Is it the same deal? Is it a fair deal? - Page 2

Originally posted by: inlieu

In the precap it looked like a condition but I went and watched that scene a few times as I wrote my episode analysis.

That's precisely what HS is saying, that it's not fair to expect that Babita would accept him with his love for Imarti.

Lala is the one who told him, don't worry she already does. HS did not place such a condition at all. He is trying to be fair with Babita.

But the thing is this was always the case....HA knew that this is the situation but he actually made her develop those feelings as at first she was only concerned abt her daughter...her life revolved around only her ....she noticed that HS had feelings for her but was not open for it..slowly she started thinking abt it ...that is when she started asking the same Q to herself ...like sometimes in life v lose hopes and get used to or try to be used to our surroundings ...but if v get someone in life who get’s those hopes back then to go back is equally difficult ....here same happened ....Babita slowly started falling for HS but he made the first move ...not sure why he did that ...if he is so smart and so thoughtful wouldn’t it have been good if he would have thought of all consequences earlier...and then this lady is not a normal one ...she has gone thru a lot so as much as u have supported her when she was alone by doing this u are just doing the reverse...u r breaking her off completely ...also now since she has helped him in proving himself innocent (though that case for not make sense since it closed easily) yet what they showed is that it was because of Babita that HS has been proven innocent ...so now this is a balance...no one has done anything for the other now ...means the help or support is equal here....so Babita also has done her part ...at this moment the more intelligent part would have been ..HS saying sorry to Babita for what he said to her ...as whatever was the bg ....what he said was extremely disgraceful ....he could have said sorry for his words ....Babita has anyway now done what she was expected to to...also now him talking abt Inmatri and his love is little confusing as all the while when he tried to shower his love on her ...he had not remembered Imarti...there were many small small incidents thn which proved that ...like him getting the dosa wala or the chudiyon wala incident or her sitting on his bike many more incidents when he never visualised Imarti...suddenly him only remembering Imarti does not make any sense ....and if all this is true then him being behind her then does not make sense ...if u realise by doing this he has not made her gain confidence but while she was on her path to become independent he has agn made her weak...made her realise she needs someone...made her fall in love means go in that direction when she had lost sense of it all....now suddenly he has realised Imarti is still part of his life...so what abt Babita now ....pls think over abt what I have written from Babita’s angle .....now probably writers are confused ...they can’t evn show HS go back to Babita after he has claimed he is in love with Imarti....do u also realise that how suddenly he has started talking now ....while his father in law asked him if he Can think of Babita for second marriage he clearly says not interested ...he does not seem evn confused ....agn question arises why he did not seem so confident earlier on ...was Babita not written all over him then....if I recollect way he rushed back from his camp after listening to a song ...very contradictory feelings statements ...having said that if that is the case then I don’t feel he deserves Babita ...Babita has been caring in recent times ...her nature is shy ...HS is stronger but his attitude is confusing ...for me he has to get her back and that is important here...he has to be clear abt wat he wants ....he has to say sorry to her for the way he treated her ...if it was due to what happened then why is saying sorry so difficult...he has to make her feel special as I don’t want her to feel the same like she did last time when she was married ....she needs to be loved in real sense....either HS understands this and tries to get her back agn or thn they close it here...Babita needs to get someone who really loves her and am sure she would be equally caring towards that person...it is just that wat she has gone thru will not allow her to take rejections again and again ...she might want to instead be alone ....Coz u don’t want to b shattered whn u are already shattered...it just breaks u more and u might break off completely....

Well that's why HS realized he made a mistake and had to do penance. He thought he had gotten over Imarti's death but recent events showed him he hadn't.

Now that he has reconciled with SS I think it will free up his mind to think about things. Also, he didn't make Babita fall in love with him. She started developing feelings over time. It could have been that she never felt that way about him but she did. Love just happens, not planned on either side. He must apologize and give her the choice on what to do. He does want her but is afraid he can't do justice with her so he backed off. The day he feels he is ready, nothing will stop him from opener expressing his feelings.

As for what you said about Babita, I totally understand her perspective. Now she must decide herself how to find her happiness. With or without him.

Originally posted by: inlieu

Well that's why HS realized he made a mistake and had to do penance. He thought he had gotten over Imarti's death but recent events showed him he hadn't.

Now that he has reconciled with SS I think it will free up his mind to think about things. Also, he didn't make Babita fall in love with him. She started developing feelings over time. It could have been that she never felt that way about him but she did. Love just happens, not planned on either side. He must apologize and give her the choice on what to do. He does want her but is afraid he can't do justice with her so he backed off. The day he feels he is ready, nothing will stop him from opener expressing his feelings.

As for what you said about Babita, I totally understand her perspective. Now she must decide herself how to find her happiness. With or without him.

Hmmm love happens ...what I meant was she started seeing hope because of him ...otherwise her mind was closed....

For me her moving out of his house is a good decision...this will help both...

Hs because he will know what he wants ...he has to decide if he wants to live life alone with Imarti’s memories or he wants Babita in his life...whether he wants a family as it is not only him supporting them but also he needs their support here which he also needs to realise ...

Babita because I think she can manage it on her own but lacks confidence and the only way to gain it is to go out and experiment ...face it all alone with no support ....this will also make her more independent...she also will get a chance to understand her feelings ....as love is something which will not be dependent on your business success...here by becoming independent still if she feels she needs someone not for supporting in her work but to be a real life partner then I think she knows what she wants aswell...

In the process they come together or then they do not ...more important is that they find themselves and decide ...also if they come together they do that with complete acceptance

And this why I've been saying that what has happened so far is rushed. It's too early for them. They need time to properly assess the situation and calm their minds to think through what they want. Once they decide, it should be aar ya paar.

Originally posted by: Reshmi.parekh78

But the thing is this was always the case....HA knew that this is the situation but he actually made her develop those feelings as at first she was only concerned abt her daughter...her life revolved around only her ....she noticed that HS had feelings for her but was not open for it..slowly she started thinking abt it ...that is when she started asking the same Q to herself ...like sometimes in life v lose hopes and get used to or try to be used to our surroundings ...but if v get someone in life who get’s those hopes back then to go back is equally difficult ....here same happened ....Babita slowly started falling for HS but he made the first move ...not sure why he did that ...if he is so smart and so thoughtful wouldn’t it have been good if he would have thought of all consequences earlier...and then this lady is not a normal one ...she has gone thru a lot so as much as u have supported her when she was alone by doing this u are just doing the reverse...u r breaking her off completely ...also now since she has helped him in proving himself innocent (though that case for not make sense since it closed easily) yet what they showed is that it was because of Babita that HS has been proven innocent ...so now this is a balance...no one has done anything for the other now ...means the help or support is equal here....so Babita also has done her part ...at this moment the more intelligent part would have been ..HS saying sorry to Babita for what he said to her ...as whatever was the bg ....what he said was extremely disgraceful ....he could have said sorry for his words ....Babita has anyway now done what she was expected to to...also now him talking abt Inmatri and his love is little confusing as all the while when he tried to shower his love on her ...he had not remembered Imarti...there were many small small incidents thn which proved that ...like him getting the dosa wala or the chudiyon wala incident or her sitting on his bike many more incidents when he never visualised Imarti...suddenly him only remembering Imarti does not make any sense ....and if all this is true then him being behind her then does not make sense ...if u realise by doing this he has not made her gain confidence but while she was on her path to become independent he has agn made her weak...made her realise she needs someone...made her fall in love means go in that direction when she had lost sense of it all....now suddenly he has realised Imarti is still part of his life...so what abt Babita now ....pls think over abt what I have written from Babita’s angle .....now probably writers are confused ...they can’t evn show HS go back to Babita after he has claimed he is in love with Imarti....do u also realise that how suddenly he has started talking now ....while his father in law asked him if he Can think of Babita for second marriage he clearly says not interested ...he does not seem evn confused ....agn question arises why he did not seem so confident earlier on ...was Babita not written all over him then....if I recollect way he rushed back from his camp after listening to a song ...very contradictory feelings statements ...having said that if that is the case then I don’t feel he deserves Babita ...Babita has been caring in recent times ...her nature is shy ...HS is stronger but his attitude is confusing ...for me he has to get her back and that is important here...he has to be clear abt wat he wants ....he has to say sorry to her for the way he treated her ...if it was due to what happened then why is saying sorry so difficult...he has to make her feel special as I don’t want her to feel the same like she did last time when she was married ....she needs to be loved in real sense....either HS understands this and tries to get her back agn or thn they close it here...Babita needs to get someone who really loves her and am sure she would be equally caring towards that person...it is just that wat she has gone thru will not allow her to take rejections again and again ...she might want to instead be alone ....Coz u don’t want to b shattered whn u are already shattered...it just breaks u more and u might break off completely....

I understand she is deeply hurt by HS words. As for HS apologizing, yes he should. But has Babitha apologized for doubting his intentions in camera incident? Wasn't she accusing him of bribing her daughter to reach to her.? Wasnt it disgraceful? Or a man's self respect does not matter? But he forgave her without asking. Can't she forgive him considering how much he has done for them?

About babitha being loved first she should learn to love someone unconditionally. Love is a two way deal. HS loved and respected her even after her rejection. Will she do that nw? If she can't forgive the man she loves one time that too when he himself was in extreme pain how can she love anyone? I am not saying she should forgive him just like that. She should go and slap him first. Then forgive and forget it. But she is thinking of taking his daughter away from him . Doesn't she understand her daughter will be the one suffering most? If she loses father for second time will she be able to handle it? For once let us think about a child who was betrayed by her father. Let her happiness be the first priority.

Originally posted by: Jiarao

We all know Babitha has gone through a lot. But she is not the only one who has suffered in this whole ordeal. Minnie has been equally hurt. Babitha was betrayed by her husband but Minnie was hurt by her own FATHER. For every daughter her father is hero. Can anyone imagine what a teenage daughter would feel when she comes to know that her father has been cheating on her and her mother? Even after that she could have forgiven him and let him take her responsibility. After all he was her father. But she didn't do that. She stood for her mother. Walked into unknown world. With this she lost the opportunity of remaining a child. Later she sacrificed her dream for her mother's self respect. If only Babitha had put her self respect behind and thought of Minnie's future she would have accepted alimony and Minnie would have been saved from going into depression. This time again she is putting her self respect above her daughter's happiness. We can blame HS for his behaviour towards Babitha but we can't deny the fact he has been a great father to Minnie in every sense possible. He has given all the love, a feeling of safety and much needed guidance in her teenage years. Babitha might be right in distancing herself from HS. But she is wrong in distancing Minnie from her father.

I understand she is deeply hurt by HS words. As for HS apologizing, yes he should. But has Babitha apologized for doubting his intentions in camera incident? Wasn't she accusing him of bribing her daughter to reach to her.? Wasnt it disgraceful? Or a man's self respect does not matter? But he forgave her without asking. Can't she forgive him considering how much he has done for them?

About babitha being loved first she should learn to love someone unconditionally. Love is a two way deal. HS loved and respected her even after her rejection. Will she do that nw? If she can't forgive the man she loves one time that too when he himself was in extreme pain how can she love anyone? I am not saying she should forgive him just like that. She should go and slap him first. Then forgive and forget it. But she is thinking of taking his daughter away from him . Doesn't she understand her daughter will be the one suffering most? If she loses father for second time will she be able to handle it? For once let us think about a child who was betrayed by her father. Let her happiness be the first priority.

Point was different ....but anyways all these views now and the chapter comes to a stand still 😀 as the marriage is happening