Performance Enhancing Drugs - is it really cheating?

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Performance enhancing drugs (or what is simply referred to as steroids by common people) is banned by most sporting organisations as it is considered cheating and puts the athlete's life at risk. However, is it really cheating?
Performance enhancing drugs certainly do enhance performance, but so do many other factors. Why then, taking PEDs become cheating whereas everything else is legal?

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Posted: 6 years ago
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I do think it's cheating.


Performance enhancing drugs certainly do enhance performance, but so do many other factors.


By many other factors you mean food, lifestyle, mood? :p

Condemnation of PEDs is I think because it removes a level-playing field, which is unfair. But if all the sportsmen were to use PEDs it really doesn't make much sense to me because I think sports is about putting your natural physical and mental abilities to test.

And, it's unnatural, PEDs are said to mess with the metabolisms, and a whole lot of other chemical stuff (excuse the lack of awareness :p ) which is unnatural for the body..

What's your argument on this?
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To say that taking performance enhancing drugs is cheating (or not cheating), first we need to define what is cheating. The simplest meaning of cheating is to gain advantage by unfair means. Do PEDs give an advantage, obviously. But is it unfair? I have my doubts about that.

The ban on PEDs is not absolute. Some countries make their sale more difficult than others, but they are available everywhere and are easily sourced. So, how is it unfair if it is available to everyone, everyone is free to take it and then out of them whoever is the best, wins.

Moreover, only those substances which are currently known are put on the banned list by sporting authorities. However, we all know laboratories are always researching and coming up with latest drugs that are completely new and therefore not on the radar yet. They might get banned down the road, but till the time it is not, it will give an advantage to those athletes who have access to it, more specifically to athletes of that country where that substance has been developed. How is it fair that we enable cash rich countries and their athletes, who can afford expensive research to come up with a new PED, to take them and enhance their performance, but we don't allow athletes from poorer countries to have anything to do with older known PEDs. How is that a level playing field? That is more unfair in my opinion.

Coming to the aspect of performance enhancing, is PED the only thing that enhances performance? Not so. Although it might be the easiest and cheapest way to enhance performance. Training infrastructure, equipment, proper nutrition, all such things also impact performance enhancement. But these things are expensive. It costs money to have a good training infrastructure for everyone in a country, from the grassroots to elite athletes. It costs money to do research and find out which training equipment or diet will produce the best results. and providing elite level nutrition for everyone will cost humongous amounts of money. Even if the latest training equipment is available on the market, or the best dietitians are available for hire, most of the chances are you'll have to spend large sum of money to get them from a developed country. Even best quality whey proteins, BCAA, and other such supplements are most of the times imported. How many countries can afford that or can give priority to such expenditures, especially for all the budding athletes and not just their elite athletes. Whereas, almost everyone can afford the old PEDs and it can be manufactured by any local pharma company. So, instead of helping to level the playing field, organisations like WADA are helping only the financially rich countries to have an advantage, by allowing those performance enhancing aspects which are costly, but disallowing the easily available and cheap performance enhancing substances.

Coming to the point of natural. In our life as human beings, which aspect is completely natural nowadays. If I take the matter of nutrition, is whey protein, BCAA, vitamin tablets, iron/ calcium/ zinc etc. tablets, creatine, glucosamine, and so many other supplements, natural? Is it not unfair advantage then to reach optimum intake level of each mineral or substance necessary for peak performance, without having to consume whole foods. If an athlete had to get all these through whole foods, they'd have to consume such enormous amount of food that they'd have a difficult time reaching that optimum level for every substance while at the same time maintaining a calorie intake that the body can metabolise and not put on fat. Then why this exception for PEDs? Testosterone is just that, testosterone, as natural as they come, produced by the body all the time. So is human growth hormone. And anabolic steroids just mimic testosterone and it's function, only multiple times more potent. So how is it that testosterone and HGH is considered unnatural but other supplements are natural. They are more natural than Gatorade.

Lastly, the other reason that is cited for this ban, adverse effects. Yes, PEDs have adverse side effects, especially in high doses. But then so does sports itself. Every elite athlete nowadays trains intensely all day, every day for maybe 20-25 years of their life. And we all are aware how much stress that causes on their body - their muscles, joints, bones, even brains because of concussions, and the sports related injuries that athletes suffer. Yet we encourage athletes to do exactly that, train for so many years, putting enormous stress on their body, suffering injuries, yet somehow the adverse effects of PEDs seems to be the only thing we have a problem with.
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Yes it is cheating. It creates a tilted playing field. In the athletics field, erythropoietin increases the oxygen carrying capacity of blood and therefore aerobic respiration which can be sustained for a longer time as opposed to anaerobic respiration which the body eventually switches to under the duress of elite sprints.
People like Florence Griffith Joyner were using steroids and testosterone and died of an epileptic seizure. So what is the take away here? The one who can abuse their system to the max, the one who is willing to risk their life for a medal, wins?

Lance Armstrong was using blood bags to increase erythropoeitin before a race and he was banned for life though he had been a most celebrated athlete for almost a decade. Frankly I felt sorry for him because i doubt that any of the Tour de France cyclists is NOT a cheater. The race is just too grueling and unbelievable.

Then again, someone with a good knowledge of human biochemistry and breathing science may have an advantage over others if he chooses to keep that knowledge secret. And then again why shouldnt he keep it secret if he's spent so much time and effort of his own to acquire it?
No wonder so many athletes and sportspersons go into sports nutrition/medicine etc to better understand their own bodies and limitations instead of relying on a coach who may have a hundred wards to look after.

Nowadays things are just getting harder and harder for athletes. They never know what may be lurking in that muscle spray or that inhaler. Food and water are not pure and can be spiked also.

Of course it's unfair to the athletes who are competing fairly but can never win a medal because of the cheats. Testing procedures need to be more fair and balanced and transparent IMO.
But overall we live in an unequal world with asymmetric information sources and must adhere to our own conscience at the end of the day.
Simone Biles won most of the medals in the 2016 Olympic gymnastics arena. RUssian hackers outed her as a drug cheat but was she banned or at least defrocked? No. Why? And why wasn't she tested properly?

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Posted: 6 years ago
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Moreover, only those substances which are currently known are put on the banned list by sporting authorities. However, we all know laboratories are always researching and coming up with latest drugs that are completely new and therefore not on the radar yet. They might get banned down the road, but till the time it is not, it will give an advantage to those athletes who have access to it, more specifically to athletes of that country where that substance has been developed. How is it fair that we enable cash rich countries and their athletes, who can afford expensive research to come up with a new PED, to take them and enhance their performance, but we don't allow athletes from poorer countries to have anything to do with older known PEDs. How is that a level playing field? That is more unfair in my opinion.

Yes that's true also. Some countries have a much more comprehensive programme for developing these kind of things. I would like to look at a history of how things like PEDs came into being and when were they first used clandestinely and subsequnetly discovered and put on the banned substances list. Past is the way forward here. I reiterated the same point too. Of course someone who really understands biochemistry may even come up with natural means like some tennis players do carb loading before a match. There is asymmetric information here too but somehow it doesnt strike as wrong to the conscience.

The other day there was an article in the paper about the new Indian coach for athletics, a celebrated woman of Russian nationality Galena Bukhayrina. All along I was wondering how come we won so many Asian Games athletics medals this time from a dismal run just 4 years previously. of course the coach must have had a hand in this and she's not even been here for 1 year I believe. And we all know about the dismal state of our infrastructure and even the diets of athletes. The human body is a wonder.


Coming to the point of natural. In our life as human beings, which aspect is completely natural nowadays. If I take the matter of nutrition, is whey protein, BCAA, vitamin tablets, iron/ calcium/ zinc etc. tablets, creatine, glucosamine, and so many other supplements, natural? Is it not unfair advantage then to reach optimum intake level of each mineral or substance necessary for peak performance, without having to consume whole foods.

About the above, yes, these are legal and all athletes know about them and use them. So you think that PEDs should also be legal so that everyone can use them? Yes, I guess that's one way of looking at it. If everyone uses it, then no one's at a disadvantage.
But how many elite athletes would be willing to use some of those substances the way people like Griffith Joyner did and lose their lives? ANyway it can be conducted as an experiment, people who're ready to push themselves to that edge? Why not?
Edited by nigahen - 6 years ago
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Posted: 6 years ago
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Originally posted by: souro

To say that taking performance enhancing drugs is cheating (or not cheating), first we need to define what is cheating. The simplest meaning of cheating is to gain advantage by unfair means. Do PEDs give an advantage, obviously. But is it unfair? I have my doubts about that.

The ban on PEDs is not absolute. Some countries make their sale more difficult than others, but they are available everywhere and are easily sourced. So, how is it unfair if it is available to everyone, everyone is free to take it and then out of them whoever is the best, wins.

Moreover, only those substances which are currently known are put on the banned list by sporting authorities. However, we all know laboratories are always researching and coming up with latest drugs that are completely new and therefore not on the radar yet. They might get banned down the road, but till the time it is not, it will give an advantage to those athletes who have access to it, more specifically to athletes of that country where that substance has been developed. How is it fair that we enable cash rich countries and their athletes, who can afford expensive research to come up with a new PED, to take them and enhance their performance, but we don't allow athletes from poorer countries to have anything to do with older known PEDs. How is that a level playing field? That is more unfair in my opinion.

Coming to the aspect of performance enhancing, is PED the only thing that enhances performance? Not so. Although it might be the easiest and cheapest way to enhance performance. Training infrastructure, equipment, proper nutrition, all such things also impact performance enhancement. But these things are expensive. It costs money to have a good training infrastructure for everyone in a country, from the grassroots to elite athletes. It costs money to do research and find out which training equipment or diet will produce the best results. and providing elite level nutrition for everyone will cost humongous amounts of money. Even if the latest training equipment is available on the market, or the best dietitians are available for hire, most of the chances are you'll have to spend large sum of money to get them from a developed country. Even best quality whey proteins, BCAA, and other such supplements are most of the times imported. How many countries can afford that or can give priority to such expenditures, especially for all the budding athletes and not just their elite athletes. Whereas, almost everyone can afford the old PEDs and it can be manufactured by any local pharma company. So, instead of helping to level the playing field, organisations like WADA are helping only the financially rich countries to have an advantage, by allowing those performance enhancing aspects which are costly, but disallowing the easily available and cheap performance enhancing substances.

Coming to the point of natural. In our life as human beings, which aspect is completely natural nowadays. If I take the matter of nutrition, is whey protein, BCAA, vitamin tablets, iron/ calcium/ zinc etc. tablets, creatine, glucosamine, and so many other supplements, natural? Is it not unfair advantage then to reach optimum intake level of each mineral or substance necessary for peak performance, without having to consume whole foods. If an athlete had to get all these through whole foods, they'd have to consume such enormous amount of food that they'd have a difficult time reaching that optimum level for every substance while at the same time maintaining a calorie intake that the body can metabolise and not put on fat. Then why this exception for PEDs? Testosterone is just that, testosterone, as natural as they come, produced by the body all the time. So is human growth hormone. And anabolic steroids just mimic testosterone and it's function, only multiple times more potent. So how is it that testosterone and HGH is considered unnatural but other supplements are natural. They are more natural than Gatorade.

Lastly, the other reason that is cited for this ban, adverse effects. Yes, PEDs have adverse side effects, especially in high doses. But then so does sports itself. Every elite athlete nowadays trains intensely all day, every day for maybe 20-25 years of their life. And we all are aware how much stress that causes on their body - their muscles, joints, bones, even brains because of concussions, and the sports related injuries that athletes suffer. Yet we encourage athletes to do exactly that, train for so many years, putting enormous stress on their body, suffering injuries, yet somehow the adverse effects of PEDs seems to be the only thing we have a problem with.

I really have no counter-argument and agree with everything you wrote lol.

But... I have some questions,

wouldn't the chemical composition of the blood change to contain higher levels of whatever enhances performance of the athlete?

Is there a difference in the levels of chemicals in the blood of a non-athlete healthy body and athlete?

Wouldn't using PEDs still retain an imbalance between athletes in poorer countries (as in access to all training quipments, food etc) vs. developed countries??



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