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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: munnihyderabad



thank you sneha❤️,

ek baath boloon , not as a mod, just on a personal level .. don't let your thoughts be influenced by what other's might think ..hum jo bhi kahe ppl think what they have to .. we cannot stop them or let others influence on what we say/write ..




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Thank you for your words. I will definitely consider it.

Actually here everyone is either on this side of fence or the other. So it's a little difficult for neutral people like me who are not shipping any couple

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: munnihyderabad



Manisha 🤗 thank you for sharing your thoughts here and for the kind words ..
let me try to reply point wise.. though we may not reach consensus but still ..

1. taking care of Kuki was not deal with her freedom, it was him not attacking Basus or buying out their property as long as they don't attack him first . if we see from a husband's perspective, it's tough for any man to let his wife go and meet her lover from the past ... no man would agree to it as it crushes their mountain size ego of not just a man but that of a husband .. if he wanted he would have clearly said no, but the way she breaks down, her tears are affecting him.. if we want to see every person is selfish , we can say he is selfish because he couldn't see her tears and let her off... let's take Prerna today didn't wait for his nod, but the other day he took her to hospital , he told her to go meet Mr.Basu ..

By deal with freedom I meant that he married her for kuki and she agreed to the deal for Anurag and his business and along with that loyalty which was expected from her. So loyalty clause here is something which is really a dubious one. Nothing has been clarified so far in this context. What exactly defines loyalty? Probably no-one can define here.

If we think that one fine day she decides to divorce him and lead her life with Anurag then he will attack Basus again as that was what he promised. And if Anurag dies here then is she free to leave him and lead a seperate life? Bcoz Anurag's life which was the basis of the deal isn't it. So just for the sake of saving Anurag so that he improves and survives and Prerna continues fulfilling her end of the deal he allowed her to meet and stay near him. This for me is a kind of restricted freedom for his own selfish interest. That happens as he has probably understood the depth of their love as he has been following them really closely.

I agree with you on a husbands ego but that was the part of the deal. He has to allow her to do so despite him not liking it obviously as he is well aware of the consequences of breaking the deal.


- If lecturing Mohini was wrong, standing up for his wife is his right .. telling her to respect herself only then she will be respected was needed from him .. Mohini's emotions her act there by I understand, but someone has to take stand for Prerna .. like today Prerna took a stand against Mohini and Tapur .. even if it was not for herself but for Anurag, if she is praised for that stand ... I guess Bajaj did nothing different the previous day when he stood for her, because Prerna genuinely came for Anurag's life.. Bajaj's words influenced Prerna and I am not saying this , Mohini Basu herself vouched for it .. that it's Bajaj's influence yesterday on Prerna that she is speaking like this today.
He took a stand for her and I agree to his action here but at the same time he knows the reason for the wrath she is facing. It's him totally so instead he could have revealed the truth of the deal as that would save her from this daily torture. If he isn't doing bcoz she doesn't want him to do so then there are many other things which she wanted him not to do.... accident would be one of those obviously. I agree that nothing has been cleared but no-one can deny that he left an injured person there. He does what he wants to and that's how he is.....

Regarding the influence of his words .... I'm sure they would have considering the mess she is in at the moment.

- Bajaj is emotionally unattached to Anurag, but then there is Prerna in between, he is affected by her emotions which in turn are for Anurag.. if I remember correctly anurag taking over Bajaj mansion lead to Bajaj to buy BB 50% so it's started by Anurag's emotions which drove him to take over BM .. but the point is he gave her the freedom to stay or not in front of everyone, it's a mighty thing for a man/husband to do .. with all their pride/ego etc etc .. but here he let her decide what she wants to do .

See again I would say that it wasn't Anurag who started all this.... it was Bajaj who started with conspiracy to take over BP which was followed by this deal marriage and rest I feel everyone knows.

Regarding Anurag taking over BM it was purely driven by the reason given by Prerna for marrying Bajaj. So an emotional person like him whose life turned upside down is bound to do such a thing when he has been forced to believe that he was inferior to Bajaj financially that's why he has been forced to suffer brutally.

Regarding him allowing again I'll say it's his guilt plus deal clause which made him do that otherwise he would never tolerate that.... in fact no one would... I agree with you on this.


- again mohini herself said Prerna is influenced by Bajaj's words , in hospital and i do agree that Prerna has that ajeeb si inner strength which comes to fore at times.. Bajaj said these words about Prerna in the para gliding episode "kuch baath hai ismein, jo maine aajtak apni kisi opponent mein nahin dekhi ,. hosla, zidh , steel " but that inner strength to stand for herself was not seen in his hospital but after his words she did today... so it's again abt perceptions..

Here again she stood up for Anurag and not herself so we both are on the same line. If she learns to stand for herself that would be the best day of her life. Maybe in future this happens and as a woman she deserves the right to choose for herself.

I think i will not reply to that accident as we are not sure what exactly happened .. let's see what they will show in his hatred.. but if we think he udaaoed him in hatred.. he would have made sure prerna never met Anurag be it in hospital or at home,. because Bajaj is ruthless he is manipulative, he can do anything he wants to "only if he wanted to " .. so too early to talk abt accident

Let's wait for things to unfold themselves.... till now he accepted that he hit him in a fit of rage and then escaped. So I'll just comment on this thought process only. This shows the inner soul of Bajaj which is not what he projects to the world. He got scared for himself then and now he is scared for Anurag bcoz Anurag's death clearly means end of the deal between them and him suffering in jail and kuki suffering bcoz of this.

I again say that this is just on the basis of things shown so far and I'm also waiting for the track closure now.

regarding hero , leads .. jiska dil chaahe woh hero hai ..and I see them as characters rather than leads/heroes .. we obviously have different likes here .. so all cool

proper closures and redemptions are must for every character

I agree with you here😊

again thanks for sharing your views Manisha 🤗

You're most welcome Munni. Finally I managed to type on phone it's a tough job seriously

I agree we both would never be able to come to a consensus but that's what discussion is all about.

So thank you for this post as it's really difficult to have a healthy discussion here. But I hope I could express myself once again.

Loved reading you🤗

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: braveheartdoc


By deal with freedom I meant that he married her for kuki and she agreed to the deal for Anurag and his business and along with that loyalty which was expected from her. So loyalty clause here is something which is really a dubious one. Nothing has been clarified so far in this context. What exactly defines loyalty? Probably no-one can define here.

If we think that one fine day she decides to divorce him and lead her life with Anurag then he will attack Basus again as that was what he promised. And if Anurag dies here then is she free to leave him and lead a seperate life? Bcoz Anurag's life which was the basis of the deal isn't it. So just for the sake of saving Anurag so that he improves and survives and Prerna continues fulfilling her end of the deal he allowed her to meet and stay near him. This for me is a kind of restricted freedom for his own selfish interest. That happens as he has probably understood the depth of their love as he has been following them really closely.


He took a stand for her and I agree to his action here but at the same time he knows the reason for the wrath she is facing. It's him totally so instead he could have revealed the truth of the deal as that would save her from this daily torture. If he isn't doing bcoz she doesn't want him to do so then there are many other things which she wanted him not to do.... accident would be one of those obviously. I agree that nothing has been cleared but no-one can deny that he left an injured person there. He does what he wants to and that's how he is.....

See again I would say that it wasn't Anurag who started all this.... it was Bajaj who started with conspiracy to take over BP which was followed by this deal marriage and rest I feel everyone knows.

Here again she stood up for Anurag and not herself so we both are on the same line. If she learns to stand for herself that would be the best day of her life. Maybe in future this happens and as a woman she deserves the right to choose for herself.

Let's wait for things to unfold themselves.... till now he accepted that he hit him in a fit of rage and then escaped. So I'll just comment on this thought process only. This shows the inner soul of Bajaj which is not what he projects to the world. He got scared for himself then and now he is scared for Anurag bcoz Anurag's death clearly means end of the deal between them and him suffering in jail and kuki suffering bcoz of this.

You're most welcome Munni. Finally I managed to type on phone it's a tough job seriously smiley44

I agree we both would never be able to come to a consensus but that's what discussion is all about.

So thank you for this post as it's really difficult to have a healthy discussion here. But I hope I could express myself once again.

Loved reading yousmiley31




Manisha typing on the phone.. i can't even thinking of .. I haven't connected to IF on phone ever .. but kudos u type such long post on phone


@bold yess.. but for now let's give this a closure, we have our views and our understanding of each character is differnt.. let's keep it that way and nice to read yours smiley31

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: munnihyderabad



Manisha typing on the phone.. i can't even thinking of .. I haven't connected to IF on phone ever .. but kudos u type such long post on phone


@bold yess.. but for now let's give this a closure, we have our views and our understanding of each character is differnt.. let's keep it that way and nice to read yours smiley31

Even I used my laptop earlier but now that it's crashed I'm forced to use my phone 🤣 over the last few months ive used my phone for so many things that it refuses to help me many times 🤣 but yes it's difficult to do so thank you for appreciating. 🤗

Your second part I completely agree as we both have put forward our pov and there is nothing wrong in sharing and each other's views. But yes there is no end to this so better to give our discussion a closure. I enjoyed reading you and I thank you for this. 🤗

Take care 🤗

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Posted: 5 years ago
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i loved this post....and agree to everything written here❤️

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Posted: 5 years ago
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Dear Munni,

Thank you very much for interesting and eye opening post.

After long time, today episode brought the glimpse of happiness.

Prerna, she has forgotten all bitter past time in her life and fight back with Mohini to protect her love, Anurag's life. It was not the reason what Mr. Bajaj said to earn her self-respect. The results of what her mirror image influenced her to do. Her heart out asked her to do what she wants not what others want.

Prerna keeps happiness and motivations in life aside as she does not have a world to win without Anurag. The changed of her attributes after the marriage was clearly appeared. Mischievous, playful Prerna became silent, rarely smiled, voiceless girl.

However, she felt at last that she is going to loose her world, her Anurag forever, if she did not get any move to protect his life. Yes. her brain has already started to work after long time. That is why she said that no one could stop me that meant either Mr Bajaj or anyone else.

Prerna tears made influenced on Mr. Bajaj. One reason behind that is he has some attraction towards Prerna right now and other might be the any guys would not like to see or even think about ladies crying, weeping and their grievances in real life. Crying or weeping girls, ladies or wife make some influence, distress and faulty feelings on guys who are surrounded her.

Do you think Mr. Bajaj gave freedom to Prerna does what she wants? No. I agreed. He openly said that Prerna has right to take decision.

But he emphasized his authority on her as a husband. Look at the episode. When Mr. Bajaj entered the Anurag's room, he showed that Prerna sit in Anurag's bed side. He walked to Mohini by showing off he does not care Prerna's behavior. But, he totally collapsed inside.

That is why he said Mohini, Prerna is not my employee, she is my wife. Mr. Bajaj passed the message to Prerna looking at her eyes that You are my wife even though you take caring Anurag. He reminded Prerna to don't forget that relationship.

However, Mr. Bajaj is gradually changing exactly because of Prerna. He does not like to hurt her. He has some guilty in his mind and feel hesitation what he has done to Prerna and Anurag life. Thoughts to think.


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Posted: 5 years ago
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Originally posted by: masdhu

Dear Munni,

Thank you very much for interesting and eye opening post.

After long time, today episode brought the glimpse of happiness.

Prerna, she has forgotten all bitter past time in her life and fight back with Mohini to protect her love, Anurag's life. It was not the reason what Mr. Bajaj said to earn her self-respect. The results of what her mirror image influenced her to do. Her heart out asked her to do what she wants not what others want.

Prerna keeps happiness and motivations in life aside as she does not have a world to win without Anurag. The changed of her attributes after the marriage was clearly appeared. Mischievous, playful Prerna became silent, rarely smiled, voiceless girl.

However, she felt at last that she is going to loose her world, her Anurag forever, if she did not get any move to protect his life. Yes. her brain has already started to work after long time. That is why she said that no one could stop me that meant either Mr Bajaj or anyone else.

Prerna tears made influenced on Mr. Bajaj. One reason behind that is he has some attraction towards Prerna right now and other might be the any guys would not like to see or even think about ladies crying, weeping and their grievances in real life. Crying or weeping girls, ladies or wife make some influence, distress and faulty feelings on guys who are surrounded her.

Do you think Mr. Bajaj gave freedom to Prerna does what she wants? No. I agreed. He openly said that Prerna has right to take decision.

But he emphasized his authority on her as a husband. Look at the episode. When Mr. Bajaj entered the Anurag's room, he showed that Prerna sit in Anurag's bed side. He walked to Mohini by showing off he does not care Prerna's behavior. But, he totally collapsed inside.

That is why he said Mohini, Prerna is not my employee, she is my wife. Mr. Bajaj passed the message to Prerna looking at her eyes that You are my wife even though you take caring Anurag. He reminded Prerna to don't forget that relationship.

However, Mr. Bajaj is gradually changing exactly because of Prerna. He does not like to hurt her. He has some guilty in his mind and feel hesitation what he has done to Prerna and Anurag life. Thoughts to think.




thank you for sharing your views Masdhu , appreciate it !

prerna's playful and chirpiness is not there anymore but she was never voiceless, she fought with Mr.Bajaj 10s of times, accused him, blamed him, fought with him based on her assumptions until veena maa's track she always raised her voice with her husband and regarding her stand against Mohini in hospital is different from what she did today ... and even Mohini attributes it to Bajaj's words in hospital about respecting one self

I like your explanation of men not withstanding tears of women and here when he knows he is the reason.. he felt bad for her tears and said sorry,.. his emphasis of her being his wife he made it from day 1 and till today by referring her as "Mrs.Bajaj" or "My Wife" he is more like making a statement to Prerna and rest of them that she is his wife lest anyone forgets .. he cannot think of hurting her and she cannot think of hating him ... however he holds himself deep down that her tears are because of him, the same tears which had no effect on him back then ... are taking him down now ...

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