Porus 178: A face off and a finito

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Folks,

You would have escaped this one, for I had forsworn Porus after Tuesday's miserable goings on, and was going to leave you in peace.😉 But I finally ended up watching last night's episode 178, more to forget the goings on at the hospital than anything else ( I have been there for long spells for two day running now). And then of course I could not help commenting, even in brief, on it!😉

My observations:

- Mangling mythology: SidT and his CVs seem to be rather weak in mythology, not just Greek/Macedonian, but Hindu as well.

Poseidon is the Greek god of the sea, not of the earth, and his Roman equivalent is Neptune, just as Jupiter is the Roman equivalent of Zeus and Juno of his wife Hera.

And then our Trimurti do not always work together in perfect harmony, as was being made out. Lord Shiva cut off one of Lord Brahma's heads to tame his arrogance. He had 5 heads earlier, now he has only 4. Moreover, Mahadev is generally acknowledged to be the most powerful of the Trinity, though my Ayyangar (Vaishnavite) friends won't agree!😉 Vishnu and Brahma both fail to locate the beginning and the end of the glowing pillar of fire that is Mahadev, since He is anaadi evam anant, without beginning or end.

- Below expectations: As for the Grand Confrontation between Anusuya and Olympias, don't throw anything at poor me😉, but I expected it to be more fiery and to crackle with steely pride and aggressive oneupwomanship (sic).

As things turned out. I felt that both of them were simply reciting a set of predictable lines with, in Olympias' case, all the head movements to match. There was not a single sentence that was unusual, that would have made one sit up and rewind to listen to it again.

I did not feel that Anusuya was insulting Zeus, that was Chanakya earlier, with his sneering at Zeus'
jalal during the sanskaari apaharan (LuckySnow, that is a priceless expression!👏) But then he is a pretty harsh and arrogant person anyway, and he hates the Macedonians with a white hot hatred.

Anusuya is not like that. She is gentle and civilised, no matter what the situation Last night she was controlled and dignified throughout, and never lost her cool no matter what the provocation.

Olympias, however, with her unbending pride and her rock hard arrogance, is fully a match for Chanakya, and I suspect she will escape from Paurav Rashtra on her own, most likely, as suggested somewhere else here, with the aid of the Dasyu Rani. After all, the scenes shot in Dasyu Lok, featuring Olympias and Laachi, among others, are round the corner !😆

This apart, one can hardly imagine Olympias having to be rescued from any situation by anyone, even by her son! Her body language, and her flashing eyes, and her air of being totally in command even though she was in fact a prisoner, were the only watchable elements last night.

Less than impressive: I did not like the sight of Chanakya standing silently in the background, like a darwaan, while the two ladies indulged in their battle of wits. I cannot imagine the great Acharya, one of the greatest strategists and administrators in the history of Bharat, behaving like an ADC to the whole Paurav Rashtra royal family, and personally executing all this skulduggery, like the kidnapping of Olympias. The actor is undoubtedly very competent, but his Chanakya is beginning to look as flat as a pancake.

- Loss of bearings: It was odd to see Puru going to the wrong hut and not being able to place the inevitable sounds of the renewed fight between Alexander and Kanishka, in the other hut that was right next door. For a while, till they finally showed both the cottages side by side, I was totally at sea!

This apart, Puru in his Macedonian army uniform, almost half a foot taller than the standard Macedonian soldier, would have stood out like a sore thumb if he had encountered anyone from the Macedonian side. So it was as well that he did not!

- Loss of control: Alexander has clearly begun to lose his psychological bearings in his rage at having Chanakya fool him twice running, even though he had scored a neat hit of his own in between by trapping Chanakya.

If he was not so possessed by the need to get even with the foxy Aalim, why would he want to kill Kanishka himself, and so violently at that? And now, presumably after getting the news of the sanskaari apaharan, he is apparently rushing into an unplanned attack against Paurav Rashtra, which is exactly what Chanakya would have anticipated.

Finito: Rohit was excellent in depicting Alexander's near demented fury during the killing segment, but I am sure that scene was copied from one of the less nasty scenes in the Game of Thrones!

Not that Kanishka deserved any pity. His sudden volte face and expressions of remorse wrt his family were too little too late, and sounded like a desperate last bid to escape retribution.

It was odd to see Bamni calling out tenderly to the son who had personally ordered him, and Anusuya, killed in open court. If Kanishka had survived, be sure that Bamni and Anusuya, and thus, willy nilly, Puru as well, would have forgiven and rehabilitated him!😲

But Inlieu, they could not have assumed him to be innocent of the plot against Puru's life, for the informer clearly tells Puru enough to make it clear that Kanishka was collaborating with Alexander, and was being punished for failing in the task assigned to him.

- Slip up!: How come Alexander walks off , leaving his tohfa for Porus lying there on the floor of the hut, instead of having it safely stored in the Takshashila palace pending safe (this time) delivery? When his minions find that the (this time really) dead body is again gaayab, Alexander is going to burst a blood vessel for sure.😉

OK, I am going to sleep now. They have taken enough blood from me this morning at the hospital to make anyone feel faint!😉

I am sure I don't need to remind you about the Like button, do I? But only if you feel like it.

Shyamala Aunty/Di

PS: It was very odd to see Chanakya's shishyas decapitating Olympias' snakes during the sanskaari apaharan. If they were all immune to poison, there was no need for it, and then again, it was totally contrary to our traditonal ethos of high regard for the naags.

Actually, Chanakya seemed more to be showing off than anything else, and the duel with Olympias was the high point of this exercise.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I have only watched sameekhsas punjabi work before porus. She is indeed a charming lady ...I was wondering if real olympias had indeed come to India what would have really happened...knowing she was hundred times ruthless than Alexander...😳
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: sashashyam

Folks,

You would have escaped this one, for I had forsworn Porus after Tuesday's miserable goings on, and was going to leave you in peace.😉 But I finally ended up watching last night's episode 178, more to forget the goings on at the hospital than anything else ( I have been there for long spells for two day running now). And then of course I could not help commenting, even in brief, on it!😉

We are really lucky to get your precious views Aunty! Please don't leave this forum ever!

My observations:

- Mangling mythology: SidT and his CVs seem to be rather weak in mythology, not just Greek/Macedonian, but Hindu as well.

Also, a reason why that tula scene was badly conceived and they couldn't propagate what they might have envisioned. They are weak in showing Indian values.

Poseidon is the Greek god of the sea, not of the earth, and his Roman equivalent is Neptune, just as Jupiter is the Roman equivalent of Zeus and Juno of his wife Hera.

Valuable info.!

And then our Trimurti do not always work together in perfect harmony, as was being made out. Lord Shiva cut off one of Lord Brahma's heads to tame his arrogance. He had 5 heads earlier, now he has only 4. Moreover, Mahadev is generally acknowledged to be the most powerful of the Trinity, though my Ayyangar (Vaishnavite) friends won't agree!😉 Vishnu and Brahma both fail to locate the beginning and the end of the glowing pillar of fire that is Mahadev, since He is anaadi evam anant, without beginning or end.

I didn't know that he severed one head of Brahma! 😆

- Below expectations: As for the Grand Confrontation between Anusuya and Olympias, don't throw anything at poor me😉, but I expected it to be more fiery and to crackle with steely pride and aggressive oneupwomanship (sic).

As things turned out. I felt that both of them were simply reciting a set of predictable lines with, in Olympias' case, all the head movements to match. There was not a single sentence that was unusual, that would have made one sit up and rewind to listen to it again.

I did not feel that Anusuya was insulting Zeus, that was Chanakya earlier, with his sneering at Zeus'
jalal during the sanskaari apaharan (LuckySnow, that is a priceless expression!👏) But then he is a pretty harsh and arrogant person anyway, and he hates the Macedonians with a white hot hatred.

Anusuya is not like that. She is gentle and civilised, no matter what the situation Last night she was controlled and dignified throughout, and never lost her cool no matter what the provocation.

Their conversation was boring but Olympias was savage with her unchanged fiery attitude!! ⭐️

Olympias, however, with her unbending pride and her rock hard arrogance, is fully a match for Chanakya, and I suspect she will escape from Paurav Rashtra on her own, most likely, as suggested somewhere else here, with the aid of the Dasyu Rani. After all, the scenes shot in Dasyu Lok, featuring Olympias and Laachi, among others, are round the corner !😆

Yes! I suggested this one on LuckySnow's thread! It would be a treat to watch Olympias making her way out of this situation like her son did! After all, she is not a traditional mother who would wait for her son like, 'mera Alexander ayega!' 😆 Chanakya once brought in Alexander who very cleverly wins at the situation and now it would be Olympias! 😆 I wonder when is he going to leave for Magadha! I hope we don't see him fighting in the battle alongside his Shishyas! 🤢

This apart, one can hardly imagine Olympias having to be rescued from any situation by anyone, even by her son! Her body language, and her flashing eyes, and her air of being totally in command even though she was in fact a prisoner, were the only watchable elements last night.

Just as flamboyant as Alexander when he turned the situation to his favour!

Less than impressive: I did not like the sight of Chanakya standing silently in the background, like a darwaan, while the two ladies indulged in their battle of wits. I cannot imagine the great Acharya, one of the greatest strategists and administrators in the history of Bharat, behaving like an ADC to the whole Paurav Rashtra royal family, and personally executing all this skulduggery, like the kidnapping of Olympias. The actor is undoubtedly very competent, but his Chanakya is beginning to look as flat as a pancake.

I was surprised when Anusuya didn't even ask him where he had been all this while as he was missing along with Barsine.

Anyways, I want him to be out of this show now!

- Loss of bearings: It was odd to see Puru going to the wrong hut and not being able to place the inevitable sounds of the renewed fight between Alexander and Kanishka, in the other hut that was right next door. For a while, till they finally showed both the cottages side by side, I was totally at sea!

This apart, Puru in his Macedonian army uniform, almost half a foot taller than the standard Macedonian soldier, would have stood out like a sore thumb if he had encountered anyone from the Macedonian side. So it was as well that he did not!

It was a deliberate attempt by the CVs that somehow Puru doesn't find Kanishk before he dies because given his nature, he wouldn't have hid himself to watch how Alexander kills his brother. 😆 He would have to be shown jumping into a duel with Alexander which CVs would never allow without adding the emotional Rakhi angle and Puru losing deliberately!

- Loss of control: Alexander has clearly begun to lose his psychological bearings in his rage at having Chanakya fool him twice running, even though he had scored a neat hit of his own in between by trapping Chanakya.

If he was not so possessed by the need to get even with the foxy Aalim, why would he want to kill Kanishka himself, and so violently at that? And now, presumably after getting the news of the sanskaari apaharan, he is apparently rushing into an unplanned attack against Paurav Rashtra, which is exactly what Chanakya would have anticipated.

Right! Alexander was too much violent and rageful last night! But attacking this soon would look weird as there are many things left to deal with. The conflict of Dasyulok and PR is yet to reach a conclusion and Olympias will also do something.

Finito: Rohit was excellent in depicting Alexander's near demented fury during the killing segment, but I am sure that scene was copied from one of the less nasty scenes in the Game of Thrones!

Rohit is always brilliant! 👏

Not that Kanishka deserved any pity. His sudden volte face and expressions of remorse wrt his family were too little too late, and sounded like a desperate last bid to escape retribution.

It was odd to see Bamni calling out tenderly to the son who had personally ordered him, and Anusuya, killed in open court. If Kanishka had survived, be sure that Bamni and Anusuya, and thus, willy nilly, Puru as well, would have forgiven and rehabilitated him!😲

Poor Kanishk had to endure the anger which was actually meant for Chanakya. I agree! Kanishk would have got his position restored had he survived! 😆

But Inlieu, they could not have assumed him to be innocent of the plot against Puru's life, for the informer clearly tells Puru enough to make it clear that Kanishka was collaborating with Alexander, and was being punished for failing in the task assigned to him.

So again, it would have been an emotional dilemma for Bamni and he might have given a chance to him again as Kanishk was quite reformed and somewhat regretful of his betrayal.

- Slip up!: How come Alexander walks off , leaving his tohfa for Porus lying there on the floor of the hut, instead of having it safely stored in the Takshashila palace pending safe (this time) delivery? When his minions find that the (this time really) dead body is again gaayab, Alexander is going to burst a blood vessel for sure.😉

OMG!! 🤣 Alexander would surely think that Indians don't die at all no matter what you do to them.. drown them, bake them or cut them! 😆 Hope he doesn't kill Ambiraj to check whether he dies or not! 🤣

OK, I am going to sleep now. They have taken enough blood from me this morning at the hospital to make anyone feel faint!😉
Do take care of yourself!! 😳

I am sure I don't need to remind you about the Like button, do I? But only if you feel like it.

Shyamala Aunty/Di

PS: It was very odd to see Chanakya's shishyas decapitating Olympias' snakes during the sanskaari apaharan. If they were all immune to poison, there was no need for it, and then again, it was totally contrary to our traditonal ethos of high regard for the naags.

Actually, Chanakya seemed more to be showing off than anything else, and the duel with Olympias was the high point of this exercise.

That is why, I fear that we may get a dreadful sight of him swinging swords in both his hands while riding a horse in the war! 😕

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Dear Aunty,

First of all, I'm glad that you watched the episode and are still writing on the forum despite your health issues. We wish you a quick recovery!

About mythology or history, let's not even get started on the CVs' level of diligence in terms of getting facts right! Chanakya's students killed off the snakes despite being immune to their poison. That was not necessary but I think it was to highlight the point that the snakes were no match and that Olympias would be rendered weaponless. Not that she needs any when equipped with that sharp tongue of hers. 😉

Anusuya did not seem too surprised to see Chanakya bringing Olympias in. Was she in on the plan, or has she now become accustomed to Chanakya kidnapping people and bringing them in to PR?

The Anusuya and Olympias face-off may have been underwhelming but my head was spinning too much to notice. On second viewing I would tend to agree with you. Anusuya didn't lose her cool and Olympias didn't stop showing her pride. She was not worried for her own safety and didn't even break out into a sweat throughout. Very brave woman and indeed a match for Chanakya. I can't wait for him to be stumped by her next play. 😆

Sameksha was mind-blowing yesterday and I would much prefer her Olympias rescue herself instead of Alexander having to bail her out. She's his mother and a lioness herself after all!

Bamni's an emotional person - he can't change who he is. His son had done wrong but it was still his son who had received a sentence of life imprisonment but at least he was alive. Seeing him killed this way by Alexander got to the father in him, and seeing Bamni like that seemed to affect Porus. I still can't figure out why the CVs had Porus go to Taxila. What was the point of showing them go there only to find Kanishk dead in a hut? Are they going to discover something else to help defend Anusuya or are they going to set off another dhamaka and then escape? I would have much preferred Alexander send the body off to Porus in PR as a gift.

Alexander's shaatir demaag needs to be turned back on, the cold and calculating side that can wreak havoc with mind games. It's interesting that he possesses the ability to destroy his enemies in cold or hot rage and can use both these states to go forward. I really really hope that he won't attack PR as a rash move, and that he's going to think of something else, or will be stopped by Hephaestion or Roxanne (though I'm not sure how they can get through to him or his wrath).

The Pauravengers might have done something in Taxila after discovering Kanishk's body and this is what Alexander wants to counter, having understood that they'd paid Taxila a visit. I don't know if he'd be surprised about disappearing bodies anymore. 😆 He must know that they'd come searching for it at some point. Also, I feel it's too soon for him to find out that Olympias has been kidnapped. As far as he's concerned she's out performing rituals.

I think the violent killing was a combination of his anger due to being outwitted by Chanakya, his will to still find a way to hurt Porus despite the setback, his anger at his own blood being spilt, and his retaliation to Kanishk's boasting about being a PR royal and the son of Bamni, brother of Porus blah blah blah that set Alexander off. I too felt that Kanishk's remorse was too little too late and he would have been "forgiven" in due time as the PR family is wont to do and as Olympias said is the mistake they make by letting enemies go (for Kanishk had become an enemy of the state).

Rohit's expressions throughout were fabulous to watch. He was really hot!
I only wish they hadn't darkened the scenes so much that I could barely make out what was going on, until the hut scene.


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Originally posted by: luckySnow

I have only watched sameekhsas punjabi work before porus. She is indeed a charming lady ...I was wondering if real olympias had indeed come to India what would have really happened...knowing she was hundred times ruthless than Alexander...😳


Alexander would have conquered the whole of Bharat if she had come along. 😆
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@Vaishnavi, Olympias said "mera beta Alexander aayega" or something like that today, right?
Ouf! These CVs are big fans of Raakhi/Karan Arjun. I hope she meant that would be in retaliation for daring to kidnap her and not in order to save her. I still want her to find a way out herself, and it looks like the Dasyus may not be averse to sheltering her, because they are furious!

Alexander didn't even check Kanishk's pulse before leaving him in the hut, but he was very confident that he wouldn't survive. 😆 The real reason was that Kanishk had to have some emotional dialogues and ask Bamni for forgiveness, and also that he confesses the truth that will in turn cause more problems between PR and Dasyus. 😉

Testing it out on Ambhiraj? 🤣

Chanakya on horseback swinging two swords? 😆 What would happen to his favorite staff? Next thing you know he's going to be doing kung fu on horseback and flying around. I don't trust the CVs.
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