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Posted: 7 years ago
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Thanks a lot, my dear
Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: deepikagupta9

4 dharti ka veer Yodha Prithviraj Chauhan is available on hotstar app u can download from playstore.

Veer Shivaji is available on voot.

i will not prithviraj & veer shivaji r not frictional but way better than poras

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Aunty, if you want to explore non-historicals, then Yeh Pyaar Nahin to Kya Hai on Sony is looking pretty good right now. Great acting, awesome dialogues and tight script. The previous show from the same team was also fabulous.

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Posted: 7 years ago
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This sounds too good to be true!😉 I generally avoid regular soaps- but as you recommend this one so strongly, I shall try it.How many episodes are over already?

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: inlieu

Aunty, if you want to explore non-historicals, then Yeh Pyaar Nahin to Kya Hai on Sony is looking pretty good right now. Great acting, awesome dialogues and tight script. The previous show from the same team was also fabulous.

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Posted: 7 years ago
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51 so far. They are all on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-i8UMqG7fzc&index=49&list=PLzufeTFnhupxlWdoBeNJg1PSwlcVEW2iz.
All the scenes are shot in real locations instead of on set so the feeling is totally different. Obviously it's not an action based show so the pace is nothing like Porus, but there's a lot great character development and connecting the dots that you can enjoy.
We never know with these TV shows how long the magic lasts, but we can enjoy it while it does. 😉

Originally posted by: sashashyam

This sounds too good to be true!😉 I generally avoid regular soaps- but as you recommend this one so strongly, I shall try it.How many episodes are over already?

Shyamala Aunty

Edited by inlieu - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Thanks, my dear.

Now go and look at my response on your thread about Alexander's letter to Darius.

Shyamala Aunty
QUOTE=inlieu]
51 so far. They are all on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-i8UMqG7fzc&index=49&list=PLzufeTFnhupxlWdoBeNJg1PSwlcVEW2iz.
All the scenes are shot in real locations instead of on set so the feeling is totally different. Obviously it's not an action move so the pace is nothing like Porus, but there's a lot great character development and connecting the dots that you can enjoy.
We never know with these TV shows how long the magic lasts, but we can enjoy it while it does. 😉

Originally posted by: sashashyam

This sounds too good to be true!😉 I generally avoid regular soaps- but as you recommend this one so strongly, I shall try it.How many episodes are over already?

Shyamala Aunty

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Done, replied.


Originally posted by: sashashyam

Thanks, my dear.

Now go and look at my response on your thread about Alexander's letter to Darius.

Shyamala Aunty
QUOTE=inlieu]
51 so far. They are all on youtube https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-i8UMqG7fzc&index=49&list=PLzufeTFnhupxlWdoBeNJg1PSwlcVEW2iz.
All the scenes are shot in real locations instead of on set so the feeling is totally different. Obviously it's not an action move so the pace is nothing like Porus, but there's a lot great character development and connecting the dots that you can enjoy.
We never know with these TV shows how long the magic lasts, but we can enjoy it while it does. 😉

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Chandragupta Maurya on NDTV imagine was a very gud show, I guess it was from Sagar arts, that serial was also frictional but was beautifully presented specially Chanakya's character. It was ended abruptly
God save Chanakya from Siddharth Kumar Tiwari , pata nhi kya cartoon Bana de usse.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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What I find amiss in the historical dramas of these days is that they are unwilling to take risks when it comes to characters.
In today's historicals the characters are strictly confined to their black/white zones as deemed by the writers.Like Puru being the protagonist has to be as white as if he was washed by Nirma whereas Alexander has to be as black as charcoal.

Puru is not allowed to behave like a normal person,i.e.,he is not allowed to act like a normal human being by expressing human emotions like selfishness,ambition,etc.He is not allowed to experience failure and learn from them.He shouldn't do anything which will remind the viewers that he too is an earthling and not Superman's cousin from Planet Krypton.

In Alexander's case,even he is not permitted to behave like a normal human being.He cannot express emotions like kindness,love,empathy to others.He cannot behave affectionately before anyone.Hell he is not even allowed to smile.

What makes CGM my all time favourite historical is coz the characters were all so real.Yes CGM too was the good guy there but he too behaved like a human being and not an alien.He did not succeed from Day 1.He failed at times but learnt from them and rose again.He didn't have to show it on the faces of the audience that he was a hero.His actions themselves established him as the hero.

My another favourite thing about that show was it's depiction of Chanakya.That show depicted Chanakya as the genius he was.Chanakya cared for CGM but still he didn't flinch before bringing CGM back on track whenever he got distracted.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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My dear Sree,

Your sudden appearance on this thread is indeed a very pleasant surprise. Not because of your kind and flattering remarks about my Porus posts, but also, and even more so, because you like them for the historical detail I include, and not in spite of it! For that , you get a big hug!🤗

I have at times felt rather foolish for going to town about the historical evidence for various acts of commission and omission by Alexander, as with the destruction of Thebes. As you might have seen from my Deliberate distortions post, that event was far more complex than it appeared at first sight, and needs to be seen not only in terms of the sequence of actions on both sides, but also in terms of the events that led up to the siege of Thebes. So I tried to explain this, using extracts from Plutarch,but I do not think too many here were interested, and so I stopped citing historical sources from then on.

But as you are really into historical detail, take a look at a post of mine on Quora. Go to

https://top.quora.com/Who-won-the-battle-of-the-Hydaspes-River-Greeks-or-Indians

which is a highly negative article about Alexander by one Samuel Jones. Well, he is entitled to his opinion, that is fair enough. But he was indulging, as far as the battle was concerned, in outright lies, banking on the assumption that no one would check up what he was asserting. But I did, and I posted a detailed rebuttal of his stand on the question of who won the battle. My response is the only comment on his piece, so you can't miss it. I think it will interest you.

I will stop here, for my hands are more painful than usual today - I suffer from rheumatoid arthritis. But I will give relatively brief answers to the questions in this post.

Once more, welcome to my threads!

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: x_sree_

My dear Aunty, I am New in this forum as well as in your threads but I have silently read many of your threads. Although I don't watch this show, I had tried watching the first few episodes of the show, but I got bored right after 2 weeks only so stopped watching it.

But I am commenting over here, not because of the show or it's historically horrendous episodes, but because of your interesting analysis and also the amazing pieces of info that you give related to Indian history as well as the world history. Being a history lover myself I love reading your interesting pieces of informations related to history.

BTW I read over here that you used to watch Peshwa Bajirao, did you use to post your analysis on that Forum, since I was a silent reader of that forum as well and I don't recall reading your analysis on that forum, so I was asking did I miss reading your wonderful analysis???

Nothing bar one short lament on the abysmal TRPs for such a superb show, which is at

http://www.india-forums.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4807723


Incidentally, I was bemused to find 14 likes for this post now, of which not even half were there when I first put it up!😉

And related to the show, I feel that the biggest flaw in the scripts of an Indian Historical is that just to show Indians and India great the Cvs paint the foreigners out an out black, which I feel is completely wrong. The opposition don't always need to be completely wrong to make you great or right. And after watching a few scenes of Porus, I feel the Sony TV's Porus is 'All Talks and No Actions' kind of guy, and I severely hate those kind of Guys, so I will not talk about him anymore.

Agree 101%!

Btw since you mentioned many of the historicals which I have watched wholly or partially, and Peshwa Bajirao was my favorite as well amongst them, although the script degraded badly After leap with the story revolving only around Kashi-Bajirao-Mastani love story only, which I simply hated. I want to ask did you watch Chandragupt Maurya of NDTV Imagine, since there was no mention about that show in your post, since that was also one of the best historicals made in India, although it had an incomplete ending due to forced shutting down of the channel. I feel that was the only show which could properly do justice to the character of Kautilya Chanakya (my favorite character in Indian History), which neither CAS & CN could properly do justice to!!!

The best ever representation of Chanakya on TV is by Chandraprakash Dwivedi in his iconic Chanakya, of 1990 (47 one hour episodes). That showed Chanakya's weak moments as well, his instants of despair, and was thus far more realistic even than the NDTV Imagine version. It also devoted a lot of time to the details of Chanakya's political manoeuvring.

However, Manish Wadhwa was magnificent as Chanakya, and NDTV Imagine's CGM is the next best. I have not yet finished watching it online. The sound is often bad, and that is irritating, plus the overdose of Dhananand, and the sleazy Amatya Katyayan, aka Rakshas. You should see the one in the 1990 Chanakya! There are also unrealistic bits, like the way in which the kid Chandragupta rescues Chanakya from being executed. Their Alexander looks like a suet pudding. Still, a very good effort. The 1990 Chanakya made no concessions at all to entertainment value, and would not have lasted for more than 2 months today!

I gave up on CAS as soon as they showed the great Chanakya, who had a mind like a steel trap, letting himself be trapped and murdered like the veriest tyro in statecraft. The one in Chandra Nandni, the Mahaamatya Khallatak of CAS, was not even worth talking about !

Thank you!!!
Will love to read more from you over here or any other Forum!!!

Edited by sashashyam - 7 years ago

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