Porus 173-175: A great escape, a demolition job & flawed justice

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Folks,

For me, the best part about these episodes came in the precap on Friday, when Hephaestion barges in and informs the shocked and dismayed Alexander : Paurav Rashtra jaate waqt, Chanakya ki laash gayab ho gayee! It was a truly 🤣moment, and I duly chortled with glee.

In fact, I had been expecting another version of this moment earlier, for I thought that Chanakya might emege from the bull looking like a nicely baked potato, with nary a burn mark on his body, and speculated that Alexander ka chehra tab dekhne laayak hoga!😆 But that was an illogical guess of mine, for in that case, Alexander would simply have killed him by more conventional methods. So he had to appear to be really dead, and that is what happened.

This latest twist, however, is the real McCoy, and Chanakya, as pfalcon1949 wrote elsewhere here, has done a Houdini and simply vanished. That too when, by his great good luck, Alexander was actually dispatching him special delivery to Paurav Rashtra, for Porus' edification. Neat, no?😉😉

Not that I ever thought that Chanakya would have died. Not even the GoT enthusiast Mr. Tewary could have carried his passion for remixing history quite so far. As I had written on the episode 173 thread, I agreed with Inlieu's guess that the mud coating would (in defiance of the laws of physics and of the thermal properties of materials, in this case the human skin, but when have such minor issues bothered our CVs?😉) protect him from the scorching heat.

This is exactly what has happened. I had assumed that he would recover consciousness in Paurav Rashtra, but this is even better. His shishyas must have overturned the boat carrying his supposed corpse, and while the Macedonians were struggling in the current of the Jhelum, made off with Chanakya's not-at-all-dead body!!!

Silent subversion: By the Takshashila Rajvaid, that is. When he started taking the pulse of Chanakya's body, he looked very startled at the beginning, and then recovered himself and lied that life was extinct. Alexander could not see his expression as the Rajvaid had his back to Alexander, otherwise he would have spotted the hesitation in an instant. Aur phir Rajvaid aur Chanakya ki to khair nahin!

The Rajvaid's silent subversion - he is clearly no Ambhiraj loyalist - is one in the eye for Sony Alexander and his pronouncements about the deterrent effects of khauff. Fear works only up to a point, and even there, the oppressed soon start opting for subversive tactics that then spread.

The real Alexander was able to rule so smoothly in Egypt and Persia precisely because he did not resort to khauff to control the local populace, and mostly let them carry on as they had always been doing, and retained most of the old local officials.

Mind over body: Vaishnavi asked me a most interesting question, as whether it was at all possible for anyone to survive such brutal heat with only a mud coating for protection.

Now, I don't know about anyone surviving a baking in this fashion, but I have personally seen perfectly ordinary folk, not yoga masters, walk across a bed of burning coals and emerge from that ordeal without a single scorch mark on the soles of their feet . These fire walking ceremonies are common in Tamil Nadu - I am Tamil - and among the Tamil community in Malaysia.

If such untrained persons can, through the sheer power of their faith, do this by making their mind prevail over their body, a trained master yogi should be able to neutralize the effects of even extreme and prolonged heating.

The opposite is also possible. When a hypnotist has you under his hypnotic influence, lays a cold needle on your arm, and tells you that the needle is red hot, the skin will be scorched and there will be a burn mark there. This has been repeatedly demonstrated through experiments.

This said, there was something very odd about the awful screaming. In fact, I didn't expect Chanakya to scream at all.

A master yogi, as I noted above, would have been able to control the reaction of his body to the heat, and so he would not have felt the pain and would not have screamed. However, I have never heard that Chanakya was a great yoga master with such special powers. Whence the screams. It was really spine chilling.

As for his surviving, it must have been just the mud pack. But the mystery of what purpose the potli of extra mud served remains, as of the eventual use of the shawl that Alexander returned to Chanakya. Maybe that was converted by Chanakya into the bag for the mud, though this was not at all clear.

The demolition job: To describe what I felt when the iron bull came into view on the river bank of the Jhelum, I can do no better than repeat what I wrote then, in shock and disgust, on LuckySnow's thread for Episode 172.

I have always said that Olympias is a monster.What she wanted to do to that poor man inside the iron bull was the worst kind of deliberate savagery.

But Sony Alexander was not the same. Not even when he had the Thracian king dragged to his death, though that was awful enough. Or so I believed.

Now the CVs have finally completed the demolition job on Sony Alexander about which I had lamented right from the time when I wrote my first post here in end March last.

He is now well and truly a monster like his mother😡. A sadistic brute who looks forward to hearing the screams of a man being roasted alive. And if he is doing it to please his mother, why, it truly makes them one of a kind.

They have finished Sony Alexander off good and proper. He will never recover from this.

Setting my teeth on edge with his endless babbling of being Zeus ka beta, aaj ka khuda is one thing. Such horrible sadism is quite another. It made me feel sick. 🤢

Since then , I have found no reason to modify my initial reaction. It has been noted elsewhere that when Chanakya's awful screams were being heard. Roxanne smiled. I was not surprised. So did Olympias smile at the end. She is Monster No.1 and Roxanne is Monster No. 2.

Alexander looked petrified for a moment before he lit the fire - so much so that I thought he was going to have a change of heart and abandon the whole thing - and he never smiled. Small mercies.

However, the whole shebang, with the trio of Alexander, Olympias and Roxanne sitting there as if they were at a theatre performance, to watch a man being roasted to death was horrible and disgusting. 😡😡😡

Yes, Alexander would have been fully justified in killing Chanakya, for after all Chanakya had tried to get him killed by deceit. But there was NO need for this ugly display of sadism. I suppose yeh sab Siddharth Tewary ke Games of Thrones ke addiction ka nateeja hai.😡

Rohit's conscientiousness: In all this, I must not forget to give praise where praise is due. Rohit Purohit, saddled with a lousy script that is clearly bent on turning Alexander the Great into a commonplace snarling, scheming, violent, sadistic villain, still sticks to his job manfully and performs superbly, however little his heart might be in it.

His Alexander - his face narrower and sharper than ever, his eyes cold and steely at one time and aflame with anger in another, once voicing his conviction in the power of khauff for keeping a people in submissive subjection, and at another time expressing genuine regret at the need for him to destroy Chanakya in such a horrible manner - is utterly and totally convincing.

One can hate this Sony Alexander, but one has to unreservedly applaud Rohit's dedication, his conscientiousness, and his superb skills as an actor.

Some light relief: One cannot wallow in horror for too long, so here are some entertaining sidelights from this track.

One, it was sheer pleasure watching the faces of Olympias, Hephaestion, and Alexander (Cleitus stuck to his familiar lamp post act 😆 ) while Chanakya was pampering himself with a prolonged mud pack routine. Their attempts to explain his proceedings reminded me of nothing so much as the three blind men trying to describe an elephant. 😆

And does Alexander have to light the fire under the bull himself? What about the prestige of Zeus ka beta, aaj ka khuda?

Two, Alexander's expression of regret at not having had Chanakya on his side was not only heartfelt, but the only truly sensible thing he has said this week. In fact I noted that Alexander has now given Chanakya the formal title of Sansaar ke sabse bade Aalim. Aristotle, if he had got to know of this, would not have been pleased!😉

When he lit the fire under the bull, I felt that what Alexander regretted was not only the loss of such a tremendous intellect at his side, but also, objectively, the loss to the world of someone of such unshakable stoicism and courage even in the face of such a terrible death.

Alexander + Chanakya? : Finally, along with Inlieu and others, I did ruminate about what an Alexander-Chanakya combo would have been like. I think it was in my post about the Great Confrontation between Chanakya and Puru. It sounds splendid, and of course they would, together, have been unbeatable. However, I doubt if it would have lasted, for both of them were unbending autocrats, who would have been at loggerheads very soon!😉

Wife and mother: Now for Part 3 of this post, the one about flawed justice. But before I get to that, I must mention another segment that impressed me considerably. This was the back to back sequence of two conversations in Episode 173, the Laachi- Puru one and then the Anusuya-Puru one (he comes after the ladies both times as he was mostly an object here, not a subject).

Both scenes were surprisingly good. Especially the former, where Laachi displayed impeccable dignity combined with steely resolve. I have always liked the girl, but here she really impressed me with the smooth, non-confrontational, and yet extremely determined technique she used to put Puru right in the firing line. The success of a demarche depends to a large extent on the exit line, and Laachi's was perfect.👏

Anusuya too was excellent, firm and lucid in her statements, and always putting principles first. But that is nothing new where she is concerned!

Flawed justice: I am sure that after having held their breaths overnight in tension about what would happen to Anusuya, many here would have heaved a sigh of relief at the end of the precap on Friday, and rejoiced over the 7 day reprieve extended to Anusuya by Laachi. They would also have praised Maharaja Purushottam lavishly for what they perceive as his Solomonic justice.

I am happy that they, and especially Surbhi, are so happy. Bu this apart, there were things that Puru did last night that left me bemused and disturbed.

Here, I am not going into the rights and wrongs of what Laachi and Anusuya did or didn't do, for that would keep me here till tomorrow, and you would all have run away! 😆I am confining myself to my views of what Puru did on Friday.

First and most important, the whole basis on which Puru conducts the proceedings is wrong. According to the fundamental principles of universal jurisprudence , it is NOT for Anusuya, the accused in these proceedings, to prove herself innocent. It is for the State, in this case Maharaja Purushottam, to prove her guilty.

So what Maharaja Purushottam should have done was to launch a detailed enquiry into the possibility which he (really cleverly) flags to Laachi, viz that Sumer might be guilty. There was no need, no matter what Laachi said, for him to box himself into pronouncing a judgement that very day. It is a very serious matter, not one of deciding whether to buy tomatoes or brinjals at the market, and it should not have been hustled in this manner at all. 😲

Besides this unnecessary rush to judgement, there were other major acts of comission and omission by Puru that need to be flagged.

Three elements : Let us take the three elements in the charges against Anusuya.

One, that she had taken the law into her own hands - a point that I had raised earlier in this forum - and not only attacked Sumer but killed him outright instead of wounding him. Puru has neatly nullified this charge, by demonstrating that in a crisis situation, such things happen.

The manner in which he did this was patently contrived and dicey, for what if the Dasyuraj (who has come to life now all of a sudden and become surprisingly vocal and assertive!😉) had not flared up like that? But such cinematic liberties are permissible, so let us overlook that.

Two, that Anusuya has not been able to provide proof of Sumer's treason. Puru negates this one too by stating that the absence of proof of guilt is NOT automatically proof of innocence. So far so good.

The third charge is that she wrongly assumed Sumer's guilt based on her own interpretation of his actions. This can be negated only by getting the evidence to settle the issue one way or the other.

Here is where Maharaja Purushottam stumbles. He does not state the obvious, that it is HIS job as king to get this enquiry done.

Instead, through the odd decision to leave the judgement - BOTH of Anusuya's culpability and of her consequent punishment - to Laachi, who is the accuser, and hence automatically biased against the accused Anusuya, he in effect abdicates his responsibility as the king to secure justice for the accused.

Now it is left to Anusuya to prove herself innocent, which is a travesty of the fundamental principle of jurisprudence, that is for the State to prove that the accused is guilty.

And that too within such a short time frame for a matter of life and death, for if Anusuya is found guilty, the sentence might well be a capital one ?😲

How, and more important, WHY is Anusuya expected to get this proof with a 7 day deadline, when it is actually Puru's task as the king to do that, of course in an impartial manner? 😲

Secondly, if he wants to avoid any appearance of his being partial towards either his mother or his wife, he should have appointed an impartial, unconcerned outsider as the judge. NOT Laachi.

How can she, the accuser, be trusted to be an impartial judge? And how would any judgement she gives look impartial, and be accepted as such? It is most unconvincing.

So now Maharaja Purushottam has, instead of discharging the responsibility which is his, and his alone, delegated it to the one person to whom he should NOT have delegated it.

What is more, his decision is also unfair to Laachi. She has now been put at the foot of the wall, and saddled with this unexpected responsibility which should never have come to her. She is in a very sticky situation, for any decision she takes will be seen as biased one way or the other.

It is all ludicrous. More to the point, it is downright dangerous, for it exposes Anusuya to risks she should never have had to face. As far as Maharaja Purushottam's notions of kingship go, it was all decidedly disheartening.

OK,folks, this is it. You have all had a 12 episode break from me, and seeing the chaotic way in which things are going in our show, the next break is likely to be as long, if not longer. So relax, and if you liked this one, please do not forget to hit the Like button.

Shyamala Aunty/Di


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Posted: 7 years ago
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Brilliant as always😊 Aunty g
However, Chankya wasn't any mahayogi...he was a simple brahamin with a brilliant brain. He wasn't doodh ka dhula hua insaan and used many immoral ways to destroy his enemies...😊 by immoral ways I mean the ways which we will say are wrong but they were need of that hour...TV Chankya is different from real chankya

Now CVS has two characters Alexander and porus. About Alexander we know everything about and about porus we don't have much information. CVS tries to make them equal but that isn't possible knowing the achievements of alexander so they try to make him villain. still Alexander aura won't let him become complete villqin evennn after roasting chankya😆l

Onthe contrary porus has become one dimensional character himself

About olympias being monster well she is heroine in her country. She killed her enemies mercilessly because they would have killed her and her children mercilessly. Though killing of baby wasn't required by her...but all others deserved her wrath

Roxane only smiled and she is a monster😲 I dont thinkk so..

About pr dramaa I don't want to say anything...
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Thank you so much, my dear. You are always there to keep my morale up! I don't do much of this kind of stuff these days, but when one does exert oneself to post an analysis, one needs readers like you.

I never said that Chanakya was a mahayogi. Please read that part again. In fact I have said that I have never heard that he was a trained yoga master with any special powers. I agree completely with your description of him. He was what the country needed then, and he delivered 111%.

About Alexander, we are now talking only of the Sony one. They are degrading him far more than is necessary. I agree that the memory of his presiding over the roasting of Chanakya in that bull will fade with time, but you should not underestimate the revulsion it created in people like me. It did not shock you, since you are a boy, but it did shock me, and it will be tough to get over it easily.

I would have liked you to think about the Paurav Rashtra segment on Friday and tell me if and how far you agree with my views on it. Don 't skip over it. My take on it is substantially different from the general one because the logic of the matter is not being taken into account. I would like to know what you feel about it all.

As for Olympias, you are talking of the real one. I am talking of the Sony one. No one can hold human life and suffering so cheap as the Sony one does, and not be a monster. About Roxanne, I was not so serious, but how can a woman, who was berating Alexander not so long ago for being a beraham qatil, smile when a tortured man screams in agony? What does that make her?

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: luckySnow

Brilliant as always😊 Aunty g

However, Chankya wasn't any mahayogi...he was a simple brahamin with a brilliant brain. He wasn't doodh ka dhula hua insaan and used many immoral ways to destroy his enemies...😊 by immoral ways I mean the ways which we will say are wrong but they were need of that hour...TV Chankya is different from real chankya

Now CVS has two characters Alexander and porus. About Alexander we know everything about and about porus we don't have much information. CVS tries to make them equal but that isn't possible knowing the achievements of alexander so they try to make him villain. still Alexander aura won't let him become complete villqin evennn after roasting chankya😆l

Onthe contrary porus has become one dimensional character himself

About olympias being monster well she is heroine in her country. She killed her enemies mercilessly because they would have killed her and her children mercilessly. Though killing of baby wasn't required by her...but all others deserved her wrath

Roxane only smiled and she is a monster😲 I dont thinkk so..

About pr dramaa I don't want to say anything...

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Aunty g Puru and his sense of judgement is too complex for a simple person like me to understand. In one moment he was with his mother the other moment he was literally punishing her. Also he said he can be accused of being biased because heciscson and husband...but isn't lalchi also sister!!! And she is to give Saja...
Ok yes regarding Sony olympias , she is a monster no doubt... Alexander still can't be called a monster. For it was Chankya who began all this...

To be honest I found the baking scene a bit comical😆
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Hello Aunty! I have added my comments in Red. I am quite pissed off with the current track and its slow advance! 😡 Anusuya has a week now! Pata nahin kya hoga! 😕 The post was awesome!! 👏

Originally posted by: sashashyam

Folks,

For me, the best part about these episodes came in the precap on Friday, when Hephaestion barges in and informs the shocked and dismayed Alexander : Paurav Rashtra jaate waqt, Chanakya ki laash gayab ho gayee! It was a truly 🤣moment, and I duly chortled with glee.

In fact, I had been expecting another version of this moment earlier, for I thought that Chanakya might emege from the bull looking like a nicely baked potato, with nary a burn mark on his body, and speculated that Alexander ka chehra tab dekhne laayak hoga!😆 But that was an illogical guess of mine, for in that case, Alexander would simply have killed him by more conventional methods. So he had to appear to be really dead, and that is what happened.

😆😆After watching Wednesday's episode, since we all knew that Chanakya won't die, even I was awaiting a moment when Alexander will actually come to know that Chanakya has escaped/is alive and all his efforts for procuring the bull from Macedonia and the proclamation of performing a stage show of his death went in vain! And how is he going to repent his decision of not listening to his mother when she asked him to finish off Chanakya right there in the lock-up itself! 😆

What would Alexander think of his experience in India uptil this point of time? That Indians are immortals?!😆 Firstly, he thought Puru is dead and then he was shocked to see him hale and hearty in PR and now he will get another shock of his life when he will see Chanakya alive! I know this scene is definitely going to be there where Chanakya will again taunt and irritate him another ill-pronounced Sanskrit verse! 😆

I don't think Chanakya is deliberately showing himself unconscious.. it is a matter of pure luck for Sony Chanakya that he is still alive.😉

This latest twist, however, is the real McCoy, and Chanakya, as pfalcon1949 wrote elsewhere here, has done a Houdini and simply vanished. That too when, by his great good luck, Alexander was actually dispatching him special delivery to Paurav Rashtra, for Porus' edification. Neat, no?😉😉

Free delivery to PR and that too with Z plus security! 😆😆

I wonder how he managed to escape! Maybe the people who came as delivery guys threw the Macedonian guards into Jhelum and took away Chanakya with them! 😊

I think Alexander will personally search for his dead body in Jhelum and that was why he shot in swimming pool in black robes a few days back!😉

Not that I ever thought that Chanakya would have died. Not even the GoT enthusiast Mr. Tewary could have carried his passion for remixing history quite so far. As I had written on the episode 173 thread, I agreed with Inlieu's guess that the mud coating would (in defiance of the laws of physics and of the thermal properties of materials, in this case the human skin, but when have such minor issues bothered our CVs?😉) protect him from the scorching heat.

But what was the use of the potli of mud?

This is exactly what has happened. I had assumed that he would recover consciousness in Paurav Rashtra, but this is even better. His shishyas must have overturned the boat carrying his supposed corpse, and while the Macedonians were struggling in the current of the Jhelum, made off with Chanakya's not-at-all-dead body!!!

Thedelivery guys are surely his undercover Shishyas! 😊

Silent subversion: By the Takshashila Rajvaid, that is. When he started taking the pulse of Chanakya's body, he looked very startled at the beginning, and then recovered himself and lied that life was extinct. Alexander could not see his expression as the Rajvaid had his back to Alexander, otherwise he would have spotted the hesitation in an instant. Aur phir Rajvaid aur Chanakya ki to khair nahin!

RIGHT! 😆

The Rajvaid's silent subversion - he is clearly no Ambhiraj loyalist - is one in the eye for Sony Alexander and his pronouncements about the deterrent effects of khauff. Fear works only up to a point, and even there, the oppressed soon start opting for subversive tactics that then spread.

Maybe Alexander will kill him when he comes to know that Chanakya is still alive and the Rajvaid will resort to the reasoning that he was doing his job and his job is to save people!

The real Alexander was able to rule so smoothly in Egypt and Persia precisely because he did not resort to khauff to control the local populace, and mostly let them carry on as they had always been doing, and retained most of the old local officials.

But here the CVs showed him instilling his khauff in Persian awaam when his soldiers attacked the Persian city and Alexander later on lectured them to support him for the success and development of the Persian empire! Thus, indirectly conveying the message to the general public that if required he can actually order his troops to open arms at the public if they tried to defy him! 😡

Mind over body: Vaishnavi asked me a most interesting question, as whether it was at all possible for anyone to survive such brutal heat with only a mud coating for protection.

Now, I don't know about anyone surviving a baking in this fashion, but I have personally seen perfectly ordinary folk, not yoga masters, walk across a bed of burning coals and emerge from that ordeal without a single scorch mark on the soles of their feet . These fire walking ceremonies are common in Tamil Nadu - I am Tamil - and among the Tamil community in Malaysia.

If such untrained persons can, through the sheer power of their faith, do this by making their mind prevail over their body, a trained master yogi should be able to neutralize the effects of even extreme and prolonged heating.

The opposite is also possible. When a hypnotist has you under his hypnotic influence, lays a cold needle on your arm, and tells you that the needle is red hot, the skin will be scorched and there will be a burn mark there. This has been repeatedly demonstrated through experiments.

This said, there was something very odd about the awful screaming. In fact, I didn't expect Chanakya to scream at all.

A master yogi, as I noted above, would have been able to control the reaction of his body to the heat, and so he would not have felt the pain and would not have screamed. However, I have never heard that Chanakya was a great yoga master with such special powers. Whence the screams. It was really spine chilling.

As for his surviving, it must have been just the mud pack. But the mystery of what purpose the potli of extra mud served remains, as of the eventual use of the shawl that Alexander returned to Chanakya. Maybe that was converted by Chanakya into the bag for the mud, though this was not at all clear.

Thank you Aunty for taking effort for my curiousness! This one is really an intriguing piece of information and I need to research more on this! The potli looked more like a plastic bag than a shawl! 😆 But Alexander didn't use that shawl to cover Chanakya's body even though he said it would be used as his kafan! So, that potli and shawl are a mystery right now! I also didn't make out what Chanakya meant by the words he uttered while gifting him that shawl.. and as far as my thinking goes.. even Alexander couldn't decipher what he preached! 😆

The demolition job: To describe what I felt when the iron bull came into view on the river bank of the Jhelum, I can do no better than repeat what I wrote then, in shock and disgust, on LuckySnow's thread for Episode 172.

I have always said that Olympias is a monster.What she wanted to do to that poor man inside the iron bull was the worst kind of deliberate savagery.

But Sony Alexander was not the same. Not even when he had the Thracian king dragged to his death, though that was awful enough. Or so I believed.

Now the CVs have finally completed the demolition job on Sony Alexander about which I had lamented right from the time when I wrote my first post here in end March last.

He is now well and truly a monster like his mother😡. A sadistic brute who looks forward to hearing the screams of a man being roasted alive. And if he is doing it to please his mother, why, it truly makes them one of a kind.

They have finished Sony Alexander off good and proper. He will never recover from this.

Setting my teeth on edge with his endless babbling of being Zeus ka beta, aaj ka khuda is one thing. Such horrible sadism is quite another. It made me feel sick. 🤢

Since then , I have found no reason to modify my initial reaction. It has been noted elsewhere that when Chanakya's awful screams were being heard. Roxanne smiled. I was not surprised. So did Olympias smile at the end. She is Monster No.1 and Roxanne is Monster No. 2.

Alexander looked petrified for a moment before he lit the fire - so much so that I thought he was going to have a change of heart and abandon the whole thing - and he never smiled. Small mercies.

Even I noticed his one moment long hesitation and horror

However, the whole shebang, with the trio of Alexander, Olympias and Roxanne sitting there as if they were at a theatre performance, to watch a man being roasted to death was horrible and disgusting. 😡😡😡

Yes, Alexander would have been fully justified in killing Chanakya, for after all Chanakya had tried to get him killed by deceit. But there was NO need for this ugly display of sadism. I suppose yeh sab Siddharth Tewary ke Games of Thrones ke addiction ka nateeja hai.😡

I also got quite uncomfortable when I heard those screams! 😕

Rohit's conscientiousness: In all this, I must not forget to give praise where praise is due. Rohit Purohit, saddled with a lousy script that is clearly bent on turning Alexander the Great into a commonplace snarling, scheming, violent, sadistic villain, still sticks to his job manfully and performs superbly, however little his heart might be in it.

Rohit is commendable! 👏

His Alexander - his face narrower and sharper than ever, his eyes cold and steely at one time and aflame with anger in another, once voicing his conviction in the power of khauff for keeping a people in submissive subjection, and at another time expressing genuine regret at the need for him to destroy Chanakya in such a horrible manner - is utterly and totally convincing.

He gets into the soul of Alexander the Great when he is giving his scenes and completely forgets his real identity for those few minutes and that is the reason for his top notch performance! His subtle expressions and conveyance of complex human emotions just through his eyes are a proof of his immense dedication towards his craft! He clearly does not bother putting in this extra effort in his performances even though he knows the fact that no one among the viewers really notices or appreciates these nuances of quality acting as our TV audiences are still stuck on drooling over unnecessary dramas and loving the bechaare characters who are always on the verge of shedding tears 😆 that they don't have the time and the mindset to understand these things!😡 No wonder Saas-Bahu's never ending sagas are always high on TRP charts! There have been accusations on Sony Alexander that his increased screen time during the Persia track caused Porus to lose TRP! I won't argue on this due to the above cited reason! Ardent daily soap viewers love dramas and tears so how can they tolerate our fiery and triumphant Alexander!😉

But I really really feel bad for Rohit! He deserves better!

One can hate this Sony Alexander, but one has to unreservedly applaud Rohit's dedication, his conscientiousness, and his superb skills as an actor.

I can't hate him even now! 😆

Some light relief: One cannot wallow in horror for too long, so here are some entertaining sidelights from this track.

One, it was sheer pleasure watching the faces of Olympias, Hephaestion, and Alexander (Cleitus stuck to his familiar lamp post act 😆 ) while Chanakya was pampering himself with a prolonged mud pack routine. Their attempts to explain his proceedings reminded me of nothing so much as the three blind men trying to describe an elephant. 😆

And does Alexander have to light the fire under the bull himself? What about the prestige of Zeus ka beta, aaj ka khuda?

I loved it when Olympias and Alexander looked at each other in sheer amusement when Chanakya started rubbing the mud on his face! '😆😆 When Alexander stood to light up the fire underneath the bull, it looked like he was inaugurating the ceremony of death for which everyone was invited! 😕

Two, Alexander's expression of regret at not having had Chanakya on his side was not only heartfelt, but the only truly sensible thing he has said this week. In fact I noted that Alexander has now given Chanakya the formal title of Sansaar ke sabse bade Aalim. Aristotle, if he had got to know of this, would not have been pleased!😉

When he lit the fire under the bull, I felt that what Alexander regretted was not only the loss of such a tremendous intellect at his side, but also, objectively, the loss to the world of someone of such unshakable stoicism and courage even in the face of such a terrible death.

Alexander + Chanakya? : Finally, along with Inlieu and others, I did ruminate about what an Alexander-Chanakya combo would have been like. I think it was in my post about the Great Confrontation between Chanakya and Puru. It sounds splendid, and of course they would, together, have been unbeatable. However, I doubt if it would have lasted, for both of them were unbending autocrats, who would have been at loggerheads very soon!😉

I also think they wouldn't have lasted together! Even Alexander wouldn't have liked to kill his enemy by deceit like Puru!

Wife and mother: Now for Part 3 of this post, the one about flawed justice. But before I get to that, I must mention another segment that impressed me considerably. This was the back to back sequence of two conversations in Episode 173, the Laachi- Puru one and then the Anusuya-Puru one (he comes after the ladies both times as he was mostly an object here, not a subject).

Both scenes were surprisingly good. Especially the former, where Laachi displayed impeccable dignity combined with steely resolve. I have always liked the girl, but here she really impressed me with the smooth, non-confrontational, and yet extremely determined technique she used to put Puru right in the firing line. The success of a demarche depends to a large extent on the exit line, and Laachi's was perfect.👏

Anusuya too was excellent, firm and lucid in her statements, and always putting principles first. But that is nothing new where she is concerned!

Yes, both the scenes were very well executed! Laachi is quite a good actor! I was underestimating her when she was smiling non-stop since the past few occasions! 😆

Flawed justice: I am sure that after having held their breaths overnight in tension about what would happen to Anusuya, many here would have heaved a sigh of relief at the end of the precap on Friday, and rejoiced over the 7 day reprieve extended to Anusuya by Laachi. They would also have praised Maharaja Purushottam lavishly for what they perceive as his Solomonic justice.

I am happy that they, and especially Surbhi, are so happy. Bu this apart, there were things that Puru did last night that left me bemused and disturbed.

Here, I am not going into the rights and wrongs of what Laachi and Anusuya did or didn't do, for that would keep me here till tomorrow, and you would all have run away! 😆 I am confining myself to my views of what Puru did on Friday.

Really, the current PR track is so weird! Everyone is slipping out of their characters! 😆😆 Firstly, all of a sudden Sumer turned a traitor without having a solid reason. Then Anusuya, despite being so intelligent, didn't consider to share her suspicion with Bamni or Puru and also didn't think of the affect of Sumer's assassination on their alliance with the Dasyus. Anusuya could have also alerted Puru while running to stop Sumer! Well, I should stop! And finally, I was startled to hear Dasyuraj actually speaking.. also completely a new thing for his character! 😆

First and most important, the whole basis on which Puru conducts the proceedings is wrong. According to the fundamental principles of universal jurisprudence , it is NOT for Anusuya, the accused in these proceedings, to prove herself innocent. It is for the State, in this case Maharaja Purushottam, to prove her guilty.

So what Maharaja Purushottam should have done was to launch a detailed enquiry into the possibility which he (really cleverly) flags to Laachi, viz that Sumer might be guilty. There was no need, no matter what Laachi said, for him to box himself into pronouncing a judgement that very day. It is a very serious matter, not one of deciding whether to buy tomatoes or brinjals at the market, and it should not have been hustled in this manner at all. 😲

Tomatoes and Brinjals!! 😆

Besides this unnecessary rush to judgement, there were other major acts of comission and omission by Puru that need to be flagged.

Three elements : Let us take the three elements in the charges against Anusuya.

One, that she had taken the law into her own hands - a point that I had raised earlier in this forum - and not only attacked Sumer but killed him outright instead of wounding him. Puru has neatly nullified this charge, by demonstrating that in a crisis situation, such things happen.

The manner in which he did this was patently contrived and dicey, for what if the Dasyuraj (who has come to life now all of a sudden and become surprisingly vocal and assertive!😉) had not flared up like that? But such cinematic liberties are permissible, so let us overlook that.

But what if he wouldn't have spoken up this much! It would have failed Puru's demonstration!

Two, that Anusuya has not been able to provide proof of Sumer's treason. Puru negates this one too by stating that the absence of proof of guilt is NOT automatically proof of innocence. So far so good.

The third charge is that she wrongly assumed Sumer's guilt based on her own interpretation of his actions. This can be negated only by getting the evidence to settle the issue one way or the other.

Here is where Maharaja Purushottam stumbles. He does not state the obvious, that it is HIS job as king to get this enquiry done.

Instead, through the odd decision to leave the judgement - BOTH of Anusuya's culpability and of her consequent punishment - to Laachi, who is the accuser, and hence automatically biased against the accused Anusuya, he in effect abdicates his responsibility as the king to secure justice for the accused.

Now it is left to Anusuya to prove herself innocent, which is a travesty of the fundamental principle of jurisprudence, that is for the State to prove that the accused is guilty.

And that too within such a short time frame for a matter of life and death, for if Anusuya is found guilty, the sentence might well be a capital one ?😲

How, and more important, WHY is Anusuya expected to get this proof with a 7 day deadline, when it is actually Puru's task as the king to do that, of course in an impartial manner? 😲

Secondly, if he wants to avoid any appearance of his being partial towards either his mother or his wife, he should have appointed an impartial, unconcerned outsider as the judge. NOT Laachi.

How can she, the accuser, be trusted to be an impartial judge? And how would any judgement she gives look impartial, and be accepted as such? It is most unconvincing.

So now Maharaja Purushottam has, instead of discharging the responsibility which is his, and his alone, delegated it to the one person to whom he should NOT have delegated it.

What is more, his decision is also unfair to Laachi. She has now been put at the foot of the wall, and saddled with this unexpected responsibility which should never have come to her. She is in a very sticky situation, for any decision she takes will be seen as biased one way or the other.

It is all ludicrous. More to the point, it is downright dangerous, for it exposes Anusuya to risks she should never have had to face. As far as Maharaja Purushottam's notions of kingship go, it was all decidedly disheartening.

Puru is a newbie and inexperienced at the task of providing nyaay! 😆 Whether Anusuya will be able to procure the letter addressed to Kanishk which is the ONLY proof I guess, is yet to be known! A lot more of this drama is left! I am bored to the core now! Both Puru and Alex tracks are 🤢!

OK,folks, this is it. You have all had a 12 episode break from me, and seeing the chaotic way in which things are going in our show, the next break is likely to be as long, if not longer. So relax, and if you liked this one, please do not forget to hit the Like button.

Honestly Aunty, these stupid tracks don't deserve such intelligent analysis! Don't stake your health on this! Take proper rest Aunty!

Shyamala Aunty/Di


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Posted: 7 years ago
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Nice analysis as always di,
2 be honest I hardly watch d episodes coz it 2 much frictional 4 me 2 digest but u write so gud , I can leave with out commenting on it.

Ur post gave me whole summary
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Flawed Justice is something i will take up first.
Di in every next show...this scene is shown like raja punishing the mother and after that somebody else comes with the proof and things are sorted but for me the relation is gone forever. Like i have always said..."vishwas aankh moondh kar hi kiya jaata hain"...agar saaksho ke saath vishwas kiya jayega ...toh vishwas shaakso par hua na...insaan par thodi hua. So i am really happy that puru ne vishwas dikhaya...he did trusted her. CV's have handled this situation in a lovely way...above my expectations .and thus i am happy bunny. Its not about how much politically correct it was...i am looking at it from relations point of view...for me puru proved himself both as a son and as a husband by fighting the situation the way he did...he did considered the matter important and wanted to do proper research about it...thus he was not calling nyaysabah himself...but when his wife comes to him, that too especially when she just a moment before showed him how she can go against her parents to protect him...how she returned to him even when her brother was killed in the mahal...he couldn't just say no directly to her...he tried explaining about the matter that how is par abhi oas padi hain...was trying to demand time in a way...but laachi was not in a mood to do that...she clearly stated ki its okay...agar bhai galat prove hua toh main dasyu logo ke against jakar aapka saath doongi jaise maine aaj diya...warna aap nyay karna...he had to give in for that nyaysabah ...because he didn't want to break her trust in him...the girl just told him ki woh asthiyan bhi nahi bahayegi nyay ke bina...and he ofcourse has responsibilities towards his wife too...so a nyaysabah was arranged...i am glad he removed the rajpagdi because he clearly identified that a raja cant do pakshpaat ...but son will like to present a tark...as a son, he was already convinced that anusuya hasn't done wrong...she won't kill somebody aise hi...he created situations that the scene which happened got recreated...and laachi also choosed to kill and proved how in some circumstances, log izazat nahi le sakte and bas karm kar sakte hain. Declared joh laachi ne kiya woh uchit tha and questioned ki toh joh meri maa ne kiya kya woh anuchit tha?????? ...and laachi was forced to think...he raised the same point which i was raising yesterday that just because there is no proof against sumer, doesnt means sumer is innocent...and thus anusuya cannot be punished...made it a point to mention that may be the sabha isnt aware about some truths...once again made laachi think...and then what he did was as a pati...after doing all that...he had put laachi brain to think in a way she was not thinking before...thinking that what anusuya did can be right ...there are chances...but obviously as anusuya couldnt present any proof and neither could puru ...he knew if he gave anusuya time ...laachi will be upset thinking that he has clearly sided his mother...bhai ko samajh hi liya doshii...toh usne decision hi usse lene ko keh diya...that was a masterstroke for me, not a mistake...(its obviously a mistake from political point of view)...but here he knows laachi from ages...the girl has always supported right...and in decision position, she obviously couldnt neglect that how there can be chances of anusuya being innocent too ...he forced her to think from a neutral point of view through all he did there in nyaysabah...made her think from the point she was not thinking before from...he hasnt taken a risk with his mother by passing the right to punish to laachi because he does know how will laachi react to this...he knew woh decision lete huye pakshpaat nahi karegi...and she cant punish anusuya just like that ...her heart won't allow and thats what she did ...decided to give anusuya time. Now that's what puru wanted from the start...time to prove his mother innocent. He got that and now he will toh look for truth, balki laachi will also support him as a wife to find the truth because she will be happy with the fact ki uske husband ne uska saath nahi choda balki he instead gave her the right to take decision...trusted her with his own mother...so he kinda supported both the ladies...united his family...aur ab chaaro milke dhoondenge saboot. So if you look from my point of view...what he did was all right and i was amazed kyonki maine yeh expect nahi kiya tha ki puru itne ache se sab kuch manage kar lega. Beta bhi ban jayega aur pati bhi...apne dono rishte itni khoobsurti se nibha lega. I was expecting, he will be bound to choose between them but i was pleasantly surprised. I agree this all might be politically not correct...like he gave right to laachi to punish anusuya who is the actual accusing party but here it was more about how well he knew his wife. He stood with both the important ladies in his life and i loved it.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I didn't understand one thing that why did Puru remove his Pagdi?

He said that a King can't do partiality while wearing it so 'is pagdi ka maan rakhne ke liye main isey utaar raha hun'

Iska to yahi matlab nikalta hai ki ab wo partiality karne wala hai 🤣
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Posted: 7 years ago
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hello aunty ,
thanx for the pm , how is ur health ?

yeah its a flawed justice , a odd one though i liked the act of puru along with hasti to make lachi & others understand & lachi's momentary realization made puru confident that yes she is getting but then that was just momentary .

i agree with ur points , these makers..🤢...they think there puru is very smart so cleverly he has pushed the table towards lachi & that smirk...

anyways not much accuracy could be expected from them . lets see what these 7 days can unfold , anything useful will come or it will only come just when the punishment for anusuya would be announced .

& this mud theory , i really did not get how the coating of mud can save chanakya from that furnace...😲 , will look into their explanation & try hard into buying it...😆

till the end i was expecting his escape from that bull , & as soon as hephaestion will open it he would be in for a surprise...😛 but offcourse nothing of that sort happened & now we know that the body of chanakya has gone missing , waiting to see the faces of alexander & olympia...😛😆

i don't like alex anymore , rohit is still going good but his character graph...🤢
& roxanna , i think i missed the smile part & i so hate this character...😡
olympia , so proud of her son...afterall he is practicing what she started hence this gleam...monsterous mode on , like sameeksha...😳
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My dear Vaishnavi,

To see such a detailed and perky response to this post makes me feel like the old days - when my threads used to be full of such vigorous discussions, with over 70 Likes for the main post and at least 15 pages of comments - have somehow come back! Thanks ever so much, my dear. It is only Inlieu and you who take so much trouble over my posts.

I agree with all that you have said here. And though I can see that we are not quite on the same page as regards that bull, you have fudged that every bit as neatly, and with as much finesse, as Rohit did in that Cinespeaks interview!👏😆 Clever girl!

The one thing that is certain about this serial is that nothing is certain. There are tantalising hints that Alexander is going to take a mudpack treatment a la Chanakya😉, and others of his poora kunba being found in Dasyu Lok, of all of which one can make no sense at all. The only understandable one is that of his sword fight with Kanishka, which should be fun to watch.

Let us simply possess our souls in patience, drift with the tide, and see where it takes us.

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: Vaishnavi_

Hello Aunty! I have added my comments in Red. I am quite pissed off with the current track and its slow advance! 😡 Anusuya has a week now! Pata nahin kya hoga! 😕 The post was awesome!! 👏

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