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Originally posted by: asmaanixx

Firstly, you don't need to apologize.

Secondly, I agree with your viewpoints and I had touched upon some of these yesterday. However, the execution or presentation of these issues were horrible. Rather than showing Minnie's opinion on the matter, they're forcing her thoughts and beliefs onto us and Babita. They're not opening up a dialogue where two opposing ideas could stand beside each other. Instead, they're being pitted against one another and Minnie's viewpoint in being presented as the only correct one while Babita's is wrong. Then amidst all of this, HS is being used as a tool wherein all these differences can either be created or be bounced off of as if he weren't a living being with his own emotions.

But perhaps maybe she’s doing this because of her nature, not so much incorrect execution. Altho it all boils down to the writers portraying this correctly, as the actors only do what’s written in their script. We’ve known for a long while she’s been shown to be controlling so when someone is controlling this is what they do. Its then up to the ppl around them (in this case her mother or Hs) to see where these ideas she’s forcing on them stem from and get her the correct professional help that she needs. Or this is how I see it. Even babita, when trying to explain to her why she’s wrong, she doesn’t do a very good job, she just repeats “you’re a child, you wouldn’t understand”. But she’s not a child she’s a young adult and she’s seen things that even adults 10 years old than her have not seen. And I don’t think half the things she says (for eg fasting when Sick and not worrying about health, or the financial stuff) is wrong I just things it’s portrayed in a pushy way cos it’s down to her controlling nature. In actual fact both of them don’t have any sort of communication level, they seem to speak AT each other. I do disagree with the surname thing (altho I could see where she was coming from because her and babes did make that pact) but here again it was up to babita to correctly make her see why she felt complete being a Singh and how one day mini would probably feels the same when she’s in love. It does feel like everything babita has worked towards is being undone so mini can’t be blamed for Worrying when babita could be alone again and have to start from scratch. It’s a catch 22 situation because mini needs teaching but how does babita teach her when babita needs teaching herself

Originally posted by: _Reka_

You are probably right but bottom line is, she needs help, cause this is just not the way to deak with it. Get her to that shrink asap. Ptds is also a major issue. One does not get rid of it just by herself.

Oh yes I totally agree she needs help and it’s the ppl around her who needs to recognise this but they’re so self absorbed to notice. If she’s going to have to get help on her own she usually has to hit rock bottom before recognising this, if even. I think from the start it was wrong to just forget about her depression after one visit to a psychologist. You can just see by some of her dialogues how the experience has changed her viewpoints and this is going to be long lasting into her own life. Children of divorce (especially ugly ones) more often than not need counselling or they go off the rails or end up permanently scarred. I reckon they should have been showing the effect on BOTH mother and daughter from the start. These writers tho only seem able to focus on one thing at a time, then forget about it 🤪

Originally posted by: deefy89

Oh yes I totally agree she needs help and it’s the ppl around her who needs to recognise this but they’re so self absorbed to notice. If she’s going to have to get help on her own she usually has to hit rock bottom before recognising this, if even. I think from the start it was wrong to just forget about her depression after one visit to a psychologist. You can just see by some of her dialogues how the experience has changed her viewpoints and this is going to be long lasting into her own life. Children of divorce (especially ugly ones) more often than not need counselling or they go off the rails or end up permanently scarred. I reckon they should have been showing the effect on BOTH mother and daughter from the start. These writers tho only seem able to focus on one thing at a time, then forget about it 🤪

In their obsession of showing daughter giving wings to mother they completely forgot how psychology of a mother works.

Originally posted by: _Reka_

The problem is, she doesn't even reflect on these matters. She is so caught up in pretending everything is like before.

The energy it takes to keep up such pretenses and to try and convince yourself that what is troublesome is actually fine is what messes people up in the head. Been there, done that.

Originally posted by: naq5

actually Babita should have thought of mini-HS dynamics before asking mini to be financially dependent on HS. they are not father daughter yet and mini will obviously be more comfortable being financially dependant on babita not HS. Right now everything from minis fees, food, books etc are going to be HS salary, now if babita wants to give gift too from it mini is going to feel that my mother can earn but dosent want to, not even for her daughter. I said in another thread that it should have been a slow process with HS first taking care of few things financially for mini.

And secondly with the marriage mini dint know that she would have to be financially dependent on HS. Babita dint talk to her before marriage about it. And remember the HS mini talk where HS was telling that your mother is capable now to take care of herself and her daughter financially, she needs a husband and a partner only for companionship & for love. So somewhere to her a different picture was shown before marriage and now something else is happening. This is not a first marriage where it is only about 2 people. this is a 2nd marriage where the opinion and comfort of children too needs to be taken into account majorly. Babita keeps saying she will think about mini first in this marriage but she really hasnt. Mini is already dealing with changes after babita HS marriage this was not the right time for her to be dealing with babita getting her dependent on HS financially.

And in all this it is minis disappointment with babita not her acceptance of HS which is making her say all these things

I also think that Minnie herself has not been able to isolate the causes of specific triggers that make her feel a certain way, mainly because she just doesn't give herself a chance to introspect. She will have to learn to do this over time otherwise it will just cause further damage and give her a warped sense of reality.

Originally posted by: Jiarao

The whole problem lies in CVS trying to show a kid in need of therapy as heroine of the story.

In their obsession of showing daughter giving wings to mother they completely forgot how psychology of a mother works.

or how the psychology of a child works, for that matter

Originally posted by: Jiarao

The whole problem lies in CVS trying to show a kid in need of therapy as heroine of the story.

In their obsession of showing daughter giving wings to mother they completely forgot how psychology of a mother works.

I agree they’ve failed miserably. imo they could have still shown her as a heroine to her mother, as it is easier to dish out advice than take it, in general.

they could have successfully shown a young girl imparting knowledge to her mother to help her out from under the weight of tradition and societal pressure and once that happens, the focus could of went to mini and how the now strong babita helping mini. Only, they’ve failed to make babita reach this point and they’ve made her character stuck in the endless cycle of maturity and “what people will say”.

So what if she only did the independence thing out of compulsion? They could of shown her enjoying it and continuing to be that way in her second marriage. A woman can both work and be home maker. Instead they chose not to. For a “progressive” show it turns out to be not very progressive at times and seems to be either one or the other.

I guess it turns out that the creative people who started this show turned out to be not very creative after all. With that being said, it’s still the best serial on tv imo and I will personally give season 2 a chance before deciding whether to stop watching it. One can only hope that the writers have learned from their disastrous writing

Originally posted by: deefy89

But perhaps maybe she’s doing this because of her nature, not so much incorrect execution. Altho it all boils down to the writers portraying this correctly, as the actors only do what’s written in their script. We’ve known for a long while she’s been shown to be controlling so when someone is controlling this is what they do. Its then up to the ppl around them (in this case her mother or Hs) to see where these ideas she’s forcing on them stem from and get her the correct professional help that she needs. Or this is how I see it. Even babita, when trying to explain to her why she’s wrong, she doesn’t do a very good job, she just repeats “you’re a child, you wouldn’t understand”. But she’s not a child she’s a young adult and she’s seen things that even adults 10 years old than her have not seen. And I don’t think half the things she says (for eg fasting when Sick and not worrying about health, or the financial stuff) is wrong I just things it’s portrayed in a pushy way cos it’s down to her controlling nature. In actual fact both of them don’t have any sort of communication level, they seem to speak AT each other. I do disagree with the surname thing (altho I could see where she was coming from because her and babes did make that pact) but here again it was up to babita to correctly make her see why she felt complete being a Singh and how one day mini would probably feels the same when she’s in love. It does feel like everything babita has worked towards is being undone so mini can’t be blamed for Worrying when babita could be alone again and have to start from scratch. It’s a catch 22 situation because mini needs teaching but how does babita teach her when babita needs teaching herself

@ bold. exactly what i think too. it was a pact made between them in the darkest and lowest time of their lives where babita explained to her that she was mini and she was babita. though surname changing is a very common thing but i understand why mini felt it was not okay. I am seeing that babita has gone back on a lot of her words to mini. Be it the decision to take care of her financial responsibility or the name thing. I can see why mini is upset and feels sort of cheated i would say.

these are differences between Babita -mini. Just because babita is going back on her words in her love for HS it dosent make it ok. Its not about HS in all this which people are making it out to be.

Originally posted by: deefy89

I agree they’ve failed miserably. imo they could have still shown her as a heroine to her mother, as it is easier to dish out advice than take it, in general.

they could have successfully shown a young girl imparting knowledge to her mother to help her out from under the weight of tradition and societal pressure and once that happens, the focus could of went to mini and how the now strong babita helping mini. Only, they’ve failed to make babita reach this point and they’ve made her character stuck in the endless cycle of maturity and “what people will say”.

So what if she only did the independence thing out of compulsion? They could of shown her enjoying it and continuing to be that way in her second marriage. A woman can both work and be home maker. Instead they chose not to. For a “progressive” show it turns out to be not very progressive at times and seems to be either one or the other.

I guess it turns out that the creative people who started this show turned out to be not very creative after all. With that being said, it’s still the best serial on tv imo and I will personally give season 2 a chance before deciding whether to stop watching it. One can only hope that the writers have learned from their disastrous writing

true and actually once a person tastes independence it is difficult to let go off it completely and become dependent on another person. I wonder what they are trying to show. And did babita ask mini that now HS will take care of her financial responsibility so is she ok with it. She says working & earning was her majboori, so was taking care of mini financially also a majboori to her that sh wants to transfer it on HS at first chance. IDK how i would have felt if my mother did that to me.

And is she really senseless why have that extravagant wedding instead of saving it for future when she dint plan to earn after that. Save it for your daughters later studies at least, or open a deposit in her name for her security. this is what mothers would do or any parent. we expect mini to become a daughter and behave like one but has babita really learnt to become her mother in a complete sense

Originally posted by: naq5

@ bold. exactly what i think too. it was a pact made between them in the darkest and lowest time of their lives where babita explained to her that she was mini and she was babita. though surname changing is a very common thing but i understand why mini felt it was not okay. I am seeing that babita has gone back on a lot of her words to mini. Be it the decision to take care of her financial responsibility or the name thing. I can see why mini is upset and feels sort of cheated i would say.

these are differences between Babita -mini. Just because babita is going back on her words in her love for HS it dosent make it ok. Its not about HS in all this which people are making it out to be.

Imo Hs is as much a victim as mini is and it’s all down to babita, the person who’s meant to be the glue in this new family. In reality before a 2nd marriage, especially when there’s children involved, conversations are had about expectations, roles etc which failed to happen here. And it was babita who should have insisted on these conversations due to her own biological kid being the kid in question. Even if babita changed her mind on the surname thing, here again, it’s her responsibility to speak to her daughter about the difference and where her mind is currently at. Not that she’s got to run things past mini, but these two have always been a unit. The problem is that the writers have done such an awful job of writing babitas character that we could not see all of this.

What I don’t understand is how they can show a woman totally forget about how after 17 YEARS OF MARRIAGE, she was cheated and kicked to the curb. In reality, someone who’s been through this would be so scarred that they’ll make provisions so that even if it did happen again, they’d be prepared this time. If her first marriage wasn’t a Guarantee after such a long time, who’s to say the 2nd marriage will last?

Ps: I don’t get why it’s so important for Hs to be mini’s father when both mini has literally never had a present father. Even on Thursdays episode she makes Hs promise not to let mini go “because of what people will say”. It’s her daughter not his and what kind of mother puts their own image before her daughters career, knowing mini has always wanted to study abroad. It’s no wonder pari was pissed off, who’d want to play such a weak, awful woman