought in the alcohol mixing drama and brought Mishti under the knife again with blurting out the truth. Uff I feel awful for her, she's always put under pressure and pays the price when all she tries to do is to keep peace and happiness.


Hopefully I made some sense😆

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