Mauli isn't dependant on Ishaan

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Correct me if I'm wrong but Mauli has never asked Ishaan to do anything for her and Mishti has she? He does it willingly and yes it's very very nice that he does but look at it from Mauli's POV, she hasn't ever expected anything from him. She doesn't rely on him for Mishti so how can she take advantage of him?

I think people are only seeing that Ishaan is a great guy but not seeing that Mauli has never been dependent on him, they've never even suggested that!

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Posted: 6 years ago
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It has nothing got to do with Mauli's self dependency . It's not about Ishaan doing any thing for Mauli or Mishti as ehsaan . Ishaan himself has said time and again that he does every thing that he does because he considers them as his own , because he loved them selflessly .
Now where is Mauli wrong here ?? Let's talk about that.

Where was Mr. 100 % trust worthy Kunal all these 6 years of Mishti's life ?? Yeah , that's correct , no where there for her . It has always been Ishaan since she was 3 year old , since she gained even a little consciousness of family dynamics and relationship structures in society . She never missed out on any thing because Ishaan was always there for her as this great father figure .
Had Ishaan not been there for Mishti , I'd say Kunal's words would've correct - Mauli's decision to keep Kunal in the unaware resulted in robbing Mishti of half of her happiness , half of her rightful normal childhood.
The only thing that literally saves the situation from Mauli being a selfish egoistic mother , was the fact that Ishaan was there.
What he did for Mishti is huge . There's absolutely no way to overestimate it . It is a very big thing to do.

Doesn't it give him any right whatsoever to take any decision or at least be part of decision making processes where Mishti is concerned ?? He's not even informed that Mishti went missing . Mauli didn't have to go with him to find Mishti , but the least she could've done is - at least let him know.

At this point , Mauli has no right to take every decision of Mishti's life unilaterally . That;s a very selfish thing to do. Ishaan is NOT just Mauli's fiance , his relationship with Mishti is NOT Mishti ke mummy ke mangetaar , it's so much more. It's an separate relationship.

He's no blood relationship with the child , which doesn't give him any legal rights whatsoever on Mishti .
But he's every bit of right to be there for Mishti in every possible way as much as Mauli . If Mauli ignores this right , then she'll be overlooking the contribution of Ishaan in giving Mishti a normal stress free happy childhood . In that case , I'd say serves her right to be treated the way Kunan treated her . No wonder she forgave them so easily ; their behavior must've come across not a big deal for her any more. She herself is taking Ishaan for granted and coming across as very entitled and ungrateful . Sorry , there's no sugar quoting it.
Edited by Carmilla - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Ishaan came in Mouli and Mishti's life only 3 years before, isn't it? and i think that's what has been shown.

So for the first 3 years, it was Mouli herself along with Dida and Radhika who supported each other and raised up Mishti. People are acting as if its the other way round and as if Ishaan is the one taking care of Dida, Radhika, Mishti and even Mouli since forever and they can't or couldn't survive without him. Not so. He's supports them, but they themselves too were pretty self sufficient.
Also Radhika herself raised kids alone, so its not like Mouli can't raise Mishti alone either.

It's interesting that the same people who talk about Mouli's self respect, her independence and what not now want her to worship the ground Ishaan walks on. Women power and all the talk yeah i see that !

You know what, I will go as far as say that they should go braver and if Mouli should remain single. Even showing things like sudden realization of love and running to Ishan will be very cliched. Mouli said love happens once. If that is her belief than hold true to it. Why again make it a cliche case where a woman may need a man along to complete her or for happy life especially if its just a compromise.

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Let's not confuse Mauli's happiness with Mishti's happiness. Let's not confuse Mauli's needs with a 6 yr child's. Mauli's independence and self sufficiency has nothing got to do with Mishti's normal childhood . Absolutely nothing .
There are so many single parents around the world , yes they bring up their kids alone. Doesn't mean the kids in such set ups don't miss the other half of their parent - be it father or mother . In fact , they do terribly. Fact. It goes onto become unrequited lifelong craving.
Had Ishaan not come to her life, she'd have grown Mishti up with help from Radhika and Dida no doubt , but that doesn't mean that'd have been adequate for Mishti. As soon as she'd see her class mates , her friends enjoying lvoe and care from both parents , that craving for father's love would've started aching inside her and no amount Mauli's independent self reliance would've cured or healed that ache.
Mauli can stay single, can remarry some one else, can remarry Kunal- who cares ?? Her life . Whatever suits her happiness. Who are we to preach ?? I'd be unhappy if she reunites with Kunal only because it'd look really unrealistic ( as I've not seen , nor heard of a even a single such case of reconciliation. ) But it's Mishti who's happiness MUST not be sacrificed at the altar of Mauli's independence or her being the strong woman or whatever. The bond that she has developed with Ishaan is an individual one-to-one and should be treated as such , and not as a projection of Mishti-Ishaan-Kunal relationship graph.
Edited by Carmilla - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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I know of children raised by single parents who have managed to have normal and happy childhoods. Mishti wouldn't have been lacking in anything if Ishaan hadn't been in the picture.

Saying Mauli was a good mom ONLY because she brought Ishaan into Mishti's life, is a huge disservice to all single parents parents out there.

And just because the show likes to romanticize how the absence of a mother or a father results in the child not being ~complete, doesn't mean it's the reality. A parent dying is different from the parent not being in the picture at all.

Edited by Roonil_Wazlib - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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I don't understand. What makes you think Mishti would not have a normal childhood if Ishaan was not there. He was not there the first 3 yrs of her life. Pari does not have her mother last 2 years. Are they abnormal?? Have they led an abnormal life ???
Mishti had her grandma too.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Who's taking about abnormal . Children can grow up to be wholesome human beings in any kind of set ups , with or without parents. They can grow up to be great people even if they grown out of family structure , say in a orphanage. That's a given. It's about their emotional needs.
Ahh are we talking about Pari here ?? I was about to mention her .

Kunal clearly said many time Pari misses her mother terribly all the time even though Kunal is a great father towards her. That's why it's kind of given that she's so possessive and territorial about her father.

In fact even in today's phone conversation, Kunal explained that he understands how much Mishti will miss her mother if she is separated from her because he sees Pari missing her mother terribly every day.

There we go. Kunal is a paediatrician and a father , he can see first hand that a child needs both of her parents . Simple as that.
Edited by Carmilla - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: *Reemz*

Correct me if I'm wrong but Mauli has never asked Ishaan to do anything for her and Mishti has she? He does it willingly and yes it's very very nice that he does but look at it from Mauli's POV, she hasn't ever expected anything from him. She doesn't rely on him for Mishti so how can she take advantage of him?

I think people are only seeing that Ishaan is a great guy but not seeing that Mauli has never been dependent on him, they've never even suggested that!


i partially agree to what u said reemz.
mauli has been always independent for most of her life.. kunal used to pick and drop her when she had late night emergency cases.. he was her husband , she was his responsibility too. the relationship was of mutual care, love and responsibilities.. so caring about each other, helping each other was absolutely normal.. she was independent back then also..
now mauli has given ishaan all rights of mishti's father herself by accepting him as a life partner.. so again its not about dependence . its about mutual care, love and responsibilities towards each other.. i will be mad at her if it was some other situation..

she didnt tell him as she was extremely tensed wondering where did mishti go.. she couldnt think of calling her friends.. kunal has to tell her this.. she didnt inform police . didnt call back at home to know if mishti had reached..
its not that she just didnt bother to tell only ishaan.. she forget many important things..

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Ishan and mauli are parents so the sharing has to be there for transparency even mauli told a lie she told kunal assured when she met him at his clinic she did not tell him bout the phone call so better mauli be transparent or leave him
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Nandini didn't die during childbirth. She died later of cancer. Which means Pari knew her Mom, and also knew that her mom passed away.

In Mishti's case, Mauli was all she knew. Mauli was her mom and dad. For the first 3 years at least. Why would that have changed if Ishaan hadn't come into their lives?
And that's what I meant. A parent dying on a child leaves a mark. A parent being out of the picture before the child is even born? That doesn't make a difference. The remaining parent will supplement that absence.

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