Good guy making mistakes versus redeeming a bad guy - Page 19

Okay, just saw this now - first of all I wanna give you a big tight virtual hug UKG for always putting across your opinions no matter what 🤗 I haven’t read the replies on this thread - because neither I have the time nor I’ve the energy to put up with that much mind boggling stuff! Also, I know reading all the opinions would blur the original opinion I have on this subject matter and I would go off-kilter 😆 so yeah.

I agree with you this is a different season and I would appreciate if people just don’t mix up two things and see this one from a different perspective because that one was different with different set of audiences - also, that season is done and dusted along with the so-called proclaimed, claimed and acclaimed epic-ness! This one has been a different thing altogether and we should actually hope it to be different then that one! I mean, how on earth anyone can appreciate someone taking someone’s wife? I mean, people do have issues in their marriages and relationships and if people consider those mistakes grave, oh-the-unredeemable ones, then I think snatching someone’s wife and killing people around is all cool, cool stuff 😎 wouldn’t that be a hindrance in that oh-the-redeeming process? Oh, that’s totally fine morally and ethically? Obviously! 😬 🧐

To err is human but sadly we forget that when it comes to the characters like Anurag - we human beings are so blatantly blind to the fact that how low we can go despite being the oh-so-looked down-upon “two goody shoes” and it is something which is pretty normal because oh, bad is hot! To start with, we all human beings aren’t inherently evil but it’s always the circumstances, nurturing, evilness of the world and surroundings that make people do the wrong stuff - so if a 44 years old guy can get a redemption after doing wrong stuff then a 24 years old guy who is just making the humanly humane mistakes is unredeemable because there shouldn’t be a balance - oh, the chemical imbalance is the balance we prefer and root for in TV world!

Obviously,The bad guy must have had a process and growth to reach that point where he turns bad/grey/evil - not like he was born evil or he turned one overnight?! and the redeeming process would be the part of the process, even he must have been the not-so-likeable two goody shoes at some point so if the redeeming process is something which he deserves then a 24 years old good guy making mistakes in the process of loving and trying to live is oh sooo bad, uh!

Bad is the new good. Manhandling is the OH-SO-HOT Romance. Woohoo cheers 😉❤️

23 pages of discussion and except for a few sniggers we have managed to stay on point and be respectful to each other and have a good discussion! Woohoooo!!!

The whole point of the thread was to make people question why they were so willing to jump on the bajaj train rather than hope for the growth of love between anupre. Is anurag a terrible human beyond redemption? What makes bajaj so exciting or interesting? Does it all amount to the same thing - whether it is a supposed good boy or a bad boy - a woman’s story is always linked to her love for, her forgiveness of or her redemption of a man?

We are all products of our age, education, socio-economic baxkground and life experiences and our views are all valid as long as we don’t lose sight of the fact that it’s all fiction. The analysis and over analaysia is fun until we start thinking that our view is the only possible right view.

Originally posted by: manzilmukul

Different people have opinions and that's why they are called opinions and not facts. The truth is that love from a psychological perspective can have many forms. According to Sternberg's triangular theory of love, it can have many forms. If Anurag-Prerna are soulmates, then Bajaj and Prerna could be 'Anam Cara' which is a Celtic version of 'Soul Friends'. What is love anyway- a teardrop from the mother's eyes when she sees her child, a smile of warmth when we choose to feed someone who is hungry.. likewise, there could be many forms.

Aristotle had once said, "Friendship is an art of holding up a mirror to each other's soul."

The soul yearns for companionship which is beyond the realms of need and greed, which transcends 'give and take', which touches it with divine light.

Soul friends are like mirrors- You can see an accurate reflection and reflect on them as well.

An 'Anam Cara' strips off masques and pretentions, sees your soul naked with all your bare emotions, establishes a sense of ease and basks you in the glory of joyous love. Such friendships are beyond space and time, gender and class. They are not mapped into charts of relationships, cerebral nor intellectual. Such love is neither physical nor emotional.

The Anam Cara holds you when you are weak, wraps you in a comfort blanket when you are cold with grief, wipes your tears in dark and dreary nights, stands for the truth- absolute or relative, makes you accept your follies and liberates you from prejudices.

In this fast-paced world, where friendships are based on 'Weekend Booze and rest of the time Snooze' culture, finding an 'Anam Cara' is like an oasis in the desert!

Like the first drops of rain on parched earth! Like the twinkle in the mother's eyes when she suckles her infant!

Like the grin of a child saving his favourite candy by stuffing it in his pockets- innocent and rare!

When you find your 'Anam Cara or your True Soul friend', hold them close to your mind and heart- keep them with all your might as such friendships are like a lifelong journey of bliss basking your soul in its splendid light of love, companionship and joy! I strongly believe Bajaj would be that to Prerna and Prerna to Bajaj.

@Bold He is indeed needed. What is otherwise a story? Leads falling in love and then what?

I like your explanation of love but totally disagree with your concluding sentence. You have jumped from your explanation of love to a statement that prerna can be that for bajaj and vice versa.without any supporting arguement

On what basis?

Ok things that happened in season 1? And what is missing from the true love she found in anurag? Is love not something that grow, changes, forgives, fives and demands compromise. Love is not just the chance and the act of falling into love. It’s the act of preserving love.

Unless anurag does something big to her why should she give up on her love?

Or is this just about watching a new love story and not caring about the old one?

@original topic:

Rightly said, everyone is flawed. And so it all depends from a person's pov how he/she sees the other person.

Basically it is one's own experiences and circumstances that in the long run build feelings for a particular person which are either bad or good.

In our lives also, it's the same. I may not like a person due to various reasons but he will be the world to his wife. Bcoz he will be a different person to me and a different person to his wife. Or maybe bcoz the same habit might be detested by me whereas loved by his wife.

For this season I can't comment much as I haven't seen completely, but surely in S1 it was shown that Prerna as a person initially loved AB genuinely but due to circumstances and disappointments, and AB's own behaviour, her feelings started to change. And once she saw the goodness in RB, she didn't look back at AB. There were many instances when she could have gone back to AB, but every time she chose RB. Her pov had changed wrt AB and RB both.

She weighed the pros and cons in both men and chose RB.

Also very important thing to keep in mind was that RB's character changed drastically in the process and became better than AB in every way. Whereas AB's character was shown weaker with passing time. So, no wonder Prerna chose the better of the two men.

And yeah, if mistakes by the good guy are so significant that it overshadows all the goodness; whereas the villainero redeems himself to a level next to worshipping, can't blame the girl.

Let's see how the story plays out this time.

Originally posted by: UKGirl22

I like your explanation of love but totally disagree with your concluding sentence. You have jumped from your explanation of love to a statement that prerna can be that for bajaj and vice versa.without any supporting arguement

On what basis?

Ok things that happened in season 1? And what is missing from the true love she found in anurag? Is love not something that grow, changes, forgives, fives and demands compromise. Love is not just the chance and the act of falling into love. It’s the act of preserving love.

Unless anurag does something big to her why should she give up on her love?

Or is this just about watching a new love story and not caring about the old one?

That how stories progress, u can't just show Anu pre love story alone, the bajaj pre dynamics will add a lot to the show.

Noone here was talking with respect to what happend in season 1,everyones poi t was how can love be multifaceted, how it can various forms, meanings and interpretations, if AnuPre can have one interpretation, bajaj pre can also have, it need not be the same. Let he makers give us a deep, layered story.

Noone is jumping on the bajaj train, there are various reasons that bajja is being welcomed, makers have managed to intrigue the audince with the first few scenes of bajaj, the writing pre in this season is so unudimensional or non existent that they would wanna see more layers added to her which they hope they will see with Bajaj s entry, bajaj will bring the muhc needed maturity to Anupre love story, what's a deep love story that doesn't face some tribulations and bajaj will break the monotonous nature of the show currently. Again, Noone wants pre to thwart Anu and accept bajaj, everyone sees bajaj and Anu as humans and is willing to give both a chance, Anurag is alps given the chance, but as far as people can see makers don't want show him human, they wanna show him as a saint, as a mahatma, it will rubboff people the wrong way.

Originally posted by: UKGirl22

23 pages of discussion and except for a few sniggers we have managed to stay on point and be respectful to each other and have a good discussion! Woohoooo!!!

The whole point of the thread was to make people question why they were so willing to jump on the bajaj train rather than hope for the growth of love between anupre. Is anurag a terrible human beyond redemption? What makes bajaj so exciting or interesting? Does it all amount to the same thing - whether it is a supposed good boy or a bad boy - a woman’s story is always linked to her love for, her forgiveness of or her redemption of a man?

We are all products of our age, education, socio-economic baxkground and life experiences and our views are all valid as long as we don’t lose sight of the fact that it’s all fiction. The analysis and over analaysia is fun until we start thinking that our view is the only possible right view.

Originally posted by: Bookworm_

To err is human but sadly we forget that when it comes to the characters like Anurag - we human beings are so blatantly blind to the fact that how low we can go despite being the oh-so-looked down-upon “two goody shoes” and it is something which is pretty normal because oh, bad is hot! To start with, we all human beings aren’t inherently evil but it’s always the circumstances, nurturing, evilness of the world and surroundings that make people do the wrong stuff - so if a 44 years old guy can get a redemption after doing wrong stuff then a 24 years old guy who is just making the humanly humane mistakes is unredeemable because there shouldn’t be a balance - oh, the chemical imbalance is the balance we prefer and root for in TV world!

Obviously,The bad guy must have had a process and growth to reach that point where he turns bad/grey/evil - not like he was born evil or he turned one overnight?! and the redeeming process would be the part of the process, even he must have been the not-so-likeable two goody shoes at some point so if the redeeming process is something which he deserves then a 24 years old good guy making mistakes in the process of loving and trying to live is oh sooo bad, uh!

Bad is the new good. Manhandling is the OH-SO-HOT Romance. Woohoo cheers 😉❤️

I'll make it clear. The good guy even if he murders someone will remain good. Bec wr will find some justification towards it , the intention, the circumstances etc . The law also looks at it that way . So ..when i joined th4 forum anurag was bashed right left and center for humiliating prerna and putting her through all this shit , doing pyar ka natak with komo ..it was said that he will have to make up for it , go on his knees and apologize and whatever..but it never happened and now you call his mistake a "humanly human" mistake.

The bad guy even if he does something good will remain a bad guy bec thats our perspective of looking at it. We have categorized him as "bad" bec of his past mistakes , he is termed irredemable. Or there are assumptions in ur dictionary he is ravan so he will take away somebodys wife. Ok. He will also commit mistakes and when he is redeemed , we can call his mistake a humanly human mistake . Why shouldnt he get leeway like anurag ?

Lets not bring in the hotness factor . For me , parth is anyday better . But acc to u bajaj has already manhandled prerna. What can i say?

Weighing the mistakes of each character is useless bec in the end , if prerna loves anurag , irrespective of his mistakes or whatever , thats it . And if prerna will love bajaj or respect him or befriend him, thats that ,its her choice ..n thats what matters.

Ppl r not good or bad. They r somewhere in between . But there is some ppl who accept that they r ruthless , money minded , have a grey streak like Bajaj. And there will be some who will pretend to be some goody goody and do shit things. Those ppl r called hypocrites. And for me I can never stand hypocrites. Bajaj in last season and till now is many things (good and bad) but not a hypocrite .

And sadly at least for me Anurag has shown hypocritical behaviour quite a few times now.

And his majbooris were nonsense atleast to me.

Originally posted by: intruderfast

Ppl r not good or bad. They r somewhere in between . But there is some ppl who accept that they r ruthless , money minded , have a grey streak like Bajaj. And there will be some who will pretend to be some goody goody and do shit things. Those ppl r called hypocrites. And for me I can never stand hypocrites. Bajaj in last season and till now is many things (good and bad) but not a hypocrite .

And sadly at least for me Anurag has shown hypocritical behaviour quite a few times now.

And his majbooris were nonsense atleast to me.

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I think people prefer characters that are upfront bad rather than fake people like mr Basu who act all nice but are actually pretty selfish.