Proof of Family - Page 7

Originally posted by: tantal

Dheere chalna followed by 'Imarti ki jagah koi nahi le sakti mera dil me' to 'Kya makan malkin banogi?' 'Minnie hamesha first hai mere liye' to Minnie being an afterthought in their marriage. Yeh ajeeb dastaan hai

Exactly. Do writers think viewers have amnesia or what?

Also, if you think about it, this is all done to somehow make Mini’s feelings or fears come true. Both are negligent and bad parents... apparently HS never considered her his daughter, apparently Babita doesn’t understand her own daughter’s feeling. Matlab kya prove karna chahte ho? That both Hanita are out to destroy Mini’s life?!?! Had hoti hai. I am just pissed at the writers for ruining this beautiful family.

Originally posted by: LoveInAutumn26

Exactly. Do writers think viewers have amnesia or what?

Also, if you think about it, this is all done to somehow make Mini’s feelings or fears come true. Both are negligent and bad parents... apparently HS never considered her his daughter, apparently Babita doesn’t understand her own daughter’s feeling. Matlab kya prove karna chahte ho? That both Hanita are out to destroy Mini’s life?!?! Had hoti hai. I am just pissed at the writers for ruining this beautiful family.

That's because ultimately it will come down to showing Minnie being right, that her fears and anxieties had a valid basis and both the adults in her family were behaving in self-absorbed, thoughtless nd callous ways post-marriage to sideline her and her needs and aspirations. Otherwise there is no explanation for the drastic way HS's equation with Minnie has been altered. Just becuase HS and babita sleep together now all the early morning chats, casual banter, random slice-of-life conversations between HS and Minnie have stopped. So damn stupid.

They seem more distant and formal than even the first days of their living under one roof. That's why I am kind of surprised that more people are not noticing how HS's character has suddenly been showing such gaping holes.

Originally posted by: asmaanixx

If she was still so unsure of how HS would be as a father to Minnie, then she shouldn't have gotten married, period. She didn't need Minnie's permission for this. If she felt any doubts herself, then she shouldn't have gone through with it. To have her constantly put HS under the ringer like this isn't fair to him.

Thats the point... Given the equation Mini and Hanuman shared, she did not think she had to worry about it all.. the doubt crept I post the CD fiasco which she was actually dismissive of.. it is now again that the doubt gas resurfaced and that too because of what Hanuman said. Let's face it.. if we consider what Hanuman says as true, both he and Mini had led Babita on big time

Every mother who gets married for the second time wishes to make sure that her husband would assume the role of her father.. hell most father's marrying the second time have the same expectations.. Babita believed amidst all her insecurities that if there was one thing she did not have to worry about, it was Hanuman being s father to Mini.. what Hanuman said actually can be implied that both he and Mini tricked her which is definitely not something she deserved

It's not Babita who put him on the ringer this time.. it's Hanuman himself with his attraction and appeasement talks because frankly even if he thinks Babita was always attracted to him (to despite the danda) now wasn't the time to bring it up

I understand people here love Hanuman but he has been wrong plenty of times in this show and this instance happens to be one of them

And if Babita had doubts due to which you think she shouldn't have married him, Hanuman too could have backed out from the wedding instead of going through the proceedings in zombie mode

Originally posted by: zehreeli.kheer

Thats the point... Given the equation Mini and Hanuman shared, she did not think she had to worry about it all.. the doubt crept I post the CD fiasco which she was actually dismissive of.. it is now again that the doubt gas resurfaced and that too because of what Hanuman said. Let's face it.. if we consider what Hanuman says as true, both he and Mini had led Babita on big time

Every mother who gets married for the second time wishes to make sure that her husband would assume the role of her father.. hell most father's marrying the second time have the same expectations.. Babita believed amidst all her insecurities that if there was one thing she did not have to worry about, it was Hanuman being s father to Mini.. what Hanuman said actually can be implied that both he and Mini tricked her which is definitely not something she deserved

It's not Babita who put him on the ringer this time.. it's Hanuman himself with his attraction and appeasement talks because frankly even if he thinks Babita was always attracted to him (to despite the danda) now wasn't the time to bring it up

I understand people here love Hanuman but he has been wrong plenty of times in this show and this instance happens to be one of them

And if Babita had doubts due to which you think she shouldn't have married him, Hanuman too could have backed out from the wedding instead of going through the proceedings in zombie mode

I agree to most of the things in this post except for the part that Minnie led Babita on. I don't think Minnie made any kind of overt, explicit statements regarding HS and his position in her own life. Most of her talks and advice were on HS-Babita relationship. But HS definitely did make the statements, not once but multiple times, about how Minnie came first for him. So, now to do an about turn and say that he wanted to impress Babita through all these sttements makes him appear manipulative, devious and insincere. He could have made the same statement that he made today before marriage. The fact that he embellished the way he felt about Minnie to make Babita feel secure (his words) seem so incongruous to the way Hannie relationship had been depicted pre-marriage.

And about Minnie.. not only did her trust break on the CD issue but even the way HS's behavior has changed towards her after that (GP was just an aberration) - I don't really see how she wouldn't feel insecure and lost right now

Maybe if Hanuman and Mini had not lied to get or misled her, she would have repressed her feelings for Hanuman and eventually fallen for someone else.. you know like Micky.. Hanuman would have remained her soulmate but she could have found love in someone else who wanted the label of father?❤️

Originally posted by: zehreeli.kheer

Maybe if Hanuman and Mini had not lied to get or misled her, she would have repressed her feelings for Hanuman and eventually fallen for someone else.. you know like Micky.. Hanuman would have remained her soulmate but she could have found love in someone else who wanted the label of father?❤️

LOL.. at first I thought you meant Babita would have fallen for Micky.

That would have been a hoot

Originally posted by: tantal

I agree to most of the things in this post except for the part that Minnie led Babita on. I don't think Minnie made any kind of overt, explicit statements regarding HS and his position in her own life. Most of her talks and advice were on HS-Babita relationship. But HS definitely did make the statements, not once but multiple times, about how Minnie came first for him. So, now to do an about turn and say that he wanted to impress Babita through all these sttements makes him appear manipulative, devious and insincere. He could have made the same statement that he made today before marriage. The fact that he embellished the way he felt about Minnie to make Babita feel secure (his words) seem so incongruous to the way Hannie relationship had been depicted pre-marriage.

And about Minnie.. not only did her trust break on the CD issue but even the way HS's behavior has changed towards her after that (GP was just an aberration) - I don't really see how she wouldn't feel insecure and lost right now

Didn't Hanuman say he thinks Mini knows the truth? And Mini herself accepted that.. She should have told it to Babita in that case.. Babita had the right to make a decision after complete information

I don't question her sadness or insecurity.. I have a problem with her wanting things her way.. her equat with Hanuman being separate, a lot she has done post wedding is just not right and she needs a serious sitting down for it

I won’t comment on the career thing but what Mini said is true . She acted her whole life as per as What Babes emotions demanded. It’s true ki ya toh B roti hai ya emotional blackmail karti hai which restricts M or as a matter of fact suppressed M’s emotions. m too is a human but for B’s sake she always has put bravery mask. She understands Babes ka har emotion but here is what Babes fails to do she thinks M brave hai bura nahi lagega. I was so happy seeing M cry I wanted this to happen and jo Log isko self- victimisation ka taane de rahe hai probably don’t know how difficult is it to wear a mask of being brave all time. M had to take B’s responsibility because otherwise I think B would be in depression now and would never try to be independent.Ashnoor girl I love you and your understanding of what emotions have to be portrayed.

Originally posted by: Hannie_Fan

I won’t comment on the career thing but what Mini said is true . She acted her whole life as per as What Babes emotions demanded. It’s true ki ya toh B roti hai ya emotional blackmail karti hai which restricts M or as a matter of fact suppressed M’s emotions. m too is a human but for B’s sake she always has put bravery mask. She understands Babes ka har emotion but here is what Babes fails to do she thinks M brave hai bura nahi lagega. I was so happy seeing M cry I wanted this to happen and jo Log isko self- victimisation ka taane de rahe hai probably don’t know how difficult is it to wear a mask of being brave all time. M had to take B’s responsibility because otherwise I think B would be in depression now and would never try to be independent.Ashnoor girl I love you and your understanding of what emotions have to be portrayed.

One year.. Mini had to take care of Babita one year and she gets flooded with emotions.. my Babita was entangled in a flurry of emotions for 17 years and that does not count? Mini did not have to give up anything for Babita in those 17 years.. kia give up karti? They were living a pretty much normal albeit somewhat suffocated Liv till Ashok's cheating came to forefront

Mini chooses to put a bravery mask but she has been in depression and do you remember what the psychiatrist told Babita? That she needed to let Mini have this savior complex for her betterment and keep her convinced that Babita cannot survive without her..

Babita top wore a mask of smile and all is well in all those 17 years when she felt suffocated and tortured.. the tortured Mini trivialized bohut aram se in her victimhood.. Mini could not carry on this bravery facade for a year and Babita continued with her mask for 17 years.. so who is more repressed?

Mini conveniently blamed Babita gor bearing the torture for 17 years

Well then, isn't she too be blamed for her feelings of suffocation since so many years?

Babita is to be blamed for not letting Khuranas know what she was feeling.. going by that logic, mini gets the blame for not telling Babita she was feeling burdened while taking care of her

But it is not really easy to walk the talk