Harry Potter Harmful To Children?

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Posted: 17 years ago
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My guess is that most people on this forum have either read some of the Harry Potter books or have seen some of the Harry Potter movies, or you have children who are very much into these things.

If so, this is a YouTube video that you have GOT to see:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iKfFnABBis

Most people think that Harry Potter is a safe, fun, fantasy world that is great entertainment for our children, but as the film shockingly shows, that is not the case at all.

Did you know that the Harry Potter series describes witchcraft and the Occult with amazing precision and accuracy?

Did you know that the Harry Potter series is doing an amazing job of recriting our children into Occult religions?

One of the most stunning things in the film is the way that children describe the impact that Harry Potter has had on them. What the children have to say about Harry Potter will blow your mind.

Trust me, you will never look at Harry Potter the same way again.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2iKfFnABBis

So what do you all think? After learning the things in the YouTube clip I know my outlook is different. Do the rest of you still think Harry Potter is a good thing for our society?

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Oh my god. What a joke....i just cant stop laughing....hahahahhh! 😆 😆 😆
Harry Potter teaches occultism??? hahahhhhh!!!! Greatest joke i have ever heard!!! 🤣

People who thinks HP to harm children, are either IGNORANT or they havent read HP books properly... 😆 😆

HP is one of the very rare books which teaches moral. Very good morals. Nowadya most books have no messages/morals...but HP does have.

HP makes children understand the meaning of "love", sacrifice, etc properly....

Andro dear, this kinds of article had been send 1000 times saying that HP is harmful to children...but none of the article cud give proper logic.

i dont understand how can people ever think HP to be harmful when it teaches children and people all over the world and age soo many good things???

HP's whole theme is about love and acrifice which is a very good thing. HP book two makes us understand things about racism....hp book 3, talksa bout crime and punishement....every book of HP has gota good theme....and teaches us something!!!!! goodd!!!

Dont know how can people ever think HP book to glorify black magic, when HP books clearly states that doing black magic is bad!!!!

Peopole who thinks HP to provide bad meanings have not read HP books properly, or they r just jealous of HP's popularity!

PS: this words are for who says stupid things about HP, not to u, Andro! 😆

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: ''Andro''

So what do you all think? After learning the things in the YouTube clip I know my outlook is different. Do the rest of you still think Harry Potter is a good thing for our society?

Andro,

have u usself read harry potter?😉i will request u to plz read the books and judge it urself that these books teaches bad things or not!😳

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Here is ONE great article....READ:

Biblical Symbolism in the World of Harry Potter

An original editorial by Amanda




I'm sure every HP fan is aware of the avid religious groups who are against the world of Harry Potter because the books and movies are supposedly evil due to their exhibition of magic and witchcraft. A pastor's daughter, I have been forbidden to read the novels or watch the movies. But I do so in secret anyway. Although I am an open- minded Christian, I still can find no problems with Harry Potter that are religiously threatening at all; on the contrary, I have done a fair amount of research on the biblical symbolism included in the novels and have found many parallels between Harry Potter and Bible stories. This editorial is not meant to offend anyone, religious or not. This is merely a way for some of the very interesting symbols and stories shared by Harry Potter and the Bible to be recognized. Some of these ideas are ones I posted long ago on SparkNotes.com, but I have decided to incorporate that research into an editorial. In all honesty, I don't understand how something that displays so many positive moral values as Harry Potter can be considered evil in the first place. Maybe Christian leaders grew alarmed by the widespread popularity of the books and feared they would eventually sell more copies than the Bible, thus making the books "evil." Maybe they decided to forget about the popular stories and movies that they grew up with that portrayed witches and wizards as "good" characters (i.e., The Wizard of Oz, The Sword and the Stone, Charmed). Maybe they decided that, instead of focusing their energy on banning the things that are actually evil, they should focus their energy on protesting make- believe stories that cause widespread reading to occur amongst our children. Maybe we'll never know. Elements of a Christian World View Without digging too deep into the actual context of the novels, Harry Potter as a whole displays some similarities with the worldview Christianity teaches. Here are a few biblical teachings displayed in the Harry Potter novels:
A. Self-Sacrifice. Lily Potter sacrificed herself to save Harry as an infant, similar to Jesus sacrificing himself on Calvary.
B. Friendship. The unstoppable trio (Harry, Ron, and Hermione) and the Marauders (James, Peter, Lupin, and Sirius) are similar to the friendship shown by Jesus' apostles.
C. Courage. Many of the characters, and Harry in particular, have to face their fears during the course of the novels and "fight the good fight," as the apostle Paul would have said.
D. Anti-Discrimination. House-elves, werewolves, or giants, anyone? E. Loyalty. The "good" characters of Harry Potter all exhibit a form of loyalty at some point, an obvious one being the loyalty that Hogwarts students – Harry in particular – show toward Dumbledore.

"Harry Potter Day"

"I wouldn't be surprised if today was known as Harry Potter Day in the future."

When closely examined, obvious parallels exist between the birth of Jesus and Harry Potter's defeat of Voldemort as an infant. Like the Star of the East shines in the heavens to mark Christ's birth, shooting stars streak across the sky after the defeat of Voldemort. A strangely dressed man approaches Mr. Dursley on the street and proclaims that even a Muggle such as himself should be rejoicing on such a happy day, just as the Gentiles are told to rejoice with the birth of Christ. It is obvious from the start that both of these babies are meant to play a very special roles in their futures, although very few know exactly how great they will become and what they will do in the future.

Peter Pettigrew = Judas This parallel, once pointed out, is very obvious. Judas is one of the twelve apostles and a trusted friend, just as Pettigrew is one of the four Marauders and a trusted friend. However, both of these characters betray those close to them (Judas -> Jesus, Pettigrew -> James and Lily) and contribute greatly to the downfall of their friends. In the Bible, Judas is the one who betrays Jesus by telling the soldiers where Jesus is praying in the garden, resulting in the crucifixion of Christ. In Harry Potter, Pettigrew is the one who tells Voldemort the location of the Potters, resulting in the murder of Lily and James. In addition, after Judas tells the soldiers where Jesus is hiding, he receives a payment of twenty pieces of silver for betraying Christ. Similarly, at the end of Goblet of Fire, Peter Pettigrew receives a silver hand from Voldemort after helping to bring Harry (and poor Cedric) to the graveyard where Voldemort's revival occurs. Another surprising parallel that also serves as possible foreshadowing is the guilt felt by Judas/Pettigrew after their traitorous actions. Although it has not been stated directly, one can assume Pettigrew felt/feels a significant amount of guilt after betraying the people closest to him. After Judas betrays Jesus, he is so overcome with grief that he commits suicide. Pettigrew, although he was absent for the entire length of Order of the Phoenix, may die in one of the future books. Is it possible Pettigrew will take his own life as a result of his grief? I think so. Animal Symbolism Two different creatures in the Harry Potter universe are sometimes used to represent Christ: the phoenix and the unicorn. The phoenix, obviously, represents Christ's resurrection, while the unicorn symbolizes Christ's purity. Similarly, Satan is often represented as a serpent or snake. From what we know of the Slytherin house, which is represented by a snake, serpents are symbols of evil. The same can be said of the Basilisk in Chamber of Secrets. The Number Twelve As MuggleNet has already demonstrated, 12 is a recurring number in the Harry Potter books. There are too many references in the books to list here, but look at the article about the number twelve on this website. Now let's consider the use of the number twelve in the Bible.
12 apostles of Jesus
12 sons/tribes of Israel
12 wells at Elim
12 stones on the breastplate of the High Priest
12 loaves in the Tabernacle
12 stars on the crown in Revelation
12 foundation stones on the gold palace in Revelation

There are many other references to the number twelve in the Bible, but I chose to include the more significant ones here. And I am aware that this particular Gospel parallel may not be entirely relevant in the long run, but it's still pretty cool.

The Mark of God In Revelation 9, there are a few verses that refer to God granting protection to those who have His mark on their foreheads. The lightning-bolt scar on Harry's forehead will forever remain as a mark of his mother's sacrifice to save him. Dumbledore tells Harry in Sorcerer's Stone that his mother's death instilled in Harry a protective force to guard him from Voldemort, which is a direct parallel to this Biblical reference. By recognizing these parallels between the Bible and Harry Potter, are there possible actions in future books that can be predicted by the information we have? In no way am I suggesting that Hermione will lead the House-elves to the Promised Land or that Harry will perform miracles and rise from the dead after dying a gruesome, unjust death.

But perhaps Harry will perform the ultimate sacrifice by defeating Voldemort and dying himself so everyone else will have the chance to live on. We really won't know until the releases of Half- Blood Prince and Book 7, but it's still fun to make predictions based on the possible foreshadowing and Biblical symbolism.

Link: http://www.mugglenet.com/editorials/editorials/edit-amandah0 1.shtml

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Posted: 17 years ago
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You gotta love some of this anti Harry Potter people. Always makes me wonder what they are smoking to have such vivid imagination.

Harry Potter is fantasy FICTION, a mythical world of magic. The characters and events are not real and meant for entertainment purposes. Just like the world CS Lewis's Narnia, Baum's Oz or Tolkien's middle earth it is a whole new world where imagination comes alive. This imagination is not only creative but healthy and conducive to thought process. It makes us think about the eternal battle between good and evil in a way we can relate to and enjoy.

Finally there is nothing wrong with people being interested in Wicca or any other pagan religion. It is bigoted to consider paganism to be Satanic or evil simply because it does not concur with monotheistic theology. There are people just like you and me practicing Wicca as their religion, we ought to respect their faith.

Finally as the Wiccan rede states "Eight words the Wiccan Rede fulfill, An it harm none do what ye will" Which means whatever you do, you must never harm any other living being, which to me is a noble concept. So if Harry Potter makes children want to be withces, so be it. The power of three forever!
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Its interesting how the Vatican and Church so strongly condemn Harry Potter, for reasons unknown.

I recently came across an article in which the Vatican exorcised Harry Potter so strongly that it tickled my funny bone, I couldn't stop smirking...The Title of the concerned article...What was it...sumthing like 'Devil in Detail' or whatever Crap!

"Behind Harry Potter hides the signature of the king of the darkness, the devil"

They say...Harry Potter is not a Model Hero. He breaks Rules, He doesnt show respect to everyone, He practices Dark Spells (Interestingly, all kinds of magic fall into one single category apparently-Black Magic), references to satanic art, and countless others (If u want real bad to accuse someone or something, u are bound to come up with countless ones)

Whats even more funny is that, in the same article, I recall vaguely having read something like a comparison b/w these accusations against HP and Adolf Hitler! 😆 😆
It is said by some people as a major Corrupting influence (In what way, I fathom not)

I am no one to say anything against anyone's opinion. Its the basic human right to voice ur views.
But We must not be hypocrites...and that to extreme for that matter.
U see what u want to see but conveniently choose to give a miss to many major positive points...
What these people must also remember is that Harry Potter is also about Courage, Friendship, Power of Love and Truth , Sacrifice.
N a Good point in Labib's Post about Anti Discrimination..That is quite a strong point for that matter.

all said and done, we must not dig up only the cons and choose to turn a blind eye to the pros (which by far outnumber the cons if any)

Nother thing is, how does it actually "Preach" or "Teach" Satanic ways or whatever...? There is no imposing of views. U have to have your of views on things and not parrot what someone says (through whatever means, thats immaterial). Agreed, Hp is widely read and so a "bad message" is disagreeable no doubt, But does it say..."c'mon fellows...Pagan it is!" or what? Most people read HP for the fun of it. Very few actually study it deeply for symbolisms and all and Its pathetic how people critisise for the sake of it!😕

and at the end of the day, Harry Potter is mainly an intelligent fun time read--a combination we rarely see. We have to give credit where its due. Hp Gives u wings, Fly along if u want to. Dont fume ur heads over every nook n corner of the book.
Edited by lucky_lakshmi - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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BAPRE....wat a joke 😆 i wil say read d buk n den judge widout only watchin dese worthless vids 😊
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Thanks Lakshmi, Return to hades (sorry dont know ur name and bitasta for the help...i agree with u people. This book is just a fictional world and nothing else! Dont know why people dont get it....its no where written in the book that "study dark magic", instead black magic is always insulted in the books....
Actually people who says these have not actually read the books properly...
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Labib
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: lucky_lakshmi


They say...Harry Potter is not a Model Hero. He breaks Rules, He doesnt show respect to everyone, He practices Dark Spells (Interestingly, all kinds of magic fall into one single category apparently-Black Magic), references to satanic art, and countless others (If u want real bad to accuse someone or something, u are bound to come up with countless ones)

LMAO! No wonder they have so much disdain for Lyra Belacqua. A liar, a thief, a cheat who had no respect.

I think Harry Potter is a very realistic hero in so many ways. Beneath the hero is an ordinary boy. He goes to school, studies, makes friends and tries to fit in like everybody. There are poor choices and some good choices. Overall he stands for the greater good. Similarly James to was not the best of people, his treatment of Severus was mean. But in the end he was a guy with a good heart who did the right things.

People should stop expecting perfect heroes. Nobody can be perfect. Heroes who make mistakes, have flaws, but still redeem themselves are heroes people can relate too. They give encouragement that we to can accomplish things despite our shortcomings.

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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: stranger@mirror

Thanks Lakshmi, Return to hades (sorry dont know ur name and bitasta for the help...i agree with u people. This book is just a fictional world and nothing else! Dont know why people dont get it....its no where written in the book that "study dark magic", instead black magic is always insulted in the books....
Actually people who says these have not actually read the books properly...
😆
Labib

or may b dey r dumb-headed gits hu dusnt unnerstnd english😡😆

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