The basic unanswered question - Page 3

Originally posted by: LoveInAutumn26

So whats your consensus based on the morning scene.. did they do it or did they not do it? 😆

I am also wondering this. By the mornings scene and her referencing putting her head on his shoulder does this mean they have consummated the marriage? The writers should be a bit more clear. Would be nice to properly know if they’ve overcome this issue

Originally posted by: naq5

With HS mini i feel even hanuman is acting distant not only mini. I dont know if he has accepted in his mind that he was wrong about blaming mini that she planted the CD and that she actually dint do it. Its his fault then. I understand mini acting distant because she is hurt as hanuman blamed her but why is hs acting so distant whereas he is the one who should be making the effort to make her understand. Does hanuman really need proof that mini dint play the CD. He is acting as if she is really the 3 rd wheel and just babitas daughter as if even if not father daughter they have no deep personal equation between them.

I guess the writers are saving that for later. Right now HS’s full focus is only on Babita....he seems scared to tackle or approach the issue with Mini.

What’s obvious is that something has changed between them but Mini is handling it more maturely than him. She isn’t shutting him out despite whatever hurt she felt. She still considers him a good man, likes him, trusts him for her Babes. But she isn’t thinking beyond that.

Yesterday he said sorry to Mini for not being able to handle her mother despite promising he will keep her happy....that was a tell about the breakdown in their equation...he also thinks their equation is only dependent on how much he takes care of Babita. The Mini who was once ready to tear the world apart for anyone who hurt her Babes now calmly gave understanding to HS in that scene. I was left wondering if her character has actually changed to that level or she’s just moved HS down from the pedestal she had him on and stopped having much expectations from him. And along with the loss of expectations, that natural haq she exerted has also been lost to some extent.

He doesn’t know how to communicate with her. He’s too scared....he’s scared of both mother and daughter Waise toh. Lol

I keep thinking of the time he said to her “tu first hai”....aajkal woh feeling nahin aati despite the happy family morning scene yesterday.

Originally posted by: hamzanuha

@Bold - But didn't Mita say that in the beginning Ashok was gentle tender so different than what he is now, that she thought he understood her. But then Ashok character-assassinated Mita in front of everyone when he was angry (similar to humiliating Babita in court). People do change over time, at times radically opposite to what they were. Maybe Ashok was a little good, somewhat considerate, but got bored of maintaining the facade after getting comfortable with the two ladies.

I agree with both yours and naq’s description of Ashok on this front. People do change over time and they reveal their true nature when their ego is challenged. The same was true of Ashok in the case of both Babita and Mita. He viciously tried to tear both of them down for challenging him on something. He can keep up a loving appearance only until things are going his way....he flips when they don’t

Babita and Mita both seem to have low self esteem....but Babita is more naive so she still seems to lack a full understanding of whatever little equation she shared with Ashok. Like she mentioned in yesterday’s scene, she expected him to naturally be able to love her because they shared a daughter together....she finds herself lacking that he couldn’t even love her for their daughter.

The man didn’t show up for the birth of his own daughter but somehow Babita still feels it must be something lacking in her that he didn’t 🤷‍♀️....the man really did a number on her self esteem.

HS analyzed it all practically in that scene but as usual, with Babita, one can’t be sure if she comprehended any of it 🤷‍♀️😂

Originally posted by: deefy89

I am also wondering this. By the mornings scene and her referencing putting her head on his shoulder does this mean they have consummated the marriage? The writers should be a bit more clear. Would be nice to properly know if they’ve overcome this issue

LOL but the writers enjoy playing this guessing game na....they do it for every aspect of the story.

Based on the morning scene, I don’t think the intimacy aspect is going to be an issue between them....they’ve found a level of comfort on that front and will proceed naturally aapas mein. Doesn’t seem like the writers will go into detail there because Babita’s real issue wasn’t how to approach intimacy but how to feel loved and accepted. HS gave her that yesterday so she is comfortable now.

Excellent analysis of the episode by you, Anu! 🤗

Originally posted by: Indulatha

That’s true yaar, In reality shaadi ek Mahasagar hai Amruth man than to karna padta tai , kisi ek ko pati ho ya patni ho ek ko Shiv jaroor ban na padta hai until they get comfortable and understanding each other. Sadly to say in some cases until lifelong.

But this is the show so we need to bare only until they get comfortable each other .

I just felt sad when HS yesterday said ki we are partners na? I don't know if Babita can ever truly be a partner to him.....this relationship is very imbalanced and even more so because they have both not clarified to each other why they really married each other.....presumptions pe chal rahe hain.

Also, when HS mentioned to her that it's a lifelong relationship now.....sazaa maan ke kaat lo, ya dosti samajh ke.

I wish aisi soch na hoti shaadi ko lekar....committment is one thing but jab sazaa waali feeling aane lage, toh phir kaisi shaadi? If only Babita had the maturity to reply that she doesn't want to live her life like a sazaa.

But right now he seems to be tackling her abandonment issue....letting her know that he will always be with her but it's upto her whether she wants to spend that time like a sazaa or spend it pleasantly.

Originally posted by: naadanmasakalli

What i meant was if she wants to be in this shaadi toh thoda effort toh daalna padega beyond chai pakoda aise side main bhaithe rehne se toh nibh gayi shaadi. The funny thing is isse zyada toh babita used to share before the shaadi and jatao haq like the whole drinking issie kaise jhansi ki rani banke haq jata rahi thi and now she constantly behave with this takaluf ek hesistance but sugary sweet ban jai rk dum trophy wife kinds. She just lacks ek apnapan which was never the issue before. Lol in a way she keeps proving him right ke bas parayr mard main zaroorat se zyada interst lebe wali janani hai babita caz jabse apna hua tanse isne hi paraya behave karna start kar dia 😆

I guess thoda apnapan waapis aa jaayega since they seem to be a bit more emotionally and physically comfortable with each other now based on the morning scene😆

Apnapan aur haq sambhaalne ki bhi tuition lagti hai isko😆

The show has switched gears after the shaadi and to a large extent we are expected to forget how things were before the shaadi....however they all behaved or thought of each other has been flipped....we aren't expected to question ki Babita woh sab haq wagairah kyun chahti thi shaadi se pehle when she had such deep seated self-worth and abandonment issues about a husband......

All because the basic question isn't going to be addressed ki why did she want to marry him? 😆.....tab tak aise hi speculate karenge....hum bhi aur HS bhi.

Aur end mein reason bhi koi popat hi niklega simple sa😆

Originally posted by: AreYaar

I guess the writers are saving that for later. Right now HS’s full focus is only on Babita....he seems scared to tackle or approach the issue with Mini.

What’s obvious is that something has changed between them but Mini is handling it more maturely than him. She isn’t shutting him out despite whatever hurt she felt. She still considers him a good man, likes him, trusts him for her Babes. But she isn’t thinking beyond that.

Yesterday he said sorry to Mini for not being able to handle her mother despite promising he will keep her happy....that was a tell about the breakdown in their equation...he also thinks their equation is only dependent on how much he takes care of Babita. The Mini who was once ready to tear the world apart for anyone who hurt her Babes now calmly gave understanding to HS in that scene. I was left wondering if her character has actually changed to that level or she’s just moved HS down from the pedestal she had him on and stopped having much expectations from him. And along with the loss of expectations, that natural haq she exerted has also been lost to some extent.

He doesn’t know how to communicate with her. He’s too scared....he’s scared of both mother and daughter Waise toh. Lol

I keep thinking of the time he said to her “tu first hai”....aajkal woh feeling nahin aati despite the happy family morning scene yesterday.

Yes. His fear is visible in his eyes. He is scared if he talked to her, she might actually tell him that she doesn't need a father which he now clearly knows is the truth.

Still I feel , she comes first for him. If she doesn't want a father then what does she want from him? Her mother's happiness. So he will make sure he gives her that.

Originally posted by: Jiarao

This actually didn't sit well with me. Her character suddenly seems to grow up too much. May be they want to portray her all mature and loving her parents even when they are chidish. Whatever it may be , it has gone overboard now.

Yes. His fear is visible in his eyes. He is scared if he talked to her, she might actually tell him that she doesn't need a father which he now clearly knows is the truth.

Still I feel , she comes first for him. If she doesn't want a father then what does she want from him? Her mother's happiness. So he will make sure he gives her that.

I don’t really get that feeling. He doesn’t want her mother’s happiness only for Mini’s sake. Not like he was so jumpy about the honeymoon just to make Mini happy 😕😆.....clearly he has his own desires as a man that were the factor there. He wanted that for himself and Babita, not to check off some box on Mini’s checklist.

His issue with Mini is seperate from his expectations of married life with Babita. It’s imbalanced right now because he is focused on the latter. He hasn’t prioritized the Mini thing and that is what the story wanted to show....that talk was easy but when it actually came to balancing b/w husband and father, he faltered and hasn’t been able to find his balance yet.

Writers definitely wanted to show Mini as the most mature in all this. Both the adults messed up and still don’t seem to have realized how much they neglected Mini in all this. Lol koi baat nahin, let them enjoy their brief moments of romance for now😆....husband-wife ke relationship ke liye parenting did take a backseat. Despite all the talk of “Mini ke liye, Mini ke liye” Lol

Originally posted by: AreYaar

I don’t really get that feeling. He doesn’t want her mother’s happiness only for Mini’s sake. Not like he was so jumpy about the honeymoon just to make Mini happy 😕😆.....clearly he has his own desires as a man that were the factor there. He wanted that for himself and Babita, not to check off some box on Mini’s checklist.

His issue with Mini is seperate from his expectations of married life with Babita. It’s imbalanced right now because he is focused on the latter. He hasn’t prioritized the Mini thing and that is what the story wanted to show....that talk was easy but when it actually came to balancing b/w husband and father, he faltered and hasn’t been able to find his balance yet.

Writers definitely wanted to show Mini as the most mature in all this. Both the adults messed up and still don’t seem to have realized how much they neglected Mini in all this. Lol koi baat nahin, let them enjoy their brief moments of romance for now😆...husband-wife ke relationship ke liye parenting did take a backseat. Despite all the talk of “Mini ke liye, Mini ke liye” Lol