Staying Alive is not enough Grief

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Posted: 6 years ago
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  • "Grief is not a disorder, a disease or a sign of weakness. It is an emotional, physical and spiritual necessity, the price you pay for love. The only cure for grief is to grieve."
    Earl Grollman

How ironical it is that someone who would have died without Happy isn’t grieving at all. This is probably not the Rocky I knew. A completely lacklustre portrayal of Rocky’s misery. The way his character was written was with a lot of passion. His grief, even during the days of Shaan had an intensity which could shatter my heart. This, on the contrary was dull. I have been missing in action since the marriage fiasco because Rocky wasn’t the same with whom I had fell in love with as a character. The pain was not enough! The angst wasn’t enough! The anger just wasn’t enough!

Rocky looks drained and tired contrary to the fact that he is grieving. His character has been through a lot but what remained persistent were his heightened emotions. Now all I can see in his face is vacant resignation!

Probably, this is not the same show. I have lost interest as I cannot foresee how all this is justified? It’s totally against the character that was written.

Am I the only one?

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Bud!! This!

I was afraid of what I saw would make me cringe so I assumed that Rocky did feel bad as in intense way. Indeed the intensity was missing. The grief wasn’t enough and I don’t know why 😭 Though at the beginning I felt for him when he became numb and immovable, but then when he got into her room looking at her pic, the soul talk, him grabbing her outfit from the closet didn’t really click well like it would have been. I felt more pain with him when Happy decided to marry RV. The mirror breaking, falling on the floor even laying with Happy’s pictures blowing on top of him made an impact, but today it didn’t for some strange reason. And I was trying to question myself whether is it just me not being able to see the scene properly because of the upcoming track or the scene naturally didn’t lift up! *sigh*😒


Post leap, I am hoping to see a more depressing Rocky.. silent types, keeping things to himself but extremely focused on his work only? Don’t know what makes sense now. :/

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Posted: 6 years ago
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@manzilmukul:

First of all hats off to you for writing such a wonderful piece!!! short and to the point!!!

Rocky has been through a lot, the pain was even beyond him and the torture both physical and emotional when he was in prison and after that too when he got back!!! I think he's getting immune to agony and all kinds of pain that he doesn't even feel anything, I am saying this, because this not from rocky's or the maker's POV, but a personal life experience, I lost someone too last year, and sometimes pain is so much that tears never stop and sometimes the tears don't fall from your eyes, but doesn't mean you don't feel or grieve for the one you lost, someone that was part of you and so close to your heart, the thing is sometimes that pain and the one you lost becomes one and the same thing, you feel they are still with you and yet so far, sometimes you let the tears fall and sometimes you don't feel anything.That's what we call human nature.

Ok, that was my general POV nothing to do with Rocky or what he does after leap, and about what you said maybe you are right, shaan has more intensity then rocky which reminds me I will watch shaan scenes again.

AB is a very wonderful actor but seems like makers were so focused on shaadi and wanted to close RV's chapter soonish and for which they fixed all their focus on RV's character leaving major loopholes in the story.

For. e.g when happy was afraid like hell, Rocky just asked himself happy itni dari hui kuyn hai?? alll that time rocky was thinking sanya is behind everything and she's now in asylum why he didn't think for a second after kulwant getting shot that if sanya is in asylum who else can behind this? he was targeted but kulwant was shot, happy's fear and anaya's death, why he didn't connect the dots??? Rocky kept on saying RV yeh hai RV woh hai but actually he was never showed thinking about all this, he should have teamed up with happy and Grover to find proofs against RV, Rocky knew in his heart that all this has to do with RV but he didn't do anything, and he accepted that too to RV today"Agar meney tuje pehle hi teri auqaat yaad dila di hoti toh aaj happy zinda hoti" well done cvs by making rocky saying this to RV, you have accepted the flaws in this foolish plan of happy's!!!

Sorry this wasn't related to your post but got carried away!!!

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Or should I assume the reason why Rocky couldn’t grief is maybe because somewhere in his heart he believes Happy is still alive? Like maybe that’s why later on Happy’s death was not effective enough ? 😆

I was expecting a dialogue where Rocky would say “if I am still alive, that means Happy is Alive too” 🤔

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Posted: 6 years ago
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"His character has been through a lot but what remained persistent was his heightened emotions. Now all I can see in his face is vacant resignation!"

This. Cannot agree more!! This aches my heart Piu! In one of my posts I said Rocky was everything but helpless. Watching him helpless like that kills me. And now this marriage nonsense is too much. I am assuming Rocky might have agreed for marriage for the kid. The girl might be pregnant, revealed it to Rocky. Since childhood Rocky has suffered a lot for being an illegitimate child. Going by his nature he must have connected and given his nod to marriage only to save the child from societal bullies. However this is my assumption derived from the character Rocky I know.

If CVs adopt a different mean to show him marrying just like that would be the last nail to this show. Rocky is the most unique male lead in recent times. Mostly fans watch the show for him and him only. His character development and shaping it have been the best thing in the show. Butchering it would butcher the last resort they have now. If Rocky's character changes, fans won't hold on to anything.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Manoshono

Or should I assume the reason why Rocky couldn’t grief is maybe because somewhere in his heart he believes Happy is still alive? Like maybe that’s why later on Happy’s death was not effective enough ? 😆

I was expecting a dialogue where Rocky would say “if I am still alive, that means Happy is Alive too” 🤔

Why can't they just make Rocky go back to his old spoilt self? Wouldn't that have made sense more than this? He transformed kyukii Happy put sense in to him. Now the person who inspired him to be better, the love of his life, his soulmate is dead. He has no reason left to be sober. Why didn't makers show him being that badass, damn care guy again? Bad or good, Rocky has always been extreme with his emotions. It really appears that he resigned.

I agree to Perfect Start. When people suffer too much, they tend to get immune to pain. Having said that, Rocky lost Happy. His love, his reason for living, his inspiration, his soulmate. So he agreeing to move on with his life is illogical. It simply doesn't go with the Rocky we know.

I am hoping CVs to come up with a better reason behind the marriage. Kuch bhi kare, par Rocky ka character barbaad na kare. I watch the show only for him.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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His going back to being spoilt will not look appropriate. He changed because of Chintu's death and realisation of responsibilities. He changed because Chintu in all his life wanted him to. He changed because of that last video in which Chintu expressed all he expected out of his brother. He changed to make his brother proud. He changed to prove that his brother had just the right expectations and belief in him and whatever Chintu thought of his calibre was all correct.

He got connected to Happy afterwards is a different matter for me.

He lost the love of his life and this should actually make him numb and lifeless but he should be shown continuing with his responsibilities while remaining just physically involved and emotionally withdrawn. That would make sense according to me.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Damn I agree! I don’t want to lose Rocky at any freaking cost! Don’t they dare destroy him 😭


Creatives please, make better adjustments as to why you brought marriage in? There has to be a solid reason .

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Originally posted by: Golu14

His going back to being spoilt will not look appropriate. He changed because of Chintu's death and realisation of responsibilities. He changed because Chintu in all his life wanted him to. He changed because of that last video in which Chintu expressed all he expected out of his brother. He changed to make his brother proud. He changed to prove that his brother had just the right expectations and belief in him and whatever Chintu thought of his calibre was all correct.

He got connected to Happy afterwards is a different matter for me.

He lost the love of his life and this should actually make him numb and lifeless but he should be shown continuing with his responsibilities while remaining just physically involved and emotionally withdrawn. That would make sense according to me.

Agree! I was discussing this on another group and I stated the same thing as to how I want to see Rocky now.. not exactly being the old self but being completely numb, be more focused on responsibilities and more like silent types. Not interacting with the rest, immersed in Happy ke thoughts when being alone.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Folks, I loved reading all your takes. Due to the shortage of time, I’d quickly reply to all in brief pointers-

Please bear with me

@Anum- I hear you bud! Something amiss about this whole thing. Grieving and disbelief was on point but after that downhill again. I so wish, he had punched RV in the jail too! The Rocky I knew believed in punching even if someone tried to touch Smiley! This was Happy and his murderer! Something is missing totally!

@perfectstart I so relate to the catharsis and grief bit. I have personally grieved someone dear and I do understand that resignation and dry teardrops. But somehow, Rocky’s response to her death doesn’t match! Also, you raised some very valid points too. Poor writing, I must say.

@Mihrimah- I had so envisioned a Shiva turning into Rudra mode after the only love of his life Sati was burnt into flames. Drawing out a mythological reference. He was mad with rage and followed penance despite the responsibilities of the world on his shoulders. That’s the vision I had for Rocky. Happy was his driving force. I am mighty disappointed.

@Golu- I agree his metamorphosis happened after Chintu’s death but his life and sanity always revolves around Happy. This entire sequence of getting married for whatsoever reason doesn’t make sense to me at all.

Edited by manzilmukul - 6 years ago

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