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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Flame_of_Forest

I have a different view regarding the characters.

For me, In a TV show a character is end result of contribution by many people like the actor, director, writer, dialogues, editor and others unlike a novel where the character is created solely by the writer. (so I am not looking at the written character here)

and the word relatable also has a little different meaning for me.

Definitely the matching thought process, actions, reactions to a situation is one part of it, but
beyond that there is also a part in terms of how the character exhibits its feelings and whether they touch the viewers heart or not,
or how they make the character feel real through conviction and get the viewer connected and related to her/his feelings (even if the viewer has not experienced similar circumstances or incidents or emotions)

so there is a mixed feeling when I look at these characters.

my thought process does not match with that of Nandini, but the feelings expressed by her are easily connectable.
while I am not able to connect with the feelings exhibited by Mauli and Kunal but my thought process against the domestic abuse matches there. May be because something is a miss there, may be the emotions do not go beyond a certain level (and I am not talking about making it dramatic), but the depth seems to be missing to me, be it emotional or romantic scene. Give a week full of romantic scenes the way they are currently and I may even skip it altogether because they are predictably repetitive. The rewind-the-scene-value is less for me.

but then what is a story, if the characters do not go through some emotional and mindset related evolution,
so waiting for Nandini to start repelling and rebelling out against the abuse..and hoping the transformation is done subtly..it is a high time now considering 4-6 years of their marriage.

On the story theme (the way it is advertised) - not in favor of EMA at all nor I am sure if I will continue watching the show, but it would be interesting to know as a possibility as what happens if Kunal and Mauli are thrown to face an emotional disruption..how Kunal will deal considering his background of morally principled character and how Mauli will deal with the inclination of her husband towards another woman considering her strong woman background.

And about the show, overall start was well, although there are standard cliches and gimmicks..the abuse part is little overstretched and so is the goody-goody part of the Kunal/Mauli/Malhotra family.






A v interesting interpretation. Reg repetitive romantic scenes bet Kunal-Mouli I did mention tat nothing happens in each episode. So basically its the same day in & day out. Romance for 1 couple & OTT abuse/torture for the other. That's y I said it exhausts me. Both the monotony & the slow pace. Reg connecting with the characters as I mentioned I c a lot of myself in Mouli. As a working mother its like I am seeing my life on TV. Swap her MIL with FIL & its exactly my house. I c my FIL in Mouli's MIL. Reg things being too goody goody Kunal & Mouli do fight & make up. That again is quite common in all families. I think the CVs r intentionally showing Mouli's life to be too good to be true may be to drive that v same point. That its too good & soon her entire life will be turned topsy turvy by Nandini. May be its to show the contrast pre & post Nandini. Tats y I said they need to pick up the pace.

Reg Nandini I respect ur views but I disagree with the part where you said the feelings are easily connectable. If a mother thinks tat she would rather go for an abortion than get divorced by her abusive husband, sorry but with all due respect how as a viewer am I supposed to connect with her feelings. Yes there are lots of women who suffer abuse. I am not denying that & may be many ve taken the exact same decision in their life. But since Nandini is the protagonist of this show we are supposed to see her good nature. We are supposed to like her, empathize with her, root for her. But the day she stepped foot inside a hospital to inquire about abortion she lost all my sympathy & respect. Yeah I know she did change her mind & now she says that she will fight for her child. But the v fact tat she even thought for a second bt abortion makes me dislike her.

As I said its more of each person's personal taste & their character. Many women might like Nandini & feel sorry for her. But I for 1 am not in that group. I strongly believe that God will help only those who help themselves. There are extremely mitigating situations where a woman feels completely defeated. For eg a child sold into prostitution & there is no escape for her. Or a war ravaged nation where horrific crimes are committed against women. But here in Nandini's case I am sorry but I dont c any such extreme situation. She is an intelligent adult. Beautiful, talented, seems reasonably educated. So when such women refuse to fight abuse/crime & remain silent it hurts me as a right thinking woman. This is the prime reason y I dont watch Indian shows where mostly the FL ll face torture aft torture & she will b oh so mahan & patient. I want shows to highlight courage, resilience, self belief in women. I am hoping that the CVs will soon show Nandini make a bold decision, walk out of her marriage & try to find success & happiness in life. That is the Nandini that I will be cheering & rooting for...
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Angels11



A v interesting interpretation. Reg repetitive romantic scenes bet Kunal-Mouli I did mention tat nothing happens in each episode. So basically its the same day in & day out. Romance for 1 couple & OTT abuse/torture for the other. That's y I said it exhausts me. Both the monotony & the slow pace. Reg connecting with the characters as I mentioned I c a lot of myself in Mouli. As a working mother its like I am seeing my life on TV. Swap her MIL with FIL & its exactly my house. I c my FIL in Mouli's MIL. Reg things being too goody goody Kunal & Mouli do fight & make up. That again is quite common in all families. I think the CVs r intentionally showing Mouli's life to be too good to be true may be to drive that v same point. That its too good & soon her entire life will be turned topsy turvy by Nandini. May be its to show the contrast pre & post Nandini. Tats y I said they need to pick up the pace.

Reg Nandini I respect ur views but I disagree with the part where you said the feelings are easily connectable. If a mother thinks tat she would rather go for an abortion than get divorced by her abusive husband, sorry but with all due respect how as a viewer am I supposed to connect with her feelings. Yes there are lots of women who suffer abuse. I am not denying that & may be many ve taken the exact same decision in their life. But since Nandini is the protagonist of this show we are supposed to see her good nature. We are supposed to like her, empathize with her, root for her. But the day she stepped foot inside a hospital to inquire about abortion she lost all my sympathy & respect. Yeah I know she did change her mind & now she says that she will fight for her child. But the v fact tat she even thought for a second bt abortion makes me dislike her.

As I said its more of each person's personal taste & their character. Many women might like Nandini & feel sorry for her. But I for 1 am not in that group. I strongly believe that God will help only those who help themselves. There are extremely mitigating situations where a woman feels completely defeated. For eg a child sold into prostitution & there is no escape for her. Or a war ravaged nation where horrific crimes are committed against women. But here in Nandini's case I am sorry but I dont c any such extreme situation. She is an intelligent adult. Beautiful, talented, seems reasonably educated. So when such women refuse to fight abuse/crime & remain silent it hurts me as a right thinking woman. This is the prime reason y I dont watch Indian shows where mostly the FL ll face torture aft torture & she will b oh so mahan & patient. I want shows to highlight courage, resilience, self belief in women. I am hoping that the CVs will soon show Nandini make a bold decision, walk out of her marriage & try to find success & happiness in life. That is the Nandini that I will be cheering & rooting for...

Nandini eventually will stand up for herself and fight back. What people dont realise is this isnt a 2 hour movie,it is aimed to be a 200 300 episode series so naturally everything will be dragged so the shows can go on longer. Who says she wont fight back? She is already raising her voice against Rajdeep in the upcoming online videos. Hopefully soon she will be fearless enought o fight him back without any hesitation in the upcoming weeks.If everything will happen in first two three weeks toh aage jaake kya diikhayenge? Naturally they have to keep this build up so that viewers also wait to know when Nandini will finally walk out of her marriage and that will be the turning point of this show. As far as abortion is concerned, yes she chose her husband for a brief while over the baby. Maybe she preferred to kill it before the baby too faced the same wrath as her .Maybe she didnt want to face more abuse at his hands than she already has been facing. The fear,the trauma of his previous abuses still lingering in her mind. Maybe she became temporarily selfish. So? Its all human emotions right. She is a flawed character and that was set from day one. She was never shown to be all white and perfect. And I dont think we can comment what we would do if we were in her position unless we really ARE in her position which we are not and God forbid that it ever happens to anybody .Also education has NOTHING to do with taking domestic violence. Some of the most educated and stinkingly rich celebs have taken abuse- Rihanna, Zeenat Aman anyone? Both well educated ,beautiful,rich but still took years to walk out of their abusive relationships. It happens all the time.And it isnt as easy as saying "Oh I would do this or Oh I would never do this". Each person has a different way of thinking and a different mindset. I will tell you something very personal. My own sister has been a victim of abuse and it took her 7 whole years to speak up and get a divorce. She tolerated and tolerated and tolerated for 7 long years as she believed he would change some day but it never happened. She is now a happily divorced woman and lives with her parents today. She was well educated,university topper,yet took abuse for 7 years before she finally decided to walk out. These things do happen in the real world and we cannot generalise that Nandini isnt going to be relatable at all.Relatability is a subjective opinion. Maybe you dont relate to her but thousands out there suffering abuse silently might relate to her,When tomorrow Nandini speaks up against Rajdeep ,she might be the voice for those thousands whose voices we never hear,whose tears we never see. Her journey hasnt begun,it is yet to begin and we will have to wait and watch to see how it unfolds.
Edited by Alohomora_ - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Alohomora

Nandini eventually will stand up for herself and fight back. What people dont realise is this isnt a 2 hour movie,it is aimed to be a 200 300 episode series so naturally everything will be dragged so the shows can go on longer. Who says she wont fight back? She is already raising her voice against Rajdeep in the upcoming online videos. Hopefully soon she will be fearless enought o fight him back without any hesitation in the upcoming weeks.If everything will happen in first two three weeks toh aage jaake kya diikhayenge? Naturally they have to keep this build up so that viewers also wait to know when Nandini will finally walk out of her marriage and that will be the turning point of this show. As far as abortion is concerned, yes she chose her husband for a brief while over the baby. Maybe she preferred to kill it before the baby too faced the same wrath as her .Maybe she didnt want to face more abuse at his hands than she already has been facing. The fear,the trauma of his previous abuses still lingering in her mind. Maybe she became temporarily selfish. So? Its all human emotions right. She is a flawed character and that was set from day one. She was never shown to be all white and perfect. And I dont think we can comment what we would do if we were in her position unless we really ARE in her position which we are not and God forbid that it ever happens to anybody .Also education has NOTHING to do with taking domestic violence. Some of the most educated and stinkingly rich celebs have taken abuse- Rihanna, Zeenat Aman anyone? Both well educated ,beautiful,rich but still took years to walk out of their abusive relationships. It happens all the time.And it isnt as easy as saying "Oh I would do this or Oh I would never do this". Each person has a different way of thinking and a different mindset. I will tell you something very personal. My own sister has been a victim of abuse and it took her 7 whole years to speak up and get a divorce. She tolerated and tolerated and tolerated for 7 long years as she believed he would change some day but it never happened. She is now a happily divorced woman and lives with her parents today. She was well educated,university topper,yet took abuse for 7 years before she finally decided to walk out. These things do happen in the real world and we cannot generalise that Nandini isnt going to be relatable at all.Relatability is a subjective opinion. Maybe you dont relate to her but thousands out there suffering abuse silently might relate to her,When tomorrow Nandini speaks up against Rajdeep ,she might be the voice for those thousands whose voices we never hear,whose tears we never see. Her journey hasnt begun,it is yet to begin and we will have to wait and watch to see how it unfolds.



I am really happy that ur sister is now in a happy place. Tats y I said stories like these r personal. For u because u saw ur sister's pain & struggle u r able to feel Nandini's pain. For me since I ve struggled with a stressful job, post marriage family pressure in Indian society, motherhood I am able to feel Mauli's pain. That is the beauty of art. Each person looks at a painting & interprets it in a different way...

I think the prob is we as audience still dont know bt Nandini's past. wat happened aft Mauli walked out. why did she still marry rajdeep. is there some money/debt involved. where are nandini's parents. I think once these things are clearer the viewers ll gradually warm up to her character. I think CVs s'd cut short the long drawn out abuse/torture scenes & focus more on nandini's past. tat ll help us understand her better.

And yeah even i said the same. Once the CVs start showing a stronger Nandini people like me will like the show more. Because rather than showing how women are tortured & abused I want the show to focus on how such women find courage, fight back & build back their life. Celebrate women like ur sister who spoke out & managed to succeed in life. I want more & more shows to highlight such women who can inspire rather than women whom we feel sorry for. Then tat ll b the real success of shows like Silsila.
Edited by Angels11 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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@TM I am also in my 30s, free, independent, earning well for myself, but that doesn't stop me from relating to Nandini's character. (no sarcasm meant, I just feel that one doesn't need to see themselves in the place of a fictional character in order to be able to relate to them). I do feel for Nandini, I sympathize with her, I strongly want her to stand up for herself in future because her emotions come out really well and they look real. I feel for Nandini, because over years I have been seeing so many women around who put up with domestic abuse for one or the other reason, especially the ones from my mother's generation. Sometimes it is in subtle form, sometimes it is harsher. They tolerate it because they don't want their households to get broken, their children to get affected at the cost of their own self esteem. There is one girl in my extended family who is tolerating her husband's abuse (physical too) for years. She is educated, and was a carefree, chirpy person once. But after 15 years into an abusive marriage and two grown up kids, she doesn't have a way out now. If I were in her place, I would have never, ever tolerated even 1/1000th of what she has gone through, but that doesn't mean I can't sympathize with her or don't feel pity for her. She has her own reasons to stick to that relationship, and she might be doing the right thing from her own perspective (not that I find it right, but that doesn't make her wrong or proves her a fool, IMO). It is not always easy for everyone to break a relationship and start a new life. Some may not have the courage, some may not have the moral support, some may not have led an independent life ever.
Coming to Nandini, I really hope the makers show a solid reason that made Nandini to stick to her abusive relationship. From the FBs, she doesn't appear to be an oppressed person. There needs to be a crisp backstory about how she became the submissive person that she is now, and what made her and Mauli drift apart from each other. As of now, I do feel for her, and I look forward to her journey and how she emerges strong with help of Mauli and Kunal.
Mauli and Kunal, their relationship is perfect and beautiful. But I have to confess, I do get bored sometimes watching their scenes and tend to forward it. Because it is too goody goody sometimes. Not that I prefer romanticized abuse between the leads, in fact, I am more a fan of positive relationships where male lead respects female lead's dignity and personal space. But Mauli-Kunal scenes sometimes seem to be overdose of perfection. At this moment, they are not on my prime list for sticking to the show. Yes, and their too much intimacy is awkward to watch on TV at times.

Having said this, I absolutely don't want their relationship to break because Mauli doesn't fit into Kunal's definition of perfect wife, as that doesn't give him a clean chit to leave her and go after someone else. That would be a lame reason to be honest. Differences in relationships can always be sorted out.

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I agree with you on costumes, I like Mauli's costumes. It is a nice change to see that female characters in a show don't wear heavy jewellery and makeup 24x7! I do like Nandini's sarees as well. They make DD look gorgeous actually. I just hope that they don't overdo with them and make her wear typical female lead kind of clothes with doris and open backs unnecessarily.
Edited by _goofyCat_ - 7 years ago

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