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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sabhayata

Finally some one speaking neutrally and not just as a shipper. I mean of course he will be relieved to know his ex fiancée and best friend are not dating. I mean any one in the real world would be. He just lost his financee whom he loved if he would have come to know that she is dating his best friend he would have lost his best friend as well. No friendships remain the same in such cases. Hence he was relieved. I just don’t see what is the issue in that.

Lol, it's true that I may not relate with Veer or feel as bad as I did with Mauli coz of Rohan Gandotra. But can't deny the fact that, he is the victim here and he's been hurt by his near and dear ones whom he trusted the most, without any bigger fault of his.. Yes he may have teeny weeny issues, but he isn't a bad guy at all.

He did love Mishti and trusted Ruhaan, and when he comes to know that they are dating, it's gonna hurt him like hell obviously. If we put ourselves in Veer's shoes any person in his state would feel that way...

So it was understandable that he felt happy and relieved as he came to know it wasn't his friend Ruhaan, his happiness very much justified, imo...

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sudharies

Lol, it's true that I may not relate with Veer or feel as bad as I did with Mauli coz of Rohan Gandotra. But can't deny the fact that, he is the victim here and he's been hurt by his near and dear ones whom he trusted the most, without any bigger fault of his.. Yes he may have teeny weeny issues, but he isn't a bad guy at all.

He did love Mishti and trusted Ruhaan, and when he comes to know that they are dating, it's gonna hurt him like hell obviously. If we put ourselves in Veer's shoes any person in his state would feel that way...

So it was understandable that he felt happy and relieved as he came to know it wasn't his friend Ruhaan, his happiness very much justified, imo...

But his actions are not projecting to viewers any sympathy towards him.For e.g when Arnav disclosed Pari is dating Ruhaan he immediately stood up & bec happy ignoring how Arnav might have felt as he was also rejected and his attitude & arrogance not making any good.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: NamrataRa

But his actions are not projecting to viewers any sympathy towards him.For e.g when Arnav disclosed Pari is dating Ruhaan he immediately stood up & bec happy ignoring how Arnav might have felt as he was also rejected and his attitude & arrogance not making any good.

That's why I said he does have flaws, but I find them smaller. Yes he ignored Arnav's pain here and concerntrated on more being happy that it's not Ruhaan. Coz he's not emotionally connected or related in anyways to Arnav, but he's friends with Ruhaan.. Not everyone can feel the same way they do for their close ones or themselves na. So it wasn't worth that bothering for him.. and this smaller issues aren't enough to not empathise with his state when he actually deserves it.....

Btw aren't we doing the same to him? Ignoring his reasonable pain just coz someone else is more dearer to us?

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sabhayata

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Hi Mili see I don’t even watch this serial so I really don’t care about Veer’s good or bad points . I mean I am only reading and take things from character perspective. It just breaks my heart that a character who is going through a heartbreak is being judged so harshly. And I am scratching my head to understand that when so much time was given to Mishti to understand what’s going through her heart why can’t the same senstivity be applied to a character who is going through a heart break. Veer as a character is not hurting any one. However he is handling his heartbreak he is doing it to himself. He is not bothering or hurting Mishaan. In fact Mishaan are happy right now. They are enjoying their new relationship. I don’t blame them , they stay in the same house they can’t avoid each other it’s ok. But that doesn’t make Veer wrong . For Veer he loved Mishti and as per him Mishti loved him as Mishti confessed the same several times. Then we’re in a relationship for 1 years.Which was majorly a good relationship. All of it just ended one the day with Mishti saying she never loved him.Its not easy. So many memories, hopes and dreams dashed in one day. So I understand what he is going through. Hence I don’t understand harsh judgements like ego got hurt etc. Can’t we be neutral enough to say Mishaan are right in their own place and Veer in his?Why does one has to be right and another wrong. Veer is not hurting any one or Mishaan. Mishaan are happy in their new found love. I think Veer should be allowed to handle his heartbreak without harsh judgments. I don’t know I always have a thing for the broken hearted or unloved ones. I don’t understand harsh judgments when they are going though one of the worst phase of their life.

Sabhayata, respect your point of view. We won't be able to change each other's opinions😃 But just for the sake of clarification. I see what you are saying, my friend, but still don't get a change of heart from my end😲 ! Here is why:

Here, if we are reading a book, we have the liberty to imagine the character in any which way we want. It is all in my head. But , unfortunately, the character comes with a living, breathing, enacting person. So, we look at that character in the context of that person. Unfortunately, all the information coming from the eyes, ears and special senses cannot be ignored, right?

To me, from the get go, this character/ actor portrayed Veer as a super-egoistic, superficial, full of himself guy. I scoffed at him equally whether he proudly, smugly handed out the ring of Mishti's choice behind his mother's back or had her put her hands out and placed his precious car keys😡with aplomb. Because, when you look at him, there is absolutely no humility in his actions. He probes Ruhaan about his " love" in one scene, and then without getting into any sort of depth, goes on to tell him about how great his own life is. The scene screams at you as if he is simply trying to create a platform for himself to gloat. And don't even remind me of the birthday scenario, how he attempted the one upmanship over Mishti. He didn't NOT EVEN FOR A SECOND give off vibes that he is looking out for his friend or his honor, from the beginning it was about how Mishti disobeyed him and that was a BLUNDER, enough to be punished with silent treatment😡It was all about him.

Of course, now his chanting of MBA from IIM, VP of a company. I would have understood as if he is taking stock of his situation if I am seeing him in vaccum. But, no, I have all this past baggage and I see him saying this, I hit the roof😡He goaded Arnav to come with him, Arnav just told him how the love of his life doesn't care about him. Not even for a second, he is thinking about the person in front of him, it was all about him. I find this guy to be annoying as hell! All I see is that he will die of a ego stroke if and when he finds out that indeed Mishti chose Ruhaan over him, because he will never understand what it is that is lacking in him, humility and sensitivity. He is only sensitive about himself😡

Today's episode toh, at peaks with " yeah, lots of girls may know me, BUT, I don't want any of them" 🤣Again, as a stand alone statement, there is nothing bad, but in the context of Veer guy, it just kicks up to a different level. My Goodness, I can't even take this guy seriously anymore. I am not sure if the directors wanted this character to shape up as such or as somebody put it before if he is adding his own " charm" to it. 🤔

Have a great day, my friend !!!

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sudharies

That's why I said he does have flaws, but I find them smaller. Yes he ignored Arnav's pain here and concerntrated on more being happy that it's not Ruhaan. Coz he's not emotionally connected or related in anyways to Arnav, but he's friends with Ruhaan.. Not everyone can feel the same way they do for their close ones or themselves na. So it wasn't worth that bothering for him.. and this smaller issues aren't enough to not empathise with his state when he actually deserves it.....

Btw aren't we doing the same to him? Ignoring his reasonable pain just coz someone else is more dearer to us?

The fault totally lies with the actor.Even Arnav in place of him would have got more sympathy from us.In S1 cvs took popular actor as 3rd angle & thought they can get away by showing anything but you know what happened.In short it doesn't matter how much you are handsome or beautiful if your acting skills are poor then you will not be able to create spark with viewers .

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: NamrataRa

The fault totally lies with the actor.Even Arnav in place of him would have got more sympathy from us.In S1 cvs took popular actor as 3rd angle & thought they can get away by showing anything but you know what happened.In short it doesn't matter how much you are handsome or beautiful if your acting skills are poor then you will not be able to create spark with viewers .

I agree with the acting part completely. Rohan is so average and he can't portray the emotions well enough , that we could relate to Veer's pain.

But as I've said before, if we imagine a better actor, some Fav of yours, you will feel horrible for him . So the problem lies with the actor, I agree.

But my point is, even if the actor is incompetent, even if we can't relate to Veer's pain through Rohan's acting, as a character he does deserve sympathy, as he's not a bad guy and he doesn't deserve the heartbreak that has happened to him....

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: NamrataRa

But his actions are not projecting to viewers any sympathy towards him.For e.g when Arnav disclosed Pari is dating Ruhaan he immediately stood up & bec happy ignoring how Arnav might have felt as he was also rejected and his attitude & arrogance not making any good.

Yaar really tell me one thing , in real life if some one’s 1 year relationship has just been broken and their engagement has been called off recently would you really expect that person to think of any one else’s pain other than their own?Again let me say Arnav and Veer’s situation is very different. As different as sun and moon, Ice and fire 😆. Arnav was never in a relationship with Pari. Pari was always clear she never loved Arnav. Arnav and Pari weren’t about to get married. Veer and Mishti were in a emotional , loving and physical relationship for a year. They were about to be married. Veer’s pain and suffering is way more than Arnav . In real life would we really expect some one going through what Veer is going through to think about other’s pain when they themselves are going through so much. At least I wouldn’t expect any one in real life to think about other’s pain when they are going through some thing greater. I mean I don’t know either people in this forum are really evolved as human beings or there is something wrong with me. But for me any decent and good human being when going through a lot of pain themselves will not think of other’s pain . At least not at that time.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Sorry to say stalking your ex & blowing his own trumpet etc will not get sympathy atleast from me.If after break up he confronted Misti & demanded reasons then scenario could have been different.He is behaving like illiterate man who is hurt bec of rejection.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: Sabhayata

Yaar really tell me one thing , in real life if some one’s 1 year relationship has just been broken and their engagement has been called off recently would you really expect that person to think of any one else’s pain other than their own?Again let me say Arnav and Veer’s situation is very different. As different as sun and moon, Ice and fire smiley36. Arnav was never in a relationship with Pari. Pari was always clear she never loved Arnav. Arnav and Pari weren’t about to get married. Veer and Mishti were in a emotional , loving and physical relationship for a year. They were about to be married. Veer’s pain and suffering is way more than Arnav . In real life would we really expect some one going through what Veer is going through to think about other’s pain when they themselves are going through so much. At least I wouldn’t expect any one in real life to think about other’s pain when they are going through some thing greater. I mean I don’t know either people in this forum are really evolved as human beings or there is something wrong with me. But for me any decent and good human being when going through a lot of pain themselves will not think of other’s pain . At least not at that time.

I think you're taking it too personal. It's just people have different ways of perceiving various characters and their actions. Especially their likes and dislikes play a vital role in judging a characters actions here.

If Ruhaan does it, it's admiring and it's enjoyed and if Pari does it, its considered as drooling and annoying. smiley36 So if a character isn't liked whatever they do is criticised sometimes it could be fair and sometimes unfair.

Similar way, When Veer is concerned whatever he does is scrutinized and is considered to be something terrible and unlikeable and eventually it becomes a reason for people to not empathize with him...

I don't find anything terribly wrong with Veer, honestly speaking. He's a decent guy who has faced a painful rejection and it's normal for him to not think of Arnav... Nothing wrong at all. But people do have various opinions. And whatever we discuss or argue povs can never be changed. That's the biggest lesson I've learnt in IF...😆

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