Chakor- the woman i will always treasure

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I was away for some time so wasn't participating in the discussions, finally I have got some quality time and I decided to share my thoughts in the forum. My views may not make sense to all but I will try to put down what I feel. Sorry for long post

Chakor falling in love with Raghav was too quick for some, for some it was messy, for some it was ok and for some it was unacceptable and butchering. The way I look at it, it makes sense and I am glad they didnt take conventional route for her because after showing such a deep and memorable love story between Sukor they can't show Chakor taking the similar route with another man where they cover all the steps in the same order. They aren't showing Ragkor as replacements to Sukor. Chakor fell in love with Raghav much before but his love confession gave her locked feelings an opening. Yes I to wanted more SS for Chakor emotions, more detail etc. but I am trying to accept the fact that the writing team will always give us less than we want. I rather enjoy the good and hope they will keep up the progress with Ragkor post the love confession. Chakor expressions and gestures post the confession have been shown well, when the marriage talk started her expression transformed slowly, one could see the difference between hers and Raghav expression. I am rooting to see more emotions form Chakor in coming episodes.

Chakor lost Suraj in the most tragic way. She was shattered but the only driving force for her was her child. When she saw Raghav, his face was the key to her; she hired him and got him to the haveli. she knew he isnt Suraj but she wanted him there for Anjor sake. It was so painful for her to see him all the time bec his face always reminded her of Suraj and the fact kept coming in front of her that he isnt Suraj and he has gone forever.

it takes a moment to fall in love but falling in love doesnt mean Chakor has moved on. For me she loves Raghav, she has spelt i love you out too, but its in a simple and plain way. she didnt pour out her emotions. They is much more to love than the typical I love you sentence. Chakor love confession to Raghav was bang on imo, bec it fits in the stage she is at right now. Chakor is NOT opening out to Raghav completely yet, she is still hesitant, slight discomfort, no passion, no possessiveness as such, she doesn't fantasize him. she currently is taking baby steps towards him. Chakor has NOT moved on yet. Chakor will move on only when she completely surrenders herself and her emotions to Raghav.

As far as Suraj goes, Chakor will always love him and he will always be a part of her. Just because she loves Raghav, It doesn't mean she no longer loves Suraj. The way we cherish Suraj, Chakor to will cherish Suraj and their beautiful memories. When one loses a spouse to death, they dont stop loving him/her, they keep the love intact inside them and they love their children whom are a symbol of their love. People die not love and Sukor love is everlasting

Chakor is wearing Suraj Mangalsutra but the reason for that is Anjor. if she takes it off, it will lead to Anjor inquiring and doubting. i do feel its time now that Chakor should tell Anjor the truth, hope the makers focus on that angle soon

Yes Chakor is not shown having fbs of Suraj all the time now but that's maybe because makers want audience to move on with Chakor Raghav. i do feel Chakor will have fbs of Suraj whenever its needed. She not having suraj fbs all the time doesn't mean she has forgotten him.

as far as Chakor not shown feeling guilty and her doings not being justified, imo love cant be justified,,Raghav as an individual has made such a great impact on Chakor that she couldnt hold herself back and his pure and profound love confession to Chakor played a grand role. She got to hear from him what he feels for her, what she means to him and he is wants to make her a part of his life. Those words of him began her walk on a path, which lead to her finally accepting her love too.

Chakor has been in love before so I don't think it should be hard for her understand the emotion she Is carrying for Raghav. When one hasn't been in love he/she may be confused, with Chakor the case is different. Raghav has won Chakor love but they is a lot more steps Chakor needs to take and Raghav will help her.

Writers need to concentrate on building the depth between Chakor Raghav. They should have heart to heart conversations. They can show the aspect of Chakor having guilt feelings only when Anjor gets to know and she con fronts her. I to want to see Chakor get more SS to showcase her emotions in greater level but I have decided not to let any weak writing over power what I am enjoying in the show. They is a lot to add and explore and I hope the writer will continue adding to Chakor-Raghav.

Chakor Raghav scenes this week were well sketched out and Chakor emotions and gestures were relatable

I did see the VJ iv where he brought up the fact that if Suraj is not there, they cant show Chakor alone. I believe he is trying to out forward the practical side of it all.

I know many were deeply connected to Suraj and Sukor and I do understand your views but lets look at it this way, the show is over 1200 episodes if they hadn't brought in this highpoint, they would have gone for a generation leap and we would have not got meejay too. Things would have been worst if they hadn't retained Vj and got another actor to play Chakor love interest. We should be happy they brought him back as Raghav and we continue to enjoy meejay rocking chemistry. We need to appreciate the good things too. Having said that I don't want Suraj back if he is not Raghav, because the triangle between Chakor,. Suraj and Raghav would be beyond painful to bear. If Raghav is not Suraj then better to let Suraj be in peace and continue with Ragkor. Hope I haven't hurted anyones feelings

Imo Chakor hasn't been butchered because she hasn't betrayed Suraj and his love in any way, she fell in love with Raghav and that's something beyond her control.

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Beautiful post
No words for it👏
You have penned your take on Chakor beautifully👏
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Ruby dear ,
A very well written post 👏👏 👏about chakor.
Your viewpoints on her and the current happenings in her life , you have expressed so beautifully.


This is the thing I love about this forum. The viewpoints are stated in such a way that make us re-analyse ours. And its also stated in a way that doesn't affect the one having a different POV from that.

To be honest, on the lack of scenes on chakor emotion and the little dis connectivity I feel with her bcoz hers being ignored/compromised for deviji sake make me feel bad while seeing the epi.

But after coming to forum, the diff take of mesh, yours, bini and nikki, make me feel relieved with what shown. infact make me glad.

Totally agree on after confession reactions and emotions. especially I loved yesterday's. but here too I think, the credit goes to more for MeeJay than writing. writing still lacks .

Writers need to concentrate on building the depth between Chakor Raghav. They should have heart to heart conversations. They can show the aspect of Chakor having guilt feelings only when Anjor gets to know and she con fronts her. I to want to see Chakor get more SS to showcase her emotions in greater level but I have decided not to let any weak writing over power what I am enjoying in the show. They is a lot to add and explore and I hope the writer will continue adding to Chakor-Raghav


exactly this is what I want to see. hope writers do the needful.

Like Sumi said in her post, the love in her eyes to be explicitly shown till time needed, still journey remaining to reach there.

I wish that journey was shown beautifully.

as you said , still the discomfort being there and not totally surrended.
I want to see that transistion happening slowly and shown to us.





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Kavi, katherine and Uma thanks for the appreciation
Uma the way i look at it,Ragkor have been shown beautifully and hope they continue to grow in a beautiful manner. its quality which matters not always the quantity. i understood much before that Chakor has started to fall for Raghav so for me nothing came as a surprise, i give credit to Raghav for being such a genuine and lovable individual that led Chakor to open the doors of her heart for him, esp after being in love so deeply with suraj too.its very easy to love a guy like Raghav imo, his character is that way. the same applies for Chakor, she is technically a widow and has a daughter too but that didnt hold raghav back from falling for her

i believe the journey has just started and they is a lot more to come
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Originally posted by: Ruby7

Kavi, katherine and Uma thanks for the appreciation

Uma the way i look at it,Ragkor have been shown beautifully and hope they continue to grow in a beautiful manner. its quality which matters not always the quantity. i understood much before that Chakor has started to fall for Raghav so for me nothing came as a surprise, i give credit to Raghav for being such a genuine and lovable individual that led Chakor to open the doors of her heart for him, esp after being in love so deeply with suraj too.its very easy to love a guy like Raghav imo, his character is that way. the same applies for Chakor, she is technically a widow and has a daughter too but that didnt hold raghav back from falling for her

i believe the journey has just started and they is a lot more to come



Totally agree on this point. infact bang on


Its not about moving on always and chakor cant stay alone, so she has to move on.

its not the reason we too accepted her moving on track.

Raghav wasn't accepted by chakor or us for the reason she cant stay alone.

Point is as you said, Raghav made her opened her doors of heart for him.
she started having feelings for him feeling that he will be her good companion. A pure belief, faith she started having on that innocent soul.

so when she feel that for him, when he is so genuine, we are ready to accept her future with him.


Having said that but i still believe writers should do more justice to Raghav-chakor.

as you said we need more scenes which have depth. more heart-heart conversations. i would always love to see that.


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Absolutely uma. Raghav as an individual has succeeded.in making his own place in Chakor heart. With time the depth will build on and the connection will continue to increase. I am loving the pace and progress in ragkor post chakor love confession. their expressions, body language and gestures with little actions are exciting to watch. I loved how raghav touched chakor hair on sat, Chakor nervousness was cute. They should continue showing such moments.
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Superd Ruby!

I hope This post will make fans understand chakor current state.

Chakor fall in love with raghav too fast because raghav is lookalike suraj, if other face she definitely will not.

Raghav's face play a important role for chakor. That's why she connected to him fast. It's doesn't mean she forgot suraj. Suraj can't be replaced but he just take another avatar for chakor to love her..

Sorry guy I don't know what I'm writing. I'm quite upset to see some of fans bushing chakor in Twitter
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Ruby
Welcome back

That excellent 👏 each and every word and line perfecto!!!

I always looked forward for your Chakor analysis on twitter and when you told that you were tied up with your new project I could understand but I for sure was waiting for your views of Chakor as perfectly put the woman we treasure, pride about, and our head automatically goes high of her.

Thanks for writing this and sharing this on twitter too. Much needed.

Not much to add but few lines to add to your string of pearls!

They aren't showing Ragkor as replacements to Sukor. Chakor fell in love with Raghav much before but his love confession gave her locked feelings an opening.

perfect, yes Sukor is divine cannot be replaced. Just a little tweek I would say, indeed Chakor started liking Raaghav much before his love confession as the comfort he gave her in handling Anjor and also the way he stood for her during Rajjoo case and the way he spoke his feelings (which wasTHE BEST he spoke the unspoken words and made her feel the feelings she never felt), she infact then started to realise her inclining to like him but the thought of Suraj was maybe holding her as she kept to herself reminding he is not Suraj and cannot become like him but in a way deep inside her heart she feels if Suraj is coming to her in another form... (just my thought as she keeps remembering his words, even if i die bring me back alive as none can love you like me... and she is witnessing Raaghav's unconditional love)

For me she loves Raghav, she has spelt i love you out too, but its in a simple and plain way. she didnt pour out her emotions. There is much more to love than the typical I love you sentence. Chakor love confession to Raghav was bang on imo, bec it fits in the stage she is at right now. Chakor is NOT opening out to Raghav completely yet, she is still hesitant, slight discomfort, no passion, no possessiveness as such, she doesn't fantasize him. she currently is taking baby steps towards him. Chakor has NOT moved on yet. Chakor will move on only when she completely surrenders herself and her emotions to Raghav.

I am just loving this as you are echoing my thoughts as while I am in awe at the innocent soul, Raaghav who took the bold step to love , fall for a mother, a widow not because of the beauty or due to some pity on Chakor but for the sheer fact he is simply astounded at her boldness, her bravity and also the grit she holds to overcome her buried emotions for safeguarding the symbol of her and Suraj's love and at the same time fighting for the society. He feels proud to love her no wonder he is still calling her maidam.

Every line about Chakor is bang on, as I wrote earlier, there is no love, lust, passion, even when she smiles she holds herself, her hugs are restricted like a friendly hug, she is yet to open up completely and that will happen only when she surrenders her emotions first and will take time to physically surrender.

To be very honest I was totally down, upset after my dude's vanishing act but what you stated about the completion of 1200 epi, the show norms etc etc (thanks a ton to Nikki who patiently made me understand) and to Mai, Bini who were sharing their unbiased views I could start liking Raaghav... and have no shy I am just loving him equally if not more than my dude. (thanks to VJ for this).

Just one more point to ponder and if you and other share your views

I am silent on twitter as i feel sad about everything and though i am pained of Suraj vanishing... In all this even if Chakor falls for Raghav whats wrong in turning Raaghav into Suraj?? (which I seriously want to) I am not able to understand.

though she has said I love you and started feeling comfortable with his presence, why should not he be Suraj. What wrong will come on Chakor? In fact I felt that he turning Suraj will all the more make Suraj (erstwhile Raaghav) understand the hesitation of his Chakor throughout and how she managed against all odds to keep up the promise to him to Safeguard Anjor and who did not fall just out of passion or lust but out of the goodness she saw in Raaghav.


Thanks Ruby and sorry for my essay!!








Edited by sumsukor - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Hey Ruby...😊
Though personally,the show,its characters now mean nothing more to me... .And Chakor as a character just lost its place in my heart.😳

But I must say that... ..You have beautifully written this post dedicated to Chakor 👍🏼

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