Sacrifice... Really ?! - Page 4

Originally posted by: ReadLo

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That was to be expected.

She will become a daughter-in-law, Jatila had already told Ugrapat that she wanted a daughter-in-law who would take responsibility. So let's go to Saas-Bahu version Jatila evil!

Yah. Basically it has become a cliche as per to the Indian shows since days. Villain attempts to murder lead's father - villain successfullly blackmails his way to marry a lead mere hours before lead pair getting married - the leads cry buckets - post marriage saas-bahu catfight - husband-ex boyfriend occassional passive aggressive cold war - audience calming scenes between leads with romantic BG music. And also always the reason behind the sacrifice is 'saving the dad's life/company/respect.'

The only difference is ->

Usually none of the leads know that the said villain is the murderer and only the comatose dad knows. So there our RK is special and unique. Kudos to that.

Originally posted by: stormborn

Yah. Basically it has become a cliche as per to the Indian shows since days. Villain attempts to murder lead's father - villain successfullly blackmails his way to marry a lead mere hours before lead pair getting married - the leads cry buckets - post marriage saas-bahu catfight - husband-ex boyfriend occassional passive aggressive cold war - audience calming scenes between leads with romantic BG music. And also always the reason behind the sacrifice is 'saving the dad's life/company/respect.'

The only difference is ->

Usually none of the leads know that the said villain is the murderer and only the comatose dad knows. So there our RK is special and unique. Kudos to that.

I completely agree with you, Stormborn.

They will fill us with their moment of flashback or they will play with dreams, because doing things in reality will be complicated. If they do, I say congratulations!

As I said if I wanted to see some nonsense, I would have put on a series of Ekta Kapoor, she's the champion for it.

RK is not responsible, Krishna is in charge!

Radha only follows what Krishna tells her. She told Krishna several times that she can't, she cried, but she never took a stand for her ideas! That's what pissed me off the most. And then the scene on the square... I think my tension has gone up from the stage!

Sumedh says that for some scenes, they didn't need glycerin, I can believe it... I too would have cried with affliction to play this kind of scene and not in the sense that it's sad, but that it's really depressing to see that a God is always crying! Even MahaDev is crying? Especially knowing that MahaDev's tears are dangerous, here he cried normal, without pressure... To support his Aaradhya.

That's why I tell myself the truth is never going to come out! And if she comes out, what will happen?

Vrishban will forgive for the good of his daughter, he cannot punish her "husband and in-laws".

Jatila will never give up and for Ayan, who knows, maybe he'll calm down, saying he still had Radha after all!

I talked to Gayatri (RainFire125) about what I think of the suite with 3 possibilities, and yet I don't like anything. The rest is just an endless hole!

Originally posted by: ReadLo

I completely agree with you, Stormborn.

They will fill us with their moment of flashback or they will play with dreams, because doing things in reality will be complicated. If they do, I say congratulations!

As I said if I wanted to see some nonsense, I would have put on a series of Ekta Kapoor, she's the champion for it.

RK is not responsible, Krishna is in charge!

Radha only follows what Krishna tells her. She told Krishna several times that she can't, she cried, but she never took a stand for her ideas! That's what pissed me off the most. And then the scene on the square... I think my tension has gone up from the stage!

Sumedh says that for some scenes, they didn't need glycerin, I can believe it... I too would have cried with affliction to play this kind of scene and not in the sense that it's sad, but that it's really depressing to see that a God is always crying! Even MahaDev is crying? Especially knowing that MahaDev's tears are dangerous, here he cried normal, without pressure... To support his Aaradhya.

That's why I tell myself the truth is never going to come out! And if she comes out, what will happen?

Vrishban will forgive for the good of his daughter, he cannot punish her "husband and in-laws".

Jatila will never give up and for Ayan, who knows, maybe he'll calm down, saying he still had Radha after all!

I talked to Gayatri (RainFire125) about what I think of the suite with 3 possibilities, and yet I don't like anything. The rest is just an endless hole!

@bold The worst part about it is, it's basically the last vikaar they showed and Radha is supposed to have overcome it.

@red Ayan either will take sanyas for real or become a hermit at home after being whitewashed. Usually in shows they eventually show the heroine to accept the husband after he changes and become a normal couple, consummate, have kids etc. But that is impossible even for them to show a goddess doing all those with a human.

And I too am pretty sure or rather worried that the truth will never come out because even though Vrishban forgives them, his 'laadli' can't forgive her Baba's murderer. Or she can after Krishna manipulates her ? Arrgghhh that will be even worse. Basically the creatives are like Abhimanyu. Their intentions were probably good but now they have themselves entered a Chakravyuh without organising a way out. The difference is, this Chakravyuh is made by themselves and not an opponent party.

@blue Possibilities ?

Originally posted by: stormborn

@bold The worst part about it is, it's basically the last vikaar they showed and Radha is supposed to have overcome it.

@red Ayan either will take sanyas for real or become a hermit at home after being whitewashed. Usually in shows they eventually show the heroine to accept the husband after he changes and become a normal couple, consummate, have kids etc. But that is impossible even for them to show a goddess doing all those with a human.

And I too am pretty sure or rather worried that the truth will never come out because even though Vrishban forgives them, his 'laadli' can't forgive her Baba's murderer. Or she can after Krishna manipulates her ? Arrgghhh that will be even worse. Basically the creatives are like Abhimanyu. Their intentions were probably good but now they have themselves entered a Chakravyuh without organising a way out. The difference is, this Chakravyuh is made by themselves and not an opponent party.

@blue Possibilities ?

Bold: Radha is supposed to be like you say the important word here is "supposed to be".

Radha may have overcome what has been shown to be "fear, attraction, anger, jealousy and ego", but she remains Radha Vrishban's daughter. You have to remember the scene after Krishna killed the last asore. She said "I am the daughter of the mukhiya Vrishban", so her identity is clearly shown, she is attached to her father. On the other hand, she tells Krishna that she loves her so much, that she can't imagine her life without him, but Krishna tells her to be strong, that she has to help her so that they can make sure they can save Vrishban... So who is Radha?

Red: For Ayan, no matter what direction his character takes as you say, we usually see that the couple becomes a real couple, but here we won't see it. They're going to let the character do penance for his bullshit, he's going to apologize to Radha, but at the time the divorce didn't exist so she's going to continue as she started, being only the daughter-in-law, but never a wife.

This truth I think we'll just have to forget it. Even this Radha gets angry with Ayan, what can she do? Go back to his parents' house?

Oh yes Krishna will be able to play the smartest and make her understand that they must forgive and move on. And I agree with you it'll be worse!

They ruined everything with this wedding thing. They shouldn't have made Krishna want things humanely, they shouldn't have made everyone know that RK loves each other. They should have left it as a mystery and left the single couple alone.

They even ruined the symbol of the "Raas", I was so angry when they showed that Krishna used it to manipulate Vrishban that I said it was over, there is no turning back.

Blue: these are my possibilities

At the end we see Krishna crying (and still crying...) and MahaDev coming, I didn't listen to what they said, because MahaDev cries too... As I had my fill, I jumped, I just heard Jatila tell Radha that now that she lives at home, she can no longer contact Krishna.

Then Radha goes to her room to cry, she says that Krishna promised her one last gift, but he has forgotten it and we see a parrot saying "Radhe Radhe".

In the precap:

Radha tells Ayan that he knows as well as she does, that it is not a marriage because there is no love.

- So here for Radha the important point in a marriage is love. This is not about duty! So his sacrifice, you'll have to explain to me what it was?!

Then she told Ayan that they are not husbands and wives, and that they will never be.

- So she makes Ayan understand that she will never consider him as her husband, and that he should not wait for this to happen one day.

It is up to the part where she warns Jatila not to do anything that will make her see her otherwise, otherwise it will not be good for her.

Jatila promises to make her pay for it.

Here it gives 2 possibilities or even 3!

The first one with Jatila, we're going to have a Saas-Bahu drama, because we know Radha, she never goes against adults, but if Jatila talks about her parents, she might really get angry. So Ayan and Jatila would have to say something about Vrishban so that she could find out the truth about them. But we know it's a vain dream, so she'll just suffer and say nothing. She will dream of the life she had with Krishna as her husband and Yashoda as her mother-in-law....

(My favorite) The second: Radha will make it clear to Ayan that he is not her husband, so not to expect anything from her, that she will do so in front of the world, but that for her, he will always remain her childhood friend. So she will be Radha Rani, the daughter-in-law of the Ugrapat family, but nothing else.

This will mean in the eyes of the CV's Radha, will be a daughter-in-law, but never a wife. It will take her time to free herself from the chains, but she will still end up joining Krishna. She's going to cut herself in half.

In the morning she is Radha the daughter-in-law

In the evening she is Radha from Krishna.

The third worst of all: Ayan who knows that Radha does not consider him as her husband will continue to plan with Kans to kill Krishna, now that Radha is far from Krishna, he thinks he can achieve his goals.... He won't say anything when Jatila is going to torture Radha, because even now he loves Radha and he has become her husband, Radha doesn't love her and he starts to hate her....

Balram will ask Krishna why he's not doing anything, after all they did it so she could have a good life.

Krishna will say that it is not yet time for him to kill Kans (even in interviews it is said that Krishna says it is time to leave, it is his human part that speaks and not Narayan...)

Well then only the demonic CV's know what they wrote, I'm only going to assume, it's going to be a mixture of the 3 ideas, so we're going to come up with a Radha who will break her chains when she has enough people trapped in duty, rules, etc.... To go join Krishna, as I said, her love for Krishna is so strong that she had trouble holding it in.

Yesterday she said she had trouble visualizing her life without Krishna, that nothing to think about it, she was losing a part of herself. Today she cries and still says the name "Krishn", she will keep up appearances, but in her head and heart we already know who is there.

That's why I suggested that she could have said she couldn't marry anyone because she accepted Krishna as her husband and that's what's being demonstrated right now!

Originally posted by: ReadLo

Bold: Radha is supposed to be like you say the important word here is "supposed to be".

Radha may have overcome what has been shown to be "fear, attraction, anger, jealousy and ego", but she remains Radha Vrishban's daughter. You have to remember the scene after Krishna killed the last asore. She said "I am the daughter of the mukhiya Vrishban", so her identity is clearly shown, she is attached to her father. On the other hand, she tells Krishna that she loves her so much, that she can't imagine her life without him, but Krishna tells her to be strong, that she has to help her so that they can make sure they can save Vrishban... So who is Radha?

Red: For Ayan, no matter what direction his character takes as you say, we usually see that the couple becomes a real couple, but here we won't see it. They're going to let the character do penance for his bullshit, he's going to apologize to Radha, but at the time the divorce didn't exist so she's going to continue as she started, being only the daughter-in-law, but never a wife.

This truth I think we'll just have to forget it. Even this Radha gets angry with Ayan, what can she do? Go back to his parents' house?

Oh yes Krishna will be able to play the smartest and make her understand that they must forgive and move on. And I agree with you it'll be worse!

They ruined everything with this wedding thing. They shouldn't have made Krishna want things humanely, they shouldn't have made everyone know that RK loves each other. They should have left it as a mystery and left the single couple alone.

They even ruined the symbol of the "Raas", I was so angry when they showed that Krishna used it to manipulate Vrishban that I said it was over, there is no turning back.

Blue: these are my possibilities

At the end we see Krishna crying (and still crying...) and MahaDev coming, I didn't listen to what they said, because MahaDev cries too... As I had my fill, I jumped, I just heard Jatila tell Radha that now that she lives at home, she can no longer contact Krishna.

Then Radha goes to her room to cry, she says that Krishna promised her one last gift, but he has forgotten it and we see a parrot saying "Radhe Radhe".

In the precap:

Radha tells Ayan that he knows as well as she does, that it is not a marriage because there is no love.

- So here for Radha the important point in a marriage is love. This is not about duty! So his sacrifice, you'll have to explain to me what it was?!

Then she told Ayan that they are not husbands and wives, and that they will never be.

- So she makes Ayan understand that she will never consider him as her husband, and that he should not wait for this to happen one day.

It is up to the part where she warns Jatila not to do anything that will make her see her otherwise, otherwise it will not be good for her.

Jatila promises to make her pay for it.

Here it gives 2 possibilities or even 3!

The first one with Jatila, we're going to have a Saas-Bahu drama, because we know Radha, she never goes against adults, but if Jatila talks about her parents, she might really get angry. So Ayan and Jatila would have to say something about Vrishban so that she could find out the truth about them. But we know it's a vain dream, so she'll just suffer and say nothing. She will dream of the life she had with Krishna as her husband and Yashoda as her mother-in-law....

(My favorite) The second: Radha will make it clear to Ayan that he is not her husband, so not to expect anything from her, that she will do so in front of the world, but that for her, he will always remain her childhood friend. So she will be Radha Rani, the daughter-in-law of the Ugrapat family, but nothing else.

This will mean in the eyes of the CV's Radha, will be a daughter-in-law, but never a wife. It will take her time to free herself from the chains, but she will still end up joining Krishna. She's going to cut herself in half.

In the morning she is Radha the daughter-in-law

In the evening she is Radha from Krishna.

The third worst of all: Ayan who knows that Radha does not consider him as her husband will continue to plan with Kans to kill Krishna, now that Radha is far from Krishna, he thinks he can achieve his goals.... He won't say anything when Jatila is going to torture Radha, because even now he loves Radha and he has become her husband, Radha doesn't love her and he starts to hate her....

Balram will ask Krishna why he's not doing anything, after all they did it so she could have a good life.

Krishna will say that it is not yet time for him to kill Kans (even in interviews it is said that Krishna says it is time to leave, it is his human part that speaks and not Narayan...)

Well then only the demonic CV's know what they wrote, I'm only going to assume, it's going to be a mixture of the 3 ideas, so we're going to come up with a Radha who will break her chains when she has enough people trapped in duty, rules, etc.... To go join Krishna, as I said, her love for Krishna is so strong that she had trouble holding it in.

Yesterday she said she had trouble visualizing her life without Krishna, that nothing to think about it, she was losing a part of herself. Today she cries and still says the name "Krishn", she will keep up appearances, but in her head and heart we already know who is there.

That's why I suggested that she could have said she couldn't marry anyone because she accepted Krishna as her husband and that's what's being demonstrated right now!

First of all, my bad ! I didn't mean the last vikaar i.e. ego. I meant the Soham fiasco where Radha lost a mind of her own and became Krishna's yes man. She is supposed to have overcome it and found her own decision making prowess and stood her ground. The way Krishna handled those vikaars plus radha's indentity crisis post ego, he seemed like a feminist to me. But now we don't see it happening. It's like Radha again had an identity theft and this time Krishna is the manipulator. You were spot on about Radha being just junior vrishban and nothing else.

Secondly, yes it's going to be a mixture of all 3 ideas.

Possibility 1: yes. Saas-bahu going to happen. But I think they will tone it down. And won't show the usual level of DIL torment. They will induce humour again after the glycerine shower for now. And Krishna might......(might is the keyword )...... remember that he is the supreme devotional entity after getting over the whole marriage crazy teen to 'sacrificial' manipulative crybaby journey. So it might get watchable if we decide to compromise----A LOT.

Possibility 2: yes. It will happen. Word for word. And there comes the fight with society part. Actually Shree-Krishna-Kirtan by Baru Chandidas starts from this moment. There Radha was already married to Ayan ( not evil )when Krishna met him. Jatila and ayan's sister kutila were her tormentors but not murderers.

Possibility 3: I am not sure whether Ayan will hate her. Even if he does it subconsciously, his twisted brain might think it's actually his love. He thinks he tried to kill Radha because he loved her deeply. His words. Though it's just my assumption. Your hate assumption can be right as well. But yes the planning with kans part is bound to happen or Kans character would have nothing to do and that's not possible.

Yes they should have never gone public. And I don't know whether you guys talked about it during the Govardhan Leela, all of them including Radha was not even itty bit surprised after Krishna holding it in his little finger ? because Krishna brainwashed them into thinking Govardhan was the god ? They thought they were holding a mountain with sticks and without feeling an ache in hands ?Dude you people have been worshipping Narayan for years !!!!! When has he eaten Prasad himself and started floating over head ? How stoned were they ? The only people appreciating or surprised by Krishna were Jatila and Kans. 😳 In real stories everyone knew K was an incarnation. Here we didn't even see a minimal tone of surprise. No wonder K himself forgot he was divine. ( I cited this example here because Ugrapath's reaction after Govardhan looked weird to me. He didn't question for one second !? How blinded with ego can a person be to be zero percent surprised / overwhelmed by a supernatural incident of that intensity ? Even Kans would be surprised if he didn't know Krishna better. And that moment's reaction came to all this. Everything stopped making sense from that very moment.)

@red para 1 -- I am exactly in the same boat with you. Marriage is the motto for Indian shows. One of the reasons I loved RK because a Radha Krishna story wouldn't have wedding drama. I thought one of the Krishna's main teachings would be how marriage isn't the only ultimatum for love. He even said something like this during jealousy I think when Balram asked him to get married as Radha was good in cooking. And then he himself got gaga about marriage like a mere mortal.

@red para 2 -- the day they showed rass to be portrayed as Bilas in front everyone in precap, that was the last scene I saw. I haven't watched since then.

@green that was the gift !!!!??? 😳

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So yes I totally agree with you. Specially the purple para. Radha should have decided not to marry anyone and follow vrishban in banprasth and declare the whole fiasco (from promise to claim to her decision ) in front of the whole village in that square.

Atleast I expected the forest wedding under Brahma. There's even a temple in Vrindavan titled Radha Krishna's marriage place. It might still happen if they are following the order from the mythos where Radha was first ayan's wife.

Originally posted by: stormborn

First of all, my bad ! I didn't mean the last vikaar i.e. ego. I meant the Soham fiasco where Radha lost a mind of her own and became Krishna's yes man. She is supposed to have overcome it and found her own decision making prowess and stood her ground. The way Krishna handled those vikaars plus radha's indentity crisis post ego, he seemed like a feminist to me. But now we don't see it happening. It's like Radha again had an identity theft and this time Krishna is the manipulator. You were spot on about Radha being just junior vrishban and nothing else.

Secondly, yes it's going to be a mixture of all 3 ideas.

Possibility 1: yes. Saas-bahu going to happen. But I think they will tone it down. And won't show the usual level of DIL torment. They will induce humour again after the glycerine shower for now. And Krishna might......(might is the keyword )...... remember that he is the supreme devotional entity after getting over the whole marriage crazy teen to 'sacrificial' manipulative crybaby journey. So it might get watchable if we decide to compromise----A LOT.

Possibility 2: yes. It will happen. Word for word. And there comes the fight with society part. Actually Shree-Krishna-Kirtan by Baru Chandidas starts from this moment. There Radha was already married to Ayan ( not evil )when Krishna met him. Jatila and ayan's sister kutila were her tormentors but not murderers.

Possibility 3: I am not sure whether Ayan will hate her. Even if he does it subconsciously, his twisted brain might think it's actually his love. He thinks he tried to kill Radha because he loved her deeply. His words. Though it's just my assumption. Your hate assumption can be right as well. But yes the planning with kans part is bound to happen or Kans character would have nothing to do and that's not possible.

Yes they should have never gone public. And I don't know whether you guys talked about it during the Govardhan Leela, all of them including Radha was not even itty bit surprised after Krishna holding it in his little finger ? because Krishna brainwashed them into thinking Govardhan was the god ? They thought they were holding a mountain with sticks and without feeling an ache in hands ?Dude you people have been worshipping Narayan for years !!!!! When has he eaten Prasad himself and started floating over head ? How stoned were they ? The only people appreciating or surprised by Krishna were Jatila and Kans. 😳 In real stories everyone knew K was an incarnation. Here we didn't even see a minimal tone of surprise. No wonder K himself forgot he was divine. ( I cited this example here because Ugrapath's reaction after Govardhan looked weird to me. He didn't question for one second !? How blinded with ego can a person be to be zero percent surprised / overwhelmed by a supernatural incident of that intensity ? Even Kans would be surprised if he didn't know Krishna better. And that moment's reaction came to all this. Everything stopped making sense from that very moment.)

@red para 1 -- I am exactly in the same boat with you. Marriage is the motto for Indian shows. One of the reasons I loved RK because a Radha Krishna story wouldn't have wedding drama. I thought one of the Krishna's main teachings would be how marriage isn't the only ultimatum for love. He even said something like this during jealousy I think when Balram asked him to get married as Radha was good in cooking. And then he himself got gaga about marriage like a mere mortal.

@red para 2 -- the day they showed rass to be portrayed as Bilas in front everyone in precap, that was the last scene I saw. I haven't watched since then.

@green that was the gift !!!!??? 😳

🥱🤔🤪🤢

So yes I totally agree with you. Specially the purple para. Radha should have decided not to marry anyone and follow vrishban in banprasth and declare the whole fiasco (from promise to claim to her decision ) in front of the whole village in that square.

Atleast I expected the forest wedding under Brahma. There's even a temple in Vrindavan titled Radha Krishna's marriage place. It might still happen if they are following the order from the mythos where Radha was first ayan's wife.

Bold: I understood that's why I told you "who is Radha?", she has no Radha identity. She's really no one. If she were really free from vikaar, she shouldn't have been afraid for her parents, she should have faced the situation calmly and logically... So Radha is nobody, she's just a puppet.

Yes, that's why I said it might be a mixture of the 3... because it takes drama...

Possibility 1: For the moment that's what we're going to see. Jatila who will make Radha a slave. Since this is the beginning, they have to take things slow. As for Krishna, for the moment, he hasn't woken up yet, since he's talking about leaving. When he remembers who he really is, the glycerine showers will stop. And I don't think he's going to take Jatila's part if Radha's suffering. He said he did it for Radha's "happiness", so that Radha's life would be "better", as we know that nothing will be better, we will see what he will do...

Possibility 2: That's why I said my favorite. Because I don't see how they're going to get Radha to accept the situation. For the moment she is still numb from the events, when she wakes up, one would hope, that she will do something. But one thing is certain, she will never give Ayan the role of husband in her private life.

Possibility 3: Ayan does not like Radha, I have already said this several times. Ayan wants Radha like that's one thing. He got it into his head that Radha is the one he wants, and he doesn't want to go back, that would mean he ran after a mirage all his life... Because he knew Radha could have died, he supposedly cried when he said that, but he did say he had no regrets, so it's not love that Ayan feels !

I remember for Govardhan Leela, for Radha, Krishna is just a mayavi. When everyone had dropped their sticks when the rain had stopped, no one noticed that Krishna was still holding the mountain with her little finger... For what they didn't have a sore arm, it's normal, they weren't hungry either, so we can say it's not serious.

For Ugrapat that's the reason I said he's ignorant!

For Krishna's divinity, we always thought why he was hiding what he was doing. We didn't understand. Otherwise I don't think some things would have happened the way we saw them.

Kans doesn't think Krishna is divine, he too says Krishna is Mayavi. When he was talking to Devki he said "your Mayavi son"...

@red para 1 - Yes, I remember when he said that to Balram, I thought to myself that he was not going to have a marriage, but no, it had to be Krishna who came up with the same problem. We were all surprised when he said that. Until now his words are spinning in my head.

@red para 2 - Yes it's a very green and strange parrot that started saying "Radhe, Radhe", I was even surprised...lol...

You know that whole divine marriage thing, I don't even want to hear about it anymore. I'm not even sure we'll see it one day.

Because the CVs destroyed everything.

When the truth came out, that was when this divine marriage should have taken place, while RK was happy to lie and manipulate their world, so crying over rivers of glycerin, they should have made sure they connected in one way or another. Because in Radha's eyes it is only a duty and not love, it could have made sense of their so-called sacrifice!

Yes, Radha should have faced everyone: Ugrapat, Vrishban, Jatila and Ayan.

She should have made sure to talk to them, as she could have done, to do a face-to-face meeting to ask them to forget what happened before the wedding.

But what's the point of talking about it? If Radha doesn't do anything, she does 1% of things!

Very intense and interesting discussion going on here 👏. Such brainstorming discussions will stimulate our thoughts and expressions.

Just to remind one thing, it is my observation -- After listening to Jatila's crap , Radha with an assertive and angry face entered into the house and Jatila closed the doors in a symbolic way!

But I think, from now on Radha will gain a grip on the story movement, she will put Ayan in his place --- let him sit in a corner watching Radha sleeping peacefully like a servant, no authority as her husband!🤣And late she will show Jatila her place and will try to induce some sense into that Ugra's head to realize the facts in future!!

Appreciate these discussions Cynthia and stormborn.❤️

Originally posted by: ReadLo

Bold: I understood that's why I told you "who is Radha?", she has no Radha identity. She's really no one. If she were really free from vikaar, she shouldn't have been afraid for her parents, she should have faced the situation calmly and logically... So Radha is nobody, she's just a puppet.

Yes, that's why I said it might be a mixture of the 3... because it takes drama...

Possibility 1: For the moment that's what we're going to see. Jatila who will make Radha a slave. Since this is the beginning, they have to take things slow. As for Krishna, for the moment, he hasn't woken up yet, since he's talking about leaving. When he remembers who he really is, the glycerine showers will stop. And I don't think he's going to take Jatila's part if Radha's suffering. He said he did it for Radha's "happiness", so that Radha's life would be "better", as we know that nothing will be better, we will see what he will do...

Possibility 2: That's why I said my favorite. Because I don't see how they're going to get Radha to accept the situation. For the moment she is still numb from the events, when she wakes up, one would hope, that she will do something. But one thing is certain, she will never give Ayan the role of husband in her private life.

Possibility 3: Ayan does not like Radha, I have already said this several times. Ayan wants Radha like that's one thing. He got it into his head that Radha is the one he wants, and he doesn't want to go back, that would mean he ran after a mirage all his life... Because he knew Radha could have died, he supposedly cried when he said that, but he did say he had no regrets, so it's not love that Ayan feels !

I remember for Govardhan Leela, for Radha, Krishna is just a mayavi. When everyone had dropped their sticks when the rain had stopped, no one noticed that Krishna was still holding the mountain with her little finger... For what they didn't have a sore arm, it's normal, they weren't hungry either, so we can say it's not serious.

For Ugrapat that's the reason I said he's ignorant!

For Krishna's divinity, we always thought why he was hiding what he was doing. We didn't understand. Otherwise I don't think some things would have happened the way we saw them.

Kans doesn't think Krishna is divine, he too says Krishna is Mayavi. When he was talking to Devki he said "your Mayavi son"...

@red para 1 - Yes, I remember when he said that to Balram, I thought to myself that he was not going to have a marriage, but no, it had to be Krishna who came up with the same problem. We were all surprised when he said that. Until now his words are spinning in my head.

@red para 2 - Yes it's a very green and strange parrot that started saying "Radhe, Radhe", I was even surprised...lol...

You know that whole divine marriage thing, I don't even want to hear about it anymore. I'm not even sure we'll see it one day.

Because the CVs destroyed everything.

When the truth came out, that was when this divine marriage should have taken place, while RK was happy to lie and manipulate their world, so crying over rivers of glycerin, they should have made sure they connected in one way or another. Because in Radha's eyes it is only a duty and not love, it could have made sense of their so-called sacrifice!

Yes, Radha should have faced everyone: Ugrapat, Vrishban, Jatila and Ayan.

She should have made sure to talk to them, as she could have done, to do a face-to-face meeting to ask them to forget what happened before the wedding.

But what's the point of talking about it? If Radha doesn't do anything, she does 1% of things!

I gonna jump in here the post will be all over the place so just bare with it 😆

@bold Your possibility 2 is coming true but I feel CVs will mix something with it.

Also it seems almost everyone knows the truth of RadhaKrishna’s sacrifice except for Vrishban and maybe Ugrapat(not sure if he knows or not)

I genuinely feel bad with all the crying hate to see it happening this way. If they show Radha Krishn meeting it’s fine but no more tears. Makes me sad too. All the shows I watch are not great right now. Maybe I am just a jinx for them all but idk I would like something other than crying. Crying for a bit more is fine but if there is going to be continuous crying till the show ends that is something I do not want

Also about the parrot I was fast forwarding and landed on the strangest voice ever I froze for a second thinking what heck was that. Idk something about the animation of the parrot was off maybe it’s beak was too big but it was not awful looking. So I guess good job CVs

Originally posted by: Janu808

I gonna jump in here the post will be all over the place so just bare with it 😆

@bold Your possibility 2 is coming true but I feel CVs will mix something with it.

Also it seems almost everyone knows the truth of RadhaKrishna’s sacrifice except for Vrishban and maybe Ugrapat(not sure if he knows or not)

I genuinely feel bad with all the crying hate to see it happening this way. If they show Radha Krishn meeting it’s fine but no more tears. Makes me sad too. All the shows I watch are not great right now. Maybe I am just a jinx for them all but idk I would like something other than crying. Crying for a bit more is fine but if there is going to be continuous crying till the show ends that is something I do not want

Also about the parrot I was fast forwarding and landed on the strangest voice ever I froze for a second thinking what heck was that. Idk something about the animation of the parrot was off maybe it’s beak was too big but it was not awful looking. So I guess good job CVs

Blue: I was also shocked when I saw the parrot. It is not well done. 🤢😵

Vrishban will eventually know the truth, but I think it's normal for Krishna's family to know this truth, it wouldn't make sense for everyone to burden her with it.

No, Ugrapat doesn't know that! I really want him to open his eyes because I want to kill him!

For possibility 2: For Ayan and Radha's relationship, I don't think he'll have anything else. I just saw their passage, Radha shows no sign that she's going to let Ayan order it one way or another.

She tells Ayan it's "moh" and not "prem"

Ayan asked her well how long it lasts, she said until love will come between them.

Ayan told her that this will happen when she stops loving Krishna.

We all know that this is never going to happen, so we might as well forget about the husband and wife thing. And then the audience won't accept it, it's going to be even worse than everything else if they show it!

She will just maintain the image in front of the company, but in private, she will remain RadhaKrishn.

The tears will continue until they decide to face things, I'm just tired of seeing them cry for me. This is unbearable!

Originally posted by: Viswasruti

Very intense and interesting discussion going on here 👏. Such brainstorming discussions will stimulate our thoughts and expressions.

Just to remind one thing, it is my observation -- After listening to Jatila's crap , Radha with an assertive and angry face entered into the house and Jatila closed the doors in a symbolic way!

But I think, from now on Radha will gain a grip on the story movement, she will put Ayan in his place --- let him sit in a corner watching Radha sleeping peacefully like a servant, no authority as her husband!🤣And late she will show Jatila her place and will try to induce some sense into that Ugra's head to realize the facts in future!!

Appreciate these discussions Cynthia and stormborn.❤️

It's a pleasure to entertain you, Madhu. 🤗

Red: Jatila will show Radha her true face.

Radha will support it for now. She warned Jatila, so one day we'll see if Radha can calm Jatila down!

For Ayan, he's going to suffer, he's right! Even if he has the role of "husband" in front of society, which is already a great thing. He'll never be in private, and that's what's very important! He wanted something that doesn't belong to him, so he has to pay the price now! He must feel what it feels like to have something without having it!

For Ugrapat, I think he must be the one who learns the truth first, he must die of regret, I must see him regret what he did!