Porus 130: Chandrakanta ya Hatim Tai?

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Folks,

The only problem I had in watching today's episode was, no, not enduring Puru's bhashans, in which he outdid himself tonight. They went on and on and on, the same words repeated umpteen times with a vim and vigour which were astonishing in a chap who had almost expired a few minutes earlier!

However, I had cleverly provided myself with a pair of ear plugs, and I put them to good use as soon as he opened his mouth, and held forth for, in total, at least half of today's telecast time😉. The only difficulty was in unplugging myself quickly enough as soon as Alexander began to speak, but then he was on the backfoot throughout, so even if I had missed a bit, it would have hardly mattered.

I was mostly laughing at myself for having got so worked up last night, about Alexander's reputation and Puru's existence. It is now clear to me that neither of them is worth bothering about. To put it bluntly, I felt like a fool.

As for the serial, it has by now descended to the level of an outright farce, with Puru pulling 8 arrows out of his body, fighting with six men, leaping over 30 feet to Alexander's balcony, and then putting what looked like a cardboard contraption masquerading as a sword to Alexander's throat. And holding it there for ages while both Hephaestion and his men gaped ineffectually at this sight.

Puru deliberately did not do the one thing that would have been useful for protecting Bharat, ie cut Alexander's throat, even when invited to do so by the unshaken Alexander.

Instead, he went to great lengths to acquaint Alexander - who took the momentous news with phlegmatic calm - with the fact that he, Purushottam, was the muhafiz the "Oracle" had warned Alexander about, and promising him dire retribution if he ever dared to step on the aanchal of Puru's mathrubhoomi.

This went for a while longer as Alexander looked on with a bemused expression on his face. Cliche was piled on cliche until Puru ran out of breath and finally stopped. I think the CVs must be fans of the old films of the 1960s and 1970s, which abounded in such fiery perorations by Dharmendra, Rajendra Kumar and their ilk.😡

In the middle of these ludicrous goings on, the only slight saving grace was Alexander. He has far more presence even in a badly disadvantaged situation, he manages to hold his own with icy calm , and most important, he does not make any speeches.

But today was not his day, and it showed clearly. He was caught totally unawares by a Puru who suddenly became a combo of Rambo and the Flying Dutchman, but even so, one does not expect Alexander to be caught unawares. The only excuse for him is that the CVs didn't let him fly like Puru !😉

So he had to stand there like a stuffed dummy, listening helplessly to Puru holding forth, without being able to do anything to retrieve the situation. A ludicrous position for a world conqueror to be in, and if the shade of Alexander could emerge from wherever it is, Porus ke CVs ki to khair nahin!😆

The only time Alexander said something worth listening to, when he smoothly and unexpectedly trapped Barsine & Co. into staying back, Puru was blessedly silent, and I could hear him properly and enjoy that bit. But very soon Puru was back with his lines, alas!

Though why Alexander wants this sullen, puffy faced female and her pinch faced mother (her sister hardly counts) hanging around is beyond me. In his place I would have said Good riddance, and settled myself down to ruling Faras wisely and well. I have still not sorted out this mystery.

I at least hope he has the good sense to ignore them totally, confine them to their rooms and leave them alone. But no, I suppose he is going to drag them to Bactria with him. And eventually marry Ms. Puffy Face as well. God help him!

As for how Puru is going to make his own marg out of Faras, it was silly of Alexander to ask that question. He is simply going to fly, just as he flew up to the balcony, all the way back to Paurav Rashtra, since he no longer has to worry about the Barsine Raksha Abhiyaan😉. To see his parents neatly locked up by Shivdutt, and Kanishka on the throne.

Ah yes,the problem. I had almost forgotten about it . It was about making up my mind as to which would be a better substitute for this show: Chandrakanta or Hatim Tai. I suppose either would do. At least those were honest about what they were setting out to be, and did not practice outright fraud on the viewers! Swastik and Siddharth Tewary have no business calling this production a historical. It belongs clearly in the mytho genre, with Puru's bhashans thrown in for good measure.

To wind up, I never thought the day would come when the Paurav Rashtra segment was the choice part of the episode. But it came tonight. In fact the best part of today's episode for me was the Anusuya-Shivdutt duel. She was truly superb, and Malay was as cute as ever. I wonder what is going to happen to him. I hope Anusuya takes him to prison with her and Bamni.

Finally, I have a piecc of good news for you, folks. I am going to shut up shop for the foreseeable future and shall not be inflicting any more posts on you come Monday. This script and this serial are just not my cup of tea, and today's episode brought this truth home to me. It is folly to spend so much time and energy analysing and commenting on such nonsense.

It has been great fun getting to know all of you, and I wish you all as much entertainment as possible with what is left of Porus. Take care, and God bless.

Shyamala/ Aunty/Di



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Posted: 7 years ago
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I was fortunate enough not to watch todays episode. I am sure many members of this forum including me would miss your posts, they were only reason I joined here. But you are right Shyamala Aunty, time is precious and Porus is no more worth it.
What CVs is doing is insult to actual 'King Porus'. He had no idea that Alexander marching towards Bharat, Chanakya had approached king Puru and informed him about macedonian army heading towards Bharata. Paurava army and Puru had no time to prepare themselves for war, still fought bravely and Alexander's army decided not to go further to invade Magadh etc.
All that we know about life of porus is after his war with Alexander, So Cvs has to cook up some or other story in order to drag serial till 260 episodes.
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Okay, i will reply to the complete post tomorrow. But i want to say something...i can understand no one really expected ki aisa kuch ho sakta hain jaisa ki hua...but remember anusuya was told he will be lohe ka shareer and moam ka dil always. He is still same...ofcourse i dont support the whole jumping scenario...because anu was never told ki aapke bete ko udne ki shakti bhi prapt hogiii...wohhh jyaada ho gaya...teer nikalne se bahut jyaada...but please dont stop watching this show ...pls dont stop analyzing...itni mushkil se toh is forum ke kuch jaan aayi hain...ronak hain ...discussions hai...khos.a gaya tha kahi...porus will be back on track...please dont stop...porus rajya track is gonna be interesting now...with bamni and anu finally in action...i know things have not gone as expected...but yeh shayad issi tarah hi hona tha...unhe puru ko waha se nikalna tha...aur yeh warning dene ke baad nikalna tha ki woh bharat par attack karne ki na soache...instead of high jump...agar woh usse bhaag kar us stage par chadtha hua dikha dete toh najane kya jaata. Par samjho...ki shayad yeh log dikhayenge alex ko jeeta hua last mein aur isiliye aaj puru ko khada kiya talwar lekar...to show when he got a chance...he dint killed...and alex yaad rakhega...aage future mein aur isiliye nahi marega purushottam ko...i have read articles which said ki roxanne ki rakhi ke baad...porus jaan baksh deta hain alex ki ek baar...bas yeh samajh lo...yeh wahi tha...i know bahut negatives ho rahe show mein...like people are not liking the long dialougues...but try and understand...an historic like this is also meant to tell what india is...how indian people are and ya in a veryyy enhancedd way because its all about porus...about india. When a movie was made on alex...it concentrated on alex more...a show from indian persexpective willl boost about india and porus much more than alexander. They will not show alexander as a parallal lead because from an indian perspective...alexxx was an attacker...woh hamare desh ka dushman tha...he attacked our nation. Try and understand in that prospective...movies on alex never highlight what porus was and its vice versa here. A show on porus wont highlight good qualities of alex...its from indian perspective. They will highlight india and porus more.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Siddharth sir said that he will cover alex story parallaly too...he never said he will go in deep details...alex movies have porus entry only when he enters for war...but here they are covering alex story in a show named porus. Biasness toh naam se hi aa jaati hain...agar alex aur puru ko equal karke dikhana hota
...toh name could have been two legends...war of hydapes ...or something like that ...not porus. CV's did cleared in all interviews...that this show is gonna cover story from indian perspective...and from indian perspective...alex was an attacker...an attacker who couldnt take anything from our land and never reached his country after the war either. Indian perspective mei toh woh dushman hain...and thus they will not highlight all good in him but will make sure ki bure points saare cover kare...i will answer to whole post tomorrow in detail.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Thanks for the pm, aunty. Sorry, I do not always respond because I usually have nothing more to add and sometimes, I simply skip the episode after one glance at this forum. As of today, I'm done with this show. It was so outrageous, the entire pulling out the arrows, fighting of hordes of armed men, jumping up into the royals balcony and Barsine managing to slip away Alexander's sword without his knowing! HOW?! They've dumbed Alex down. Something I will not tolerate. CV's could have written this without any character looking bad or dumb. But... anyhow I am out for good.

As for why Alex wants Barsine & Co there? I have a few assumptions. It would look really bad if the ladies successfully escaped right under his nose while he was being held at sword-point. Turning his defeat into victory as he mentioned. And going by Hepastion's earlier conversation with him, the ladies are pawns to smoke out Darius (I know it's a distortion but going by Sony's version). Alex knows where Darius is but he hasn't pursued another battle/war with him so that remains unfinished. Also, Alex seems to think Barsine and Puru are lovers. Perhaps in his mind, keeping Barsine by his side would be useful to use against Puru. Oh, and most importantly - Cv's need the royal ladies to be hostages because how else are they going to show Alexander as 'kroor'? Expect more scenes of Alexander apparently terrorizing them while they pathetically cringe, hold hands, whimper and show their eyeballs. Ugh!

This fiasco could have been avoided. I expected to have chills run down my spine the day this two came face to face in battle. But...nothing. Absolute flop. It was a premature encounter. CV's should have waited, built up anticipation.

Anyways, much ❤️ to you and the wonderful ladies on this forum. I may pop in sometimes just to see Alexander/Rohit's acting prowess. However, honestly at this point, I expect the show in regards to Alexander to go downhill from here.

Take care🤗
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I am too shocked to say much right now, but I can't believe that these are the same CVs who gave us great Macedonion battle scenes and fights between Taxila and Paurav Rashtra early on. 🤢

Even the fiery Olympias is contaminated by Barsine's wide-eyedness.

I think I'll wait for a few more episodes to be aired before I can bear to watch this show again. I am curious to see what happens to Bamni and Anusuya but I am not invested enough in their characters to watch the show just for them. Shivdutt is now looking like the only smart person in this entire show, who actually knows what politics is and can plot and scheme till the end of time.

I will just watch Alexander's scenes for Rohit and skip the rest. He had refused to accept this project twice because he was concerned that they wouldn't be able to justify Alexander's character. He had good reason to be worried about accepting this role. Right now, I just feel really sorry for the guy. He waited 2 years before coming back on screen, and this is how they treat him??? Ugh... The CVs will turn him from the best Alexander portrayed ever to the worst, the rate at which they're going. I cannot believe it's the same makers who did Razia Sultan! 😲

@Aunty, I agree with every single thing you've said. Even though I've always been optimistic and hope for the best, I can't see how they're going to save face after this episode. I love reading your posts and interacting with you here, but I do understand that just because the show's writers have become bipolar of late doesn't mean we have to waste our time analyzing something that has no substance anymore. 😡

As for Puru's maarg, I don't even want to know what outlandish scheme they've got lined up for his escape. Alexander was the only (little bit of) saving grace with his quick-thinking and stopping the cowardly ladies from escaping. I found it difficult to believe that they decided to stay back because they suddenly cared about their people. Nope, it's because Alexander's words stung Barsine. She's had enough of his taunts - it has nothing to do with caring about the Farsi population and their sorrows. I also don't care anymore if he puts those hypocritical ladies in prison, ostracizes them, or sends them off to Darius. He threatened to harm the people of Faras but in fact if the three ladies leave, he can rule as he wants to, with compassion. After this betrayal of theirs, he has every right to be angry but I guess the makers will not focus on his emotions much from now on.

@Alaria, also agree with what you said about the anticlimactic meeting between Alexander and Puru. What a wasted opportunity, CVs!

I will still be around on the forum to comment from time to time, but unless the story starts to magically make sense again, I am not inclined to write at length about anything. Oh, and yes, I will tweet the makers to show my disappointment (not that they'll care)!
Edited by inlieu - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Yeah distortion ka high level tak pahoch chuka aur bacha kya h.
I do understand your point of view.
There is no use now to bear this shit and analyze this shit.
There are many more distortion is coming on the way.
Will miss your posts😕

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: EtherealRati

Siddharth sir said that he will cover alex story parallaly too...he never said he will go in deep details...alex movies have porus entry only when he enters for war...but here they are covering alex story in a show named porus. Biasness toh naam se hi aa jaati hain...agar alex aur puru ko equal karke dikhana hota

...toh name could have been two legends...war of hydapes ...or something like that ...not porus. CV's did cleared in all interviews...that this show is gonna cover story from indian perspective...and from indian perspective...alex was an attacker...an attacker who couldnt take anything from our land and never reached his country after the war either. Indian perspective mei toh woh dushman hain...and thus they will not highlight all good in him but will make sure ki bure points saare cover kare...i will answer to whole post tomorrow in detail.

Alex ki story parallaly hi dikhaye par sahise dikhate toh aj disappointment nai hoti.
Indian perspective se me samaj sakti hu ki alex was an attacker
But now it feels indians ko glorify karne ke liye kuch bhi dikha rehe h which is no base
King Puru ka hi insult kiya h
Jinko history nai pata unko yehi lagega King Puru faras jaake yesab kiya tha.
Fiction bhi ek limit hoti h.
Puru ko faras bhejke hi bahat galat dikhaya h jaise Indians ko apne strength apne army apne techniques pe bharosa nai tha ek Prince ko jana padta h dusre desh me techniques janne.uparse sav jala diya jaisa aisa karke kitna mahan kaam karliya alex toh dar jayega.
Whatever they are showing it is totally wrong
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Posted: 7 years ago
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My dear Surbhi,

First things first. While you are of course free to write anything you like on this thread, and I shall read it with interest, I just wanted to spare you the effort and say that it is not necessary. I have grown to like you a lot even after such a minimal acquaintance: you are persuasive in a non-confrontational manner, you are fair and you are just. Even now you are trying your level best to salvage this shipwreck, and I was impressed by your determination and the passionate eloquence you brought to your task. From your perspective, of course, and you are very persuasive indeed.👏

However, you also have to see things from my perspective. I am 70, and I suffer from rheumatoid arthritis. I have been 38 years in the Indian Foreign Service, and the IF is a post-retirement hobby of mine that has been considerably cramped because of my RA. I never wrote a line in this forum till March 28 last, that is less than two months ago, for there was nothing that seemed worth commenting about in this straightforward and predictable set up, with black and white characters in a melodramatic narrative.. Then again, I have to pace my typing and I did not feel like getting on to the forum treadmill and having my fingers lock up.

I watch only historicals, not saas bahu soaps. They all start out well -Maharana Pratap, Ashoka, Jodha Akbar, and now Porus. But they invariably deteriorate and I have never lasted more than half of any of them. Of these, Jodha Akbar was the best of the lot, but that too became a farce, with vishkanyas and outlandish twists and plots when there was such a wealth of historical material ready at hand to be used.

The only truly superb historical I have watched - which, predictably, flopped and was terminated in the most clumsy and insulting manner possible - was Bajirao Peshwa. Every character in it was perfectly etched, even all the side ones, the actors were superb, the period settings were impeccable, and the script stuck close to history. I live in Pune, which is Peshwa territory, so I should know! I would unhesitatingly recommend it to you and to anyone else who reads this post for online viewing.

In Porus, it is not that the one episode of yesterday made me decide to quit, though I resent being treated like an 8 year old watching Superman😡. It is the wholesale distortion of history, and not only Alexander's, for lack of an intelligent script that would pit a street smart, shrewd, supple minded and intelligent Porus against Alexander, trying to outwit him in mind games, tactics and strategy. How I would have loved such a Puru!

Instead we have a hot headed youngster who has neither common sense nor a sense of priorities, and rushes into every situation that presents itself, like a weathercock in the wind. He never appealed to me, even before he started making speeches, whether after a Samson act from atop a pillar or on the ground. In fact I think it is the weakness in the characterisation of Puru that has kept Porus from getting the TRPs that Maharana Pratap and Ashoka got in their first year. The young protagonists there caught the imagination of the viewers, this one didn't, for otherwise, such an opulent show should not languish at TRPs of 1 or less.

Then came Alexander and Rohit, whom I had never seen before, and he made me sit up and watch. He might be an invader and an enemy, but I like complex characters, and Alexander, with such a perfect piece of casting, looked very promising. And the early Alexander was indeed handled very well, and even till recently there were excellent snippets. I am not saying that he should have got 50% of the time, and in any case, even the 20% he had was mostly more arresting than Puru's 80%. To me, that is, and this of course need not be your opinion.

Morever, Porus might be a show with an Indian perspective, but the fact is that without Alexander, no one would have remembered Porus. He is not a Chandragupta Maurya or a Chanakya or an Ashoka, who are immortalised on their own steam. Porus' sole claim to fame is that he was brave enough, and devoted enough to his land, to stand up against Alexander when no one else would do so. And it is the makers who keep on dragging the link with Alexander in at every possible moment, as if it was an umbilical cord, with the endless references to niyati. That is because they too know that without the Alexander connection, their script cannot stand on its own.

So the show was chugging along fairly well. But then things started slipping. Puru was deified and Alexander was demonised, and neither appealed to me.

I note your point that for Alexander the antagonist, the CVs would not bring up the good points and highlight all the bad ones. But then they should have chosen a script on Chengiz Khan or Timurlang, in an unrelieved black.

Here, they have been busy suppressing the wonderful bond between Sisygambis and Alexander, and have totally reversed his honourable treatment of the Persian royal ladies, because that would have humanised him and would thus have been contrary to their plans. They made him murder the High Priestess of Delphi, an event that never took place, to add another coat of tar.

This is not highlighting bad points in Alexander's makeup, and God knows there are plenty. It is manufacturing bad points that never existed and suppressing the good ones. It is dishonesty, pure and simple. I do not like such dishonesty.

Now they have reduced Alexander not just to a standard issue villain, but he has been made out to be a fool. 😡Which are both things the historical Alexander never was. Not even Rohit can now save this Alexander, who has had the stuffing knocked out of him last night.

As for Puru, he is busy hamming away for all that he is worth. It is not the boy Laksh's fault, it is the fault of the script. And whenever he faces a sticky situation, he falls back on playing Superman. It makes me weep to think of Puru's wasted potential.

My dear, I have taken up far too much of your time with this rambling response and taxed my fingers too much as well. But I was touched by your posts and I did not want to upset you in any way, whence this longwinded explanation. I hope it makes some sense!

I will now call a halt to this Ramayana. As for the forum, it is unlikely to be in any way affected by my departure. After all, I have been here for less than 2 months. And since I now dislike both Puru and Alexander, any future posts of mine would hardly make for pleasant reading!

In fact, I think you should exert yourself and post as much as you can - I have not seen a single post, or even comment of yours in these two months till you surfaced on my last but one thread. Why was that? You are good at analysis and have a sense of balance. I am sure your posts and threads will be popular and will enliven the forum. And I will come and comment on your threads, after I have had a break to recover from last night!😉

Take care, my dear Surbhi, and God bless.

Shyamala Di

Originally posted by: EtherealRati

Okay, i will reply to the complete post tomorrow. But i want to say something...i can understand no one really expected ki aisa kuch ho sakta hain jaisa ki hua...but remember anusuya was told he will be lohe ka shareer and moam ka dil always. He is still same...ofcourse i dont support the whole jumping scenario...because anu was never told ki aapke bete ko udne ki shakti bhi prapt hogiii...wohhh jyaada ho gaya...teer nikalne se bahut jyaada...but please dont stop watching this show ...pls dont stop analyzing...itni mushkil se toh is forum ke kuch jaan aayi hain...ronak hain ...discussions hai...khos.a gaya tha kahi...porus will be back on track...please dont stop...porus rajya track is gonna be interesting now...with bamni and anu finally in action...i know things have not gone as expected...but yeh shayad issi tarah hi hona tha...unhe puru ko waha se nikalna tha...aur yeh warning dene ke baad nikalna tha ki woh bharat par attack karne ki na soache...instead of high jump...agar woh usse bhaag kar us stage par chadtha hua dikha dete toh najane kya jaata. Par samjho...ki shayad yeh log dikhayenge alex ko jeeta hua last mein aur isiliye aaj puru ko khada kiya talwar lekar...to show when he got a chance...he dint killed...and alex yaad rakhega...aage future mein aur isiliye nahi marega purushottam ko...i have read articles which said ki roxanne ki rakhi ke baad...porus jaan baksh deta hain alex ki ek baar...bas yeh samajh lo...yeh wahi tha...i know bahut negatives ho rahe show mein...like people are not liking the long dialougues...but try and understand...an historic like this is also meant to tell what india is...how indian people are and ya in a veryyy enhancedd way because its all about porus...about india. When a movie was made on alex...it concentrated on alex more...a show from indian persexpective willl boost about india and porus much more than alexander. They will not show alexander as a parallal lead because from an indian perspective...alexxx was an attacker...woh hamare desh ka dushman tha...he attacked our nation. Try and understand in that prospective...movies on alex never highlight what porus was and its vice versa here. A show on porus wont highlight good qualities of alex...its from indian perspective. They will highlight india and porus more.


Originally posted by: EtherealRati

Siddharth sir said that he will cover alex story parallaly too...he never said he will go in deep details...alex movies have porus entry only when he enters for war...but here they are covering alex story in a show named porus. Biasness toh naam se hi aa jaati hain...agar alex aur puru ko equal karke dikhana hota

...toh name could have been two legends...war of hydapes ...or something like that ...not porus. CV's did cleared in all interviews...that this show is gonna cover story from indian perspective...and from indian perspective...alex was an attacker...an attacker who couldnt take anything from our land and never reached his country after the war either. Indian perspective mei toh woh dushman hain...and thus they will not highlight all good in him but will make sure ki bure points saare cover kare...i will answer to whole post tomorrow in detail.

Edited by sashashyam - 7 years ago
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First of all d I will request u not leave d forum as I rejoined d forum by reading Ur post . I can understand u position , even I was on d same position , I left seeing d show mostly after d Puru became official prince coz story was unbearable 4 me coz of non stop drama of paurav rashtra & zero character development of poras. When Alexander started his journey I started watching it again .
Di if u see Alexander is still far better than poras in this serial, Alex don't feel shame in accepting I m bad like Puru. Puru & his cheerleader group is burning & destroying Alexander's army ships & weaponry at Alexander's back , what this act is called bravery , no it is cowardness, Puru's this act show how much he is scared of Alexander that he has destroy Alexander's ships. Little does Puru know how determined Alexander is , Puru can destroy ships but what will Puru do of land route, will Puru destroy land route 2. If I m right then Alexander came through land route 2 India. Puru has only supernatural powers & big bhasanbaji infact he is dillusional person who is unaware of reality of bharatiya kings. Alexander always fought on his own capabilities never went 2 enemies camp 2 know their secrets


Infact next week will be interesting I guess coz I m sure Alex will remember that it was barsine who stole his sword , so barsine ke bad days starts.

Olympias will try 2 divert Alexander's mind away from bharat , so as per me she might bring a woman's angle in d story

Infact Puru will start getting doses of reality check from next week when he will get 2 know what is going back in his own hometown . Puru will start seeing realities of Indian that they r not dhud ke dhule as he boasted before Alexander .

If u fed-up of this serial I can suggest u , u can watch dharti ka veer Yodha Prithvi Raj Chauhan it is available on hotstar , it's far better serial than poras even veer Shivaji is available on voot was also gud serial better than poras. Poras Mai to itna friction dekha diya ki friction Ko bhi sharam AA jaye.

Di finally apne Alexander ki vajah se Puru ka kaam adhura chut gaya, he could not rescue barsine & company

I m indian , I respect my motherland but I m not ignorant towards d mentality of Indian people.

I can only req u , but final decision is Ur .

Take care di .
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