Hanuman's emotions for Babita - Page 12

Originally posted by: AreYaar

@bold: Exactly....that RIGHT.....the HAQ....I feel that will be the core around which everything will turn yet again.....they've built up so much regarding that uptil this point.....HS-Babita danced around a lot of things because of that aspect of haq.....now HS has given Babita the HAQ of a Makaanmaalkin....but once the actual wedding happens is when that HAQ will fully come into play.....for all three of them.....the haq of a husband over his wife....the haq of a wife over her husband....the haq of a father over his daughter.....the haq of a daughter over her father.

Yes, Mini-HS have already strengthened their bond through a lot of phases and already started jataaoing the haq of baap-beti over each other....but I feel this haq will take on new shades as they both balance it alongside their haq over Babita. I suspect some clashes will be inevitable.

And then there's Mini herself.....the writers are building up to big developments coming up for her as well as she begins to learn to think for herself, to let her Babes have the space to make her own decisions without any prompting, learning to think of her own emotional vulnerabilities.....

HS's insecurities/fears will likely all get addressed during that journey of haq between him and Babita.....I'm deffo curious to see how the writers balance it.

The vision is stupendous.....I'm floored by these writers so much......and I want to continue being floored by the writing first and foremost.....even though I feel wary of expecting too much.....lol....ah this conundrum.

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I am sure the clashes will be amazing to watch, as will their resolution and the message they will bring to us after each track. No wonder they said abhi to bas shuruat hai when Ashok left and fans were wondering if the show was going to end. This is the real start of the journey in many ways, for all 3. Pehle bas trailer tha, abhi picture start hogi.

I am waiting for the bapu day, but I feel it will take ages to get there or it might never happen.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

I keep coming back to the use of the Amrit Manthan analogy.....it's used so interestingly in the dialogues.

On one side, HS reflects on the fact that Babita has kept so much poison inside herself so many years, it has to be churned out to the surface, and HS will have to ingest it as it comes out of her.....then he also reflects on the fact that he is but a human being, not a God....so how will he live after ingesting all that poison?

It's so sad to think about.....Babita has spent so many years becoming the person she is.....this poison exists inside her....a man who loves her wants to help exorcise it out of her....but in the process, he too will be impacted by that poison....so that by the time the poison comes out of her, he will then instead become the one filled with poison?

And does the fact that both of them have poison inside them make them unworthy of love? Isn't that the whole story of life in a nutshell? Yeh zeher takes turns moving through us....kisi mein badhta hai, kisi mein ghat-ta hai.....it leaves an impact.....you cannot have a permanent rosy existence where no poison can exist because all are good.....as we see in this story, even people as good as HS and Babita can be forced to ingest and live with poison inside them for a myriad of reasons....despite their goodness, or perhaps BECAUSE of it....and the tragic irony being that that poison can then poison their happy relationships too. In a situation like this, you can't really begrudge a person....you can only feel for the overall tragedy of life circumstances for some.

The thought does stay with you that everything leaves a mark....good or bad....no word, no action happens in isolation....somewhere an imprint is left that can morph into different things as time passes.

Word. You have expressed exactly what I have been feeling. As HS said to Babita the other day when she talked about Lovely, that life is about ups and downs, people face good and bad, sweet, sour, bitter, etc. and have to deal with it. It leaves a mark but then you learn from it and grow (relates back to his analogy of the forward spiral of life).

Originally posted by: AreYaar

I would love there to be a track about her working towards calling him bapu but hope it will be natural without seeming forced, or maybe she will just say it out loud without realizing, stunning everyone. I can't wait to see the look on his face. I was hoping for dad vs. dad but if Ashok isn't returning to the show then it means there needs to be some kind of trigger for her to get there. Right now she is quite comfortable calling him Uncle, and he doesn't seem to mind. You know what would be interesting? If for the first time, instead of prioritizing giving her space and letting things go at her pace and comfort, he asks for something for his own self, that she calls him bapu or father or something.

The letting go of Imarti vs. reconciling his love for both women won't be solved so easily. He will struggle with it for a while, until Babita opens up to him and is ready to help him find his balance.

I do find it interesting that the show has kept it realistic enough in that it's not black and white....aisa nahin ki HS could only agree to marry Babita if he was over his insecurities.....no, he still wanted to marry her despite all these fears in his heart because his love for her helps him rise above those fears again and again.....it will in the future also.....he wants to be hopeful despite all the fears in his heart.....ki somehow it all will work out somehow.

This is why I love this show, that you continue to solve problems while staying together instead of working to make everything ok and then getting married to have a happily ever after. There is no such thing - relationships take work whatever stage in life you are at. As long as the foundation on which they build is the right one - both love each other and are basically good people - the rest will follow. They can strengthen the foundation over time through various experiences and growing to love, respect, and understand each other more and more.

I think I watched some of Sailaab way back....ofcourse that was the era when TV had classy, nuanced shows.....such shows sadly don't exist anymore.

Which is why I'm amazed PB is allowed to exist in today's TV scenario....it harks back to that old era of shows rich with emotions, nuanced explorations of human psyche etc.

Tell me about it... Those were the golden days... I really hope PB encourages other skeleton amazing writers to come to the fore and show us what they can do with their craft.

Originally posted by: inlieu

You mean will she admit that she finds his shakal drool-worthy?

Loll, I don't think she'll go as far as actually using the words drool-worthy. 😆 But anything close to it should work!

Originally posted by: inlieu

You mean will she admit that she finds his shakal drool-worthy?

LOLL Babita is Babita....she will complement him in her own way when the time comes.....😆....drool wagairah type words ki ummeed na rakhein Babes se😆.....she will convey her appreciation how she sees fit😆

Originally posted by: inlieu

Word. You have expressed exactly what I have been feeling. As HS said to Babita the other day when she talked about Lovely, that life is about ups and downs, people face good and bad, sweet, sour, bitter, etc. and have to deal with it. It leaves a mark but then you learn from it and grow (relates back to his analogy of the forward spiral of life).

Ah that Forward Spiral scene! Again, one of my favs....one of those scenes, which just made me fall in love with the show a little bit deeper

Everytime I think back to the many significant conversations that developed the story, the characters, my heart feels so full over what we've gotten here.

And yes, that is exactly why this show is special.....it explores the human psyche in all its shades....not just black and white.....life itself is a mix of so many flavors....they address that candidly without the pressure to make any character perfect.

Originally posted by: AreYaar

Arey, you don't need to thank me for that, man😆.....waise what's your name? I can call you asmaani, if that works😆

After ages, I have full faith in a set of writers too.....that said, I do feel that the episodes after the wedding will set the tone of the future of the show in a crucial manner, which is why I'm curious to see if the writers will manage to balance everything beautifully as they always do.....there's a lot to balance.....HS-Babita navigating the new phase of their relationship - intimacy, emotions, all that..... HMB adjusting to their new dynamics as a family post the wedding, a new layer of haq added to what they all feel for each other - and the adjustments that come with haq.....HS reconciling his past and present vis a vis Imarti and Babita....all of these will have to be balanced very sensitively.....because I feel ab ek naazuk waqt aane wala hai where these already sensitive emotions will have be handled even more sensitively.....and I want these writers to live up to my faith again.

LOLL, my name is Gurleen, but you can call me Gur if you'd like. 😳 Asmaani bohot ajeeb lagta hai. It's suits my writing ID better than me.

Yeahh, right now everyone is too caught up in the tham jhaam as you put it. Once all this happiness wanes off, and they have to settle down into their everyday routines, it'll hit them as to now they need to figure out how to function within these new dynamics.

It's going to be bumpy and a whole lot of awkwardness but they'll get through it. As mentioned in other posts, it'll be easier for HS & Minnie to work out the dynamics since they already have a cemented bond. Minnie will still have issues when it comes to Ashok, but she has no doubts about the fact that HS is her father. Same thing with HS, Minnie is his daughter. For Hanita, however, they have to work on a lot of the issues that pertain to them as individuals and as a couple. But the thing is that these individual & coupled issues aren't separate from each other. They're intricately intertwined and will need to be handled with a lot of sensitivity.

Originally posted by: inlieu

Correct, and that's what will make it everlasting but they are physically quite aware of each other, always have been.

Also, I cracked up on the reminder regarding his sundarta. He has already told her she is beautiful, khoobsoorat. Now it's her turn to tell him how strong and dashing he is, how handsome and charming, etc. We can assist her with vocabulary if she needs.

Oh, HS has called Babes a lot of things. He even called her kadak once and I was like HS! Beti ki samne maa ko kadak ni bulate. 🤣

Originally posted by: inlieu

I am waiting for the bapu day, but I feel it will take ages to get there or it might never happen.

LOLL, fikar not Jean! Tumhara bapu wala moment bhi ek din aaye ga. 😎