Kabir singh and the outrage - a long series of questions - Page 5

Originally posted by: LifeOLicious

^Ya society is full of impressionable adults. You think a 21 yr old is an adult who knows everything and is wise enough? Also tell me why do adults act stupid all the time? It is sad indeed. Society is full of impressionable people who think Kabir’s love is pure love or some shit like that! Lol! This is why this movie is bad & needs to be criticized like no tomorrow regardless of how much money it makes.

I understand the 21 year old thing. But to some the film did resonate as a love story because Preetis consent was also involved by showing her blushing, as a love sick puppy when they are separated ...maintaining a long distance relationship, and the way she stands up to her parents for him.

She’s does like him too and he likes her aswell. She initiated the sex aswell. She slaps him back when she feels he’s being an ass...I did think eventually she got her agency and her sense of equality in the relationship

Her initial silence made me uncomfortable but that could just be her being unfamiliar with her surroundings on the first day of college...she might have either liked him aswell and went along is we see her blushing / smiling soon after their initial meeting

Originally posted by: niyati13

Ya agree with what u say. I m quite baffled that people who praised Ranveer to the sky for his portrayal of Khilji are bashing Shahid for taking up this movie .Khilji was a tyrant who destroyed many bcoz of his massive ego and lust. Padmavat glorified that villain..and people actually made fun of Shahid who portrayed the 'character' given to him as he was told to.

If u condemn one why glorify other..bash both equally. And if they r to be praised for their act..praise them equally.

I like Ranveer as a performer so m not a hater

and strange part of it all is that Khilji was an actual real historical character and Kabir Singh is fictional.

i like shahid n I haven’t seen the movie yet but heating all of this does put me off if it has been glorified...wrong actions should not be glorified...you mentioned dirty picture...I didn’t like that character one bit but vidya’s acting was indeed amazing n yes all this extra marital “love” being justified with love ballads n what not is so not cool...

Haven't seen the movie but there was a recent discussion about a topic where sunny deol said that darr glorified the villain and his obsession.

There were pages on pages about how SrK played a character and how he nailed his role etc etc

Now some of them are finding problems with Shahids character being glorified in the movie..

Originally posted by: Charaiveti

Not to mention a tyrant ruler coming to destroy us is not gonna happen in this era. But guys like Kabir r still there,n they make women's life hell everyday . The typical guy that doesn't take no as answer, molests u in the name of love,keeps u suppressed, will have anger outbursts then make u feel guilty for it, the chichoras who sing n make catcalls on the streets, the guys who claim a woman saying ye Meri bandi hai, without even asking her. Yesab roj dkhte h humlog aspas

Roz dekhte ho to film me dekhne se kya problem hai..

Film aane se pehle bhi agar aise log hai society me to is baat ke liye film Ko responsible kaise Bata sakte hai?

And inspite of such people being in and around us in the society...there r adults who are able to differentiate good from bad..they will still be able to do that from the movie without being influenced

Originally posted by: Charaiveti

Not to mention a tyrant ruler coming to destroy us is not gonna happen in this era. But guys like Kabir r still there,n they make women's life hell everyday . The typical guy that doesn't take no as answer, molests u in the name of love,keeps u suppressed, will have anger outbursts then make u feel guilty for it, the chichoras who sing n make catcalls on the streets, the guys who claim a woman saying ye Meri bandi hai, without even asking her. Yesab roj dkhte h humlog aspas

Also, kehne wale ye bhi keh sakte hai ki such people even existed historically in the past..so all these vices r not about modern era

I haven't seen both movies tbh but have a fair jist of the premise and I may be wrong (correct me if so).

There is a difference in being a flawed human being who is self destructive , takes questionable career and personal life decisions like Silk did i.e. affairs, tanking movies, alcoholism etc.

What Kabir singh propagates is you are making a hero out of a violent man - it has little to do with sexism and more to do with encouraging toxic relationships and painting them with the colour of passion. I definitely agree all kinds of movies should be made with all kinds of characters - good and bad and downright evil like Khijli ( but he was a character who was from ancient times) not current.

India, hell Southeast Asia has problematic men who fantasize about women who are sacrificial and 'marked' by them like some property. In turn it normalizes such men to women. Its okay to have such characters, but how you portray them thats whats important. Rest I cannot say until I watch the movie and how it is handled.

I haven't watched Kabir Singh only Arjun Reddy. Recently, when I was reading reviews of Kabir Singh, I was surprised that such questions raise on the movie. Though I understood where these reviews were coming from, I didn't understand why it should be made into an issue. Movies are not about telling only stories of so called righteous men and women. If one can appreciate people like Murad and Safeena, then they should also acknowledge existence of people like Kabir and Preeti.

Kabir is a fictional character so is Preeti. I know many say a movie is reflection of our society. I don't know if Kabir Singh is reflection of any society. Maybe it could be. It could be reflection of a society that we are not aware of. India is a vast country, one cannot be too aware of everything.

Is Kabir glorified?

Well, for me, Arjun wasn't glorified. I saw him as a dark, sad man with so much issues in his mind that I didn't know how he slept at night. My major problem with the movie was actually the fact that they let him work at the hospital. No matter how good he was, he didn't deserve to be a doctor with that kind of instability.

Preeti irritated me from the time when he asks her oh no he doesn't ask, he just tells her to come with him for teaching her outside college and she follows him like a puppy.

Many appreciated the friend's character in the movie for standing by Arjun through thick and thin. (Does the friend have main character in Kabir Singh as well?) I really felt if he was that good of a friend, he should have just taken Arjun to a psychiatrist and put him in rehabilitation.

There was this scene about his affair with an actress. I don't remember how that ended. It's been over a year since I watched the movie. So, I am not going to comment on it. However, I guess he tells her he can't be in a serious relationship with her. Right? I am not sure though.

In spite of all this why I didn't think Arjun Reddy is a film that should not have been made or its 'misogynist' favourite word of everyone nowadays ? Well, because it's a movie. As much as people ( note majorly politicians) think a movie is going to change a society over night, its not.

A movie like Dirty picture is not going to make every woman in the country to acknowledge her sexuality, a movie like Padmavat isn't going to make woman go jump in fire, a movie like chak De not going to make everyone turn from cricket to hockey, similarly a movie like Arjun Reddy/ Kabir Singh isn't going to make boys turn to Arjun and girls to Preeti.

It wasn't promoted as a romantic film back in South, I don't know if that's what promotions of Kabir Singh made the film sound like, but we all from the start knew it was a movie about a disoriented character Arjun. So, romance is ruled out already. This movie had a love story that's where line is drawn, no romance.

Vijay Deverkonda is loved not because women saw him as Arjun Reddy, it's only because he is good looking. So, no one is taking romance lessons from Arjun here.

So, why does the bad guy end up getting the girl? Shouldn't karma teach him a lesson?

Hello!! This is a MOVIE. Things happen here with the soul aim to give the audience who paid 300 bugs a happy smile before he exits the theatre.

There are some movies that are close to reality , some totally fictional and some thread in between.

If one is a movie lover, they know what to expect from the movie they are about to watch.

Btw, karma doesn't work so impartially even in real life and we want it for movies? How cute!

Many movies that are protested against actually doesn't cause half the damage in society like it's expected to.

Arjun Reddy released two years ago, very popular in all south states. I am pretty sure 90% population between 18 to 30 must have watched the movie. I have not seen anyone idolise the characters , copy them, take inspiration from them. In fact it's not even the most favourite for many. Everyone only saw it as a movie well made. Why make a mountain out of mole hill and give free promotion to movie and bring to attention things that many would have just forgotten after exiting the cinema hall?

Can we not see a movie as a movie?

I saw few discussions in the thread regarding Padmavat and Khilj's screen space in the movie. I have heard many say Khilj is glorified in the movie. I just want to ask those people only one thing. How did you guys expect the movie to be? Genuinely curious.

I think people are having problem with the narrative. It will take a few years for India to realize!

let it make all the money.. it won't age well though!

But then again, it's bollywood.. who cares if it's a good film or if it has any social impact.. let's us make that moolah