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Posted: 7 years ago
I knw everyone is pissed off but i m sure yhm without IshRa will be nothing,i agree that Raman shudn't call Ishita banjh & sauteli but honestly it is a big shock for a person if ur beloved will kill ur son you will start hating that person,Raman was the only one who had faith even after her saying that she killed Ananya but still he didn't believe his words,as a father he is not wrong,a person whose 9 yrs daughter was just sent to juvenile home & who lost his son due to his beloved wife just think what trauma did the person go through.Now maybe u'll think that i m defending Raman but no it is abt a father who lost his son & Ishita she always create problems,pre leap that Chadda murder case,then Annanya case & now Adi,y does she always have to portray herself as jagat mata but 1 thing is very strange Chadda murder case she was given a death penalty,Annanya case if i m not she was given 14 yrs prisonment & now Adi she was not punished,y?There is definitely something missing,when she was innocent she was given imprisonment & now when she is actually guilty she is not punished.I m sry maybe u all will think i m being dillusional but i m sharing with u all what i feel,without Raman its impossible to get her punish bcuz if he wanted to get her punish he cud easily get her punished bcuz he had eye witness Shagun & Alia & what Raman said "tumhe toh phansi ho jaani chahiye,lekin tumne police se jhuth kaha ki self defence mein Adi ko goli maari"but if i m not wrong Chadda was murdered by Ishita in self defence but still she was given death penalty.I dont knw y but even after watching last nights episode i still think that Raman is the only one who saved Ishita & this is a fake separation.Maybe i m too dillusional ut this is what i feel bcuz it can't be Iyers Bhallas including Raman are against her,Raman is definitely Ishita & i will watch till yhm end.. Bcuz i love IshRa alot
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: mcvra


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i defended roshini becoz you said she was a culprit. i clearly said they were in a illegitimate relationship and when she realized her mistake she tried to move on and this shagun decided to arrange a sudden marriage which irked adi even more.since she was involved in a relationship doesn't mean she has no right to move on from that illegitimate relationship.i never said it was adi's fault alone.

also all these logic like ishitha should have shot in the leg are waste.first off all she is not a trained shooter to aim below the knee and shoot exactly to the point ,also her first shot was near his stomach area only even after that adi was not controlling and he again tried to throw acid on roshni's face.after that only she shot him for the second time on the chest.

you are finding these many logic becoz it is adi.if ishitha has done this for ruhi instead of roshni then no one would have questioned her nor suggested her to shoot below the knee.

also you telling ishitha should have told truth about ananya to raman i said even raman has done the same mistake that too for shagun .
so both the characters have done has done equal amount of mistakes.so dont blame one character alone for all their sufferings.

i was replying since you were bashing the character ishitha for all her past mistakes and not the cvs but for raman character alone you were balming the cvs.

be justified to both the characters na.

also be more empathetic when using you words.

secondly ishitha never said pihu intentionally pushed ananya which is totally wrong she never said that.








You have a serious problem in comprehending my comments!

Roshni is the culprit! She led on Adi, slept with a married man and suddenly she decides to move on so all is forgiven? What nonsense? You deliberately destroy someone's marriage and suddenly you get a guilty conscience and decide to cut it off and you should be forgiven? Just like that? Everyone thinks only Adi was behind her and she did not show interest, whereas she was equally involved! She dug her own grave and let others fall in it. No that does not mean I think that she should have acid thrown at her face. No. No human deserves that, but this whole situation happened because of her and she deserves her due blame!

N no I would not have been ok with it even if it had been Ruhi in Roshni's place and Raman in Ishita's place! That is your assumption, do not even try to put it on my head! Wrong is wrong, whoever does it. Here Adi had dropped the, the four women together could have handled him in some other way. It was not needed to pick up the gun or shoot him twice. After the first shot at least if he had been pushed down, he could have been saved instead of shooting twice! So yes Ishita was wrong in shooting TWICE!!

And are you seriously comparing Vandita death situation to Ananya's? Pihu is Raman's own daughter for God's sake. He had every right to know! You don't even realise that he could have died na? N yes here also it's CVS fault in making Ishita do that, but I never found the audience blaming her or abusing her for putting Raman's and pihu's life and sanity at risk. Leave that even after Raman got his memory back did she tell him how dangerous Simmi was? No! But obviously it's Ishita's character. Whatever she does is fine right?

Yes the CVS have butchered both Raman and Ishita. But it's Raman who gets butchered more and abused and bashed more and his grief is always taken for granted to glorify the character Ishima!! Everyone sees Ishita's grief and sympathises but forget Raman is in pain too and keeps bashing him coz the cvs make him a motormouth! That's a fact!

And I said that Ishita said in court that she(not Pihu) deliberately pushed Ananya coz she was angry with Simmi, which was utterly stupid!!!

And I was not bashing Ishita but calling her out on her habit of poking her nose in everybody's business and trying to solve everyone's problem even when they do not ask for it! She has a habit on interfering in things which are not her concern and then she lands herself in trouble which further breaks a lot if things! And this is also a fact!

Empathy is not reserved only for female leads and mother characters, it's a two way street! People forget that!
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: DivAnIshRa15

I knw everyone is pissed off but i m sure yhm without IshRa will be nothing,i agree that Raman shudn't call Ishita banjh & sauteli but honestly it is a big shock for a person if ur beloved will kill ur son you will start hating that person,Raman was the only one who had faith even after her saying that she killed Ananya but still he didn't believe his words,as a father he is not wrong,a person whose 9 yrs daughter was just sent to juvenile home & who lost his son due to his beloved wife just think what trauma did the person go through.Now maybe u'll think that i m defending Raman but no it is abt a father who lost his son & Ishita she always create problems,pre leap that Chadda murder case,then Annanya case & now Adi,y does she always have to portray herself as jagat mata but 1 thing is very strange Chadda murder case she was given a death penalty,Annanya case if i m not she was given 14 yrs prisonment & now Adi she was not punished,y?There is definitely something missing,when she was innocent she was given imprisonment & now when she is actually guilty she is not punished.I m sry maybe u all will think i m being dillusional but i m sharing with u all what i feel,without Raman its impossible to get her punish bcuz if he wanted to get her punish he cud easily get her punished bcuz he had eye witness Shagun & Alia & what Raman said "tumhe toh phansi ho jaani chahiye,lekin tumne police se jhuth kaha ki self defence mein Adi ko goli maari"but if i m not wrong Chadda was murdered by Ishita in self defence but still she was given death penalty.I dont knw y but even after watching last nights episode i still think that Raman is the only one who saved Ishita & this is a fake separation.Maybe i m too dillusional ut this is what i feel bcuz it can't be Iyers Bhallas including Raman are against her,Raman is definitely Ishita & i will watch till yhm end.. Bcuz i love IshRa alot



That is exactly what I said. But people are always one sided when it comes to seeing Ishra's pain. Everyone can see a mothers pain but not a fathers grief! That's what the cvs want anyway! Raman should be called jaanwar and Ishima should become jagatmata! God save me from martyrs!!
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Posted: 7 years ago

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You have a serious problem in comprehending my comments!

Roshni is the culprit! She led on Adi, slept with a married man and suddenly she decides to move on so all is forgiven? What nonsense? You deliberately destroy someone's marriage and suddenly you get a guilty conscience and decide to cut it off and you should be forgiven? Just like that? Everyone thinks only Adi was behind her and she did not show interest, whereas she was equally involved! She dug her own grave and let others fall in it. No that does not mean I think that she should have acid thrown at her face. No. No human deserves that, but this whole situation happened because of her and she deserves her due blame!

N no I would not have been ok with it even if it had been Ruhi in Roshni's place and Raman in Ishita's place! That is your assumption, do not even try to put it on my head! Wrong is wrong, whoever does it. Here Adi had dropped the, the four women together could have handled him in some other way. It was not needed to pick up the gun or shoot him twice. After the first shot at least if he had been pushed down, he could have been saved instead of shooting twice! So yes Ishita was wrong in shooting TWICE!!

And are you seriously comparing Vandita death situation to Ananya's? Pihu is Raman's own daughter for God's sake. He had every right to know! You don't even realise that he could have died na? N yes here also it's CVS fault in making Ishita do that, but I never found the audience blaming her or abusing her for putting Raman's and pihu's life and sanity at risk. Leave that even after Raman got his memory back did she tell him how dangerous Simmi was? No! But obviously it's Ishita's character. Whatever she does is fine right?

Yes the CVS have butchered both Raman and Ishita. But it's Raman who gets butchered more and abused and bashed more and his grief is always taken for granted to glorify the character Ishima!! Everyone sees Ishita's grief and sympathises but forget Raman is in pain too and keeps bashing him coz the cvs make him a motormouth! That's a fact!

And I said that Ishita said in court that she(not Pihu) deliberately pushed Ananya coz she was angry with Simmi, which was utterly stupid!!!

And I was not bashing Ishita but calling her out on her habit of poking her nose in everybody's business and trying to solve everyone's problem even when they do not ask for it! She has a habit on interfering in things which are not her concern and then she lands herself in trouble which further breaks a lot if things! And this is also a fact!

Empathy is not reserved only for female leads and mother characters, it's a two way street! People forget that!


so according to you what should roshni have done??? they have committed a mistake by being in illegitimate relationship and now they cant change it. the only way she found it is to move on .she explained to him that their relationship will not work and she has to move on.
also if one has to take the blame it should be shagun .she was the one who arranged the marriage urgently which irked adi even more.

also you are telling like four ladies will be able to control adi.but my point was even after the first shot he was ready to throw acid on roshni's face and before they run towards him he would have thrown the acid on her face.so only she shot the second time.
also acid attacks lead to death also and life is hell for acide attack victims.so she did watever she could do at that point.when u can tell they could have done something else im saying if they c

im not comapring vandita death situation to annaya. im saying both raman and ishitha behaved likewise in the situation. raman was taking the blame to protect shagun . even vanditha was ishithas own sister but he was hiding the truth from ishitha and was in jail to protect shagun .

and you saying nobody bashed ishitha is uttter nonsense.every one was bashing to the core during bhooth track, chadda murder track ,even during 1st leap many were bashing her leaving pihu and staying in australia for 7 years.even now many were bashing her for not telling ananya truth to raman.

if you are calling out ishita for her past mistakes then dont you thinks it is unfair.even raman's past mistakes lead them to many issues which i said in my 1st reply to you.so you are bringing the past issues and co relating with the current adi roshni relationship is nowhere justifiable.

in this adi roshni siituation i dont find anything wrong in ishitha.she was nowhere related in the issue and she did wat she did to save a girl from a criminal who is trying to harasss a girl and throw acid on her face.

ramans grieve is acceptable atleast if he had some empathy on his wife to ask her what happened.he was ready to kill nikhil when he was troubling ruhi but now his son is more important for him becoz he was trying to harm another girl.
i also understand your point that ramans character is butchered by cvs but you are bothered for raman 's character grieve and telling ppl to understand father's feelings. he would have much more matured way of handling this problem. you can't say that raman character is butchered by cvs and also tell to have empathy to his character.you can be on one side nly.

also i said be empathetic with you words in you replies.you words are little harsh.
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so according to you what should roshni have done??? they have committed a mistake by being in illegitimate relationship and now they cant change it. the only way she found it is to move on .she explained to him that their relationship will not work and she has to move on.
also if one has to take the blame it should be shagun .she was the one who arranged the marriage urgently which irked adi even more.

"You are still finding excuses for Roshni and justifying her. Roshni was an adult, her actions had consequences. The only difference is Ishita and Raman paid a a price for it. You sleep with a person one day who is married and thereby start a turbulent relationship, next day change your mind and decide to move on and get married when you know that the relationship started on such a turbulent note without giving a proper end to it and claim to the whole world that you are the victim and Adi was behind her? Wow!! Great way of moving on!! If any guy had done that we would all scream murder! there are no excuses in the real world. She and Adi are equally responsible, but in the end Adi became criminal and she victim. Thats indigestible. And coz of that subsequently Ishra's life was destroyed once more!"

also you are telling like four ladies will be able to control adi.but my point was even after the first shot he was ready to throw acid on roshni's face and before they run towards him he would have thrown the acid on her face.so only she shot the second time.
also acid attacks lead to death also and life is hell for acide attack victims.so she did watever she could do at that point.when u can tell they could have done something else im saying if they c

There is no point in debating this with you. Coz you are bent on supporting Ishita on murder. She had no right to take anyone's life. Roshni's life is important. But Adi's is not? She coudnty have called the police on the way? shot him elsewhere? Pushed him? Why pick up the gun in the first place against an already agitated person. Adi was completely wrong in trying to throw acid on Roshni. But, Ishita is no where less wrong in shooting him. She has no right to do that. No right to take someone's life! I will never agree on that, no matter what!

im not comapring vandita death situation to annaya. im saying both raman and ishitha behaved likewise in the situation. raman was taking the blame to protect shagun . even vanditha was ishithas own sister but he was hiding the truth from ishitha and was in jail to protect shagun .

This comparison is not justified in anyway. She hid a daughter's truth from a father. She had no right to do that. A father has equal right to know. And Raman hiding the truth put him in danger not Ishita. But her hiding the truth destroyed Pihu and Raman. You keep on ignoring my point again and again that Raman could have died. There is no coming back from that. And even after Raman's memory came back she did not learn, she did not tell Simmi's truth to Raman, otherwise he would have never trusted Simmi. The fact is that to glorify Ishita's sacrifices by the cvs everyone becomes a scapegoat!

and you saying nobody bashed ishitha is uttter nonsense.every one was bashing to the core during bhooth track, chadda murder track ,even during 1st leap many were bashing her leaving pihu and staying in australia for 7 years.even now many were bashing her for not telling ananya truth to raman.

Can you honestly say that they bash her the way they bash Raman? People don't say that Raman deserves better, they only say Ishita deserves better. WHereas, both of them are equal in making mistakes. in her quest for greatnesss and one woman army she hurts people multiple times and the joke is that she talks about trust, when she trusts nobody!

if you are calling out ishita for her past mistakes then dont you thinks it is unfair.even raman's past mistakes lead them to many issues which i said in my 1st reply to you.so you are bringing the past issues and co relating with the current adi roshni relationship is nowhere justifiable.

in this adi roshni siituation i dont find anything wrong in ishitha.she was nowhere related in the issue and she did wat she did to save a girl from a criminal who is trying to harasss a girl and throw acid on her face.

Please understand I am not negating Ramans mistakes. But he is always bashed and abused for his mistakes, when Ishita always gets off lightly. And as for Roshni matter she knew that Adi was taking interest in her from London and it was creating an issue between Adi and Aliya and yet she gives a job to Roshni. How studpid id that? As for her saving Roshni from a criminal goes, yes that was the right thing to do, but not by murdering Adi. That is not justified!

ramans grieve is acceptable atleast if he had some empathy on his wife to ask her what happened.he was ready to kill nikhil when he was troubling ruhi but now his son is more important for him becoz he was trying to harm another girl.
i also understand your point that ramans character is butchered by cvs but you are bothered for raman 's character grieve and telling ppl to understand father's feelings. he would have much more matured way of handling this problem. you can't say that raman character is butchered by cvs and also tell to have empathy to his character.you can be on one side nly.

I saw your reply before you edited it. You said something like Raman should except that his son is a criminal so his grief doesnt make any difference. That proves my point of what i am saying from the start. Both Ishita and Raman's Character have been butchered many times. But only Raman bears the brunt of it from the audience most of the time. Raman is always thrown under the bus by making him speak utter crap and filth just to glorify Ishita and the audience fall for it everytime and keep bashing Raman. I am not on Raman's side or Ishita's side. I am only on Ishra's side. But fact is a fact Raman is always made to talk crap and destroyed to show how mahaan Ishita is and her sacrifices are. And here during the funeral what Raman said was the angst of a father losing his first born, doesn't mean he is ok with Roshni's life being destroyed. Cut the man some slack, he just brought his son to the funeral pyre, you expect him to speak rationally and logically? At that moment his son's life is more important to him than anyone in the world, doesnt mean he actually wants someone else to die for it! The fact is that he lost his son and daughter on the same day and still him showing his grief in terms of anger is not justified to anyone is laughable!


also i said be empathetic with you words in you replies.you words are little harsh.

I am sorry if you find my words harsh, but I am tired of the Raman bashing which keeps happening. Everyone forgets Ishita's mistakes everytime. But when it comes to raman they start from the begining of the show to bash him point by point. So i have no patience to sugarcoat things anymore.
Ishita was right in taking blame for Pihu, but wrong in saying she pushed Ananya deliberately and hiding things from Raman.
Ishita was right in finally telling Pihu's truth to Raman, but wrong in not exposing Prammi.
Ishita was right in trying to save Roshini, But she was wrong in taking the decision to kill Adi instead.

Lets end this debate here, coz as much as I love Ishra i will not agree that Ishita did the right thing by killing Adi ever. The same way i will not agree with Raman using such filthy words for Ishita ever! I wont blindly support either of them. the cvs want to glorify Ishima, they can. But stop butchering every character for that!
You hang on to what you feel is right, i will hang on to what i feel is right! I am ending it here!
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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: DivAnIshRa15

I knw everyone is pissed off but i m sure yhm without IshRa will be nothing,i agree that Raman shudn't call Ishita banjh & sauteli but honestly it is a big shock for a person if ur beloved will kill ur son you will start hating that person,Raman was the only one who had faith even after her saying that she killed Ananya but still he didn't believe his words,as a father he is not wrong,a person whose 9 yrs daughter was just sent to juvenile home & who lost his son due to his beloved wife just think what trauma did the person go through.Now maybe u'll think that i m defending Raman but no it is abt a father who lost his son & Ishita she always create problems,pre leap that Chadda murder case,then Annanya case & now Adi,y does she always have to portray herself as jagat mata but 1 thing is very strange Chadda murder case she was given a death penalty,Annanya case if i m not she was given 14 yrs prisonment & now Adi she was not punished,y?There is definitely something missing,when she was innocent she was given imprisonment & now when she is actually guilty she is not punished.I m sry maybe u all will think i m being dillusional but i m sharing with u all what i feel,without Raman its impossible to get her punish bcuz if he wanted to get her punish he cud easily get her punished bcuz he had eye witness Shagun & Alia & what Raman said "tumhe toh phansi ho jaani chahiye,lekin tumne police se jhuth kaha ki self defence mein Adi ko goli maari"but if i m not wrong Chadda was murdered by Ishita in self defence but still she was given death penalty.I dont knw y but even after watching last nights episode i still think that Raman is the only one who saved Ishita & this is a fake separation.Maybe i m too dillusional ut this is what i feel bcuz it can't be Iyers Bhallas including Raman are against her,Raman is definitely Ishita & i will watch till yhm end.. Bcuz i love IshRa alot


Thanks for being the only postive soul out there...first yesterday's episode and then Vyas's thread closing down...what a day for us 😭

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