Is it the same deal? Is it a fair deal?

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Hi there. Just watched the last episode. That conversation between the lovely Lala and HS made me wonder. So I’ve another question for you lovely wise people-

HS to accept Babita with her past - an abusive husband from whom she has not only separated on paper but also in her heart. We witnessed her dance. when she realised she was free of him. She has a daughter who adores and idolises him. Yeah Babita has some baggage. Her old age in-laws. But they’re like her parents. Most importantly, they like and respect him. As an aside, Babita is financially independent .

Babita to accept HS with his past- a deceased wife who he cannot forget. In his own words to Lala - she lives in his heart in his soul in his breath. He thinks he has nothing to offer. But he has a condition- Babita must accept him along with his ever lasting love for his deceased wife.

Is it the same deal? Is it a fair deal? Is marrying a divorcee with a grownup child same emotionally and physically as marrying an individual who still carries a fire for his lost love? Would their happiness quotient be the same in the relationship? What must Babita do? Bend her will for the man?

Sorry 😐 that’s more than one question

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Posted: 6 years ago
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In the precap it looked like a condition but I went and watched that scene a few times as I wrote my episode analysis.

That's precisely what HS is saying, that it's not fair to expect that Babita would accept him with his love for Imarti.

Lala is the one who told him, don't worry she already does. HS did not place such a condition at all. He is trying to be fair with Babita.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: inlieu

In the precap it looked like a condition but I went and watched that scene a few times as I wrote my episode analysis.

That's precisely what HS is saying, that it's not fair to expect that Babita would accept him with his love for Imarti.

Lala is the one who told him, don't worry she already does. HS did not place such a condition at all. He is trying to be fair with Babita.

Yes he was saying that he wasn't fair to her as Imarti is still in his soul and heart .

@TM - I think forgetting a wronged relationship is much easier than erasing memories of a true love which is not there anymore.. Babita's past has been carried forward by her fears for new life with a man.. and HS ' s fear is to not be able to do justice to Babita's love and in fact also Imarti's love for that matter. It is not that simple but I liked both of their individual confession of the situation between them.. they still long way to have that trust in each other to build this new budding relationship more stronger.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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I wonder if him not being able to forget imarti is to do with guilt and self blame more than his love for her. When someone close to us dies nearly every single person goes thru a period of self blame, whether it’s thinking about a mean thing they’ve said to the person or questioning if they’ve done enough. In this case it’s probably eating him up from the inside that he was the one who forced her death on her by forcing the issue of the operation when she didn’t want to. As we seen when they left for the hospital she was not in a terrible state and could of had weeks or even months more. Add to that the letter written to her father where she says she does not want the operation.

He can’t still be “in love” with imarti as he’s fallen for babita, but I think imarti haunts him due to the guilt he feels.

To answer your question I don’t think it’s a fair deal I think it’s a different deal. With time he will get over his guilt when he’s made to realise that her death weren’t his fault- it’s a natural reaction to want an operation when a terminal person is told that it could help fix them. It obviously doesn’t help that her father blames him which will kind of reaffirm his guilt. Once he gets over the guilt, imarti will be a pleasant memory instead of a hurtful one.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: deefy89

I wonder if him not being able to forget imarti is to do with guilt and self blame more than his love for her. When someone close to us dies nearly every single person goes thru a period of self blame, whether it’s thinking about a mean thing they’ve said to the person or questioning if they’ve done enough. In this case it’s probably eating him up from the inside that he was the one who forced her death on her by forcing the issue of the operation when she didn’t want to. As we seen when they left for the hospital she was not in a terrible state and could of had weeks or even months more. Add to that the letter written to her father where she says she does not want the operation.

He can’t still be “in love” with imarti as he’s fallen for babita, but I think imarti haunts him due to the guilt he feels.

To answer your question I don’t think it’s a fair deal I think it’s a different deal. With time he will get over his guilt when he’s made to realise that her death weren’t his fault- it’s a natural reaction to want an operation when a terminal person is told that it could help fix them. It obviously doesn’t help that her father blames him which will kind of reaffirm his guilt. Once he gets over the guilt, imarti will be a pleasant memory instead of a hurtful one.

I am actually sure that it's his guilt that is the reason. If he hadn't been in this dilemma back then, and had not been in a situation where he had to choose between two difficult options, then he would remember her differently. Ideally, when he heals, he would look back and remember their time spent together and their love with happiness, and of course miss her. However, this would not overtake his mind and heart to the point where he can't see beyond the cloud of pain as he currently is. He can remember her fondly all he wants, that would never be an issue.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: riti4u

Yes he was saying that he wasn't fair to her as Imarti is still in his soul and heart .

@TM - I think forgetting a wronged relationship is much easier than erasing memories of a true love which is not there anymore.. Babita's past has been carried forward by her fears for new life with a man.. and HS ' s fear is to not be able to do justice to Babita's love and in fact also Imarti's love for that matter. It is not that simple but I liked both of their individual confession of the situation between them.. they still long way to have that trust in each other to build this new budding relationship more stronger.

Yes, let's enjoy the ride and watch them slowly come closer, in an organic way.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: inlieu

I am actually sure that it's his guilt that is the reason. If he hadn't been in this dilemma back then, and had not been in a situation where he had to choose between two difficult options, then he would remember her differently. Ideally, when he heals, he would look back and remember their time spent together and their love with happiness, and of course miss her. However, this would not overtake his mind and heart to the point where he can't see beyond the cloud of pain as he currently is. He can remember her fondly all he wants, that would never be an issue.

I agree. Beautifully put.

He was always going to have guilt tho weren’t he? If he didn’t convince her to have the operation he would carry the guilt that he could have saved her life if he did more. And if he did convince her and something went wrong she he will carry guilt that it’s his fault (as is currently).

He seemed to have done well to put it aside if he managed to fall in love with babita. Till it all came back up again. Hopefully this time he can put it to bed once and for all and finally be free of everything haunting him. It’s no wonder he spent his time drinking after she died. It wouldn’t have been fun being alone in their home with everything haunting him

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: deefy89

I agree. Beautifully put.

He was always going to have guilt tho weren’t he? If he didn’t convince her to have the operation he would carry the guilt that he could have saved her life if he did more. And if he did convince her and something went wrong she he will carry guilt that it’s his fault (as is currently).

He seemed to have done well to put it aside if he managed to fall in love with babita. Till it all came back up again. Hopefully this time he can put it to bed once and for all and finally be free of everything haunting him. It’s no wonder he spent his time drinking after she died. It wouldn’t have been fun being alone in their home with everything haunting him

He was using alcohol to avoid facing reality and dealing with the finality of her death. As NB said, Babita had somehow managed to sneak in between his memories of Imarti and make her own place.

As for his guilt, well yeah he was in a situation where he was damned no matter which decision he took.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Thank you all for your insights. You’re all so talented!

Yes I agree with your general point of view that it’s more his guilt that’s driven him crazy. I do hope he and Babita will get together. Two broken hearts will mend and become one. Who better to spend rest of your life with than someone who has been there seen all and felt all.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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For my 2 cents its like this on deal.

HS - Imati, Nayeem Be and Lally

Babita - Mini, Beeji and Bhuaji

I think its even so far.

The only thing is who's Ego is the biggest here is the question and who will give in first as it is now a battle of pride and wills etc now.

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