Best Alexander the great

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Posted: 7 years ago
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There has been many movies and TV shows on Alexander the great throughout the world (with Oliver stones movie Alexander being the worst and stupid). I have seen few of them and I would say Rohit look as Alexander is among the best one👏..he has done justice to Alexander though producers have ruined the character. 😛 when we say Alexander we see an undefeated world conquering warrior...his fav black horse. His armor and long red cloth...blonde hair...Alexander was biggest superstar of his time and still is the most famous known emperor throughout the world...Rohit looks exactly like Alexander the great...👏

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Posted: 7 years ago
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Yes I agree!
Rohit is doing great as Alexander.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I agree completely with you. The choice of this boy is a remarkable casting coup, and it is one of the very few clever things the producers have done.

Alexander the Great was a superstar not only of his time but down the millennia. Neither of the other two military geniuses of the last 3 millennia, Julius Caesar and Napoleon, came anywhere close to Alexander in sheer charisma and lasting fame. I wanted to name my son after him, but had to compromise by settling on Sasha - the Russian dimunitive for Alexander- as his pet name.

To revert, Rohit has the presence which is vital for a successful Alexander. Now presence is either there or not there, it cannot be taught or acquired. His Alexander looks every inch a very young world conqueror: the insouciance of youth, the effortless dominance, the unshakeable confidence, the innate shrewdness, the subtle grasp of human psychology. Plus he is very handsome - which too Alexander was, judging from the statues and busts - and he has the sleek grace of a panther when he moves.

I have not yet seen a single scene where Rohit failed to convey what was intended. The very best sequence, which drew him into hitherto uncharted territory, was after the blow up with Philip in the open court, which leaves Alexander crushed and deeply distressed at his naivete in trusting such a man. His face, as he walks to his mother's rooms. was a study in conflicting emotions, and he pulled it off to perfection. Again, when he was caressing the hair of the comatose Philip, the tenderness in his face was remarkable.

I was not surprised, but dismayed to see that whereas Puru's departure scene was as prolonged as the bidaayee of a dulhan from her maika, 😆Alexander's very hard fought siege and victory at Halicarnassus did not merit even a voice over narration as to how it was achieved. There was the round pebble that Ada hands him with a mysterious comment, and then there was Alexander striding thru the corridors of the palace while the dead lined the walls and the stairs. Nothing in between. I have not yet watched the whole of the Wednesday episode, maybe there is some summary clarification. But the treatment was unacceptably skimpy.

All in all, the equality in the montage notwithstanding, it is still 80% or more Puru and 20% or less Alexander. And the determined campaign to paint Alexander as kroor aur nirmam is well and thriving. A great pity.

Shyamala Aunty

PS: Corpses do not bleed, for once someone is dead, the heart stops pumping the blood around. So a river cannot remain red with blood because of the corpses floating in it. But of course the director, who has such a cavalier attitude to history, can hardly be expected to bother about physiology!!😉


Originally posted by: luckySnow

There has been many movies and TV shows on Alexander the great throughout the world (with Oliver stones movie Alexander being the worst and stupid). I have seen few of them and I would say Rohit look as Alexander is among the best one👏..he has done justice to Alexander though producers have ruined the character. 😛 when we say Alexander we see an undefeated world conquering warrior...his fav black horse. His armor and long red cloth...blonde hair...Alexander was biggest superstar of his time and still is the most famous known emperor throughout the world...Rohit looks exactly like Alexander the great...👏

Edited by sashashyam - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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But at least they are trying to keep close to history as Alex is still shown as someone who is intelligent n his political acumen is good n Alex respect for women is still intact though it was Darius's wife n not his sister who he adopted as his mother. I still loved the Ada Alexander relationship as mom son maybe Alex n barsine will happen soon after puru goes back to India n there will be parallel weddings. Alexander maybe ruthless in this show but at least unlike other historical serials he is not a idiot or lustful character and I admire him as much as I did before his ruthless transformation. World conqueror are ruthless that is necessary they can't be saints. At least they haven't butchered him like the villains in other historical serials n made him completely contrary to history. Praise the Lord. Like padmanand in CN n sushim in cas n Akbar in mrp they are all completely contrary to history but at least Alexander inspite of being ruthless is not running around lusting around female lead n actually has a good goal n brains. Puru maybe mahaan but he too is not daydream about lachi n wasting his time he too has a goal n is trying to achieve it. Even barsine n lachi are not running after men n acting like royalty for a change with their duty more important than romance. Romance is just a side in this story n Alexander n puru are just focusing on their dreams and countries unlike other male leads Alexander for me is best parallel male lead in a long long time he is not a idiot villain thanks to the CVs for this.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: daphnejasmine

But at least they are trying to keep close to history as Alex is still shown as someone who is intelligent n his political acumen is good n Alex respect for women is still intact though it was Darius's wife n not his sister who he adopted as his mother. I still loved the Ada Alexander relationship as mom son maybe Alex n barsine will happen soon after puru goes back to India n there will be parallel weddings. Alexander maybe ruthless in this show but at least unlike other historical serials he is not a idiot or lustful character and I admire him as much as I did before his ruthless transformation. World conqueror are ruthless that is necessary they can't be saints. At least they haven't butchered him like the villains in other historical serials n made him completely contrary to history. Praise the Lord. Like padmanand in CN n sushim in cas n Akbar in mrp they are all completely contrary to history but at least Alexander inspite of being ruthless is not running around lusting around female lead n actually has a good goal n brains. Puru maybe mahaan but he too is not daydream about lachi n wasting his time he too has a goal n is trying to achieve it. Even barsine n lachi are not running after men n acting like royalty for a change with their duty more important than romance. Romance is just a side in this story n Alexander n puru are just focusing on their dreams and countries unlike other male leads Alexander for me is best parallel male lead in a long long time he is not a idiot villain thanks to the CVs for this.


He has three mothers olympia darius mother and ada ...also ada is not darius sister
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Yes, my dear Deepthi, but this is what I would call the minimalist approach, being thankful for small mercies. I would agree with you, but only up to a point.

Yes, they are trying to keep close to history wrt Alexander's life, but only trying, and at times not too hard! You might have seen my post above - most of you seem allergic to hitting the Like button, so I never know - about the skimpy treatment given to Alexander's very hard fought conquest of the great fortified city of Halicarnassus. They could at least have given some details in a voice over, but no, even that was not thought worthwhile. I wonder how much they will compress his gala tour of Egypt, the founding of Alexandria, and the prophecy by the Oracle of Siwa 332-331 BC), for they are already getting ready for the battle of Issus - which was on November 5, 333 BC - and very soon thereafter, we will find ourselves at Gaugamela, October 1, 331 BC!

Incidentally, Ada, the one time and then later Queen of Carnia, was not related to Darius at all. If you google the battle of Halicarnassus, or Ada herself, you will get a lot of interesting information. The mother of Darius, who loved Alexander so much that she stopped eating when she got the news of his death and died 4 days later, was Sisygambis. They have not shown her yet, but she was treated very well by Alexander after the battle of the Issus, when Darius abandoned her, his wife Stateira and his two daughters, one of whom was Barsine, and ran away. Sisygambis never forgave him for his cowardice, and said thereafter that she had only one son, Alexander. She even refused to receive the body of Darius that Alexander sent to her after the battle of Gaugemela.

Incidentally, I don't understand this plea to Puru from Barsine. Does she want him to fight for Darius against Alexander? No other explanation is possible. Is he going to do that? The one thing is that they cannot show these Four Musketeers defeating Alexander at Issus. At least I hope so!

To revert to your point, the difference between the antagonist here and in, say, Ashoka, is that Alexander the Great is not Sushim or Padmanand. He is one of the greatest figures of world history. If he had been reduced to an out and out villain, I would have quit the show long ago. Then I would not have to tolerate such large chunks of Puru, who bores me stiff with his endless repetitions of kaam adhura nahin chhodta, and his patriotic effusions about his mathrubhoomi. As for Lachi, who is a very pretty girl and quite a good performer, somehow her scenes with Puru simply do not interest me at all. There is absolutely no spark between them. And as for Hasti, all I want to do with him is to throw him, and Lachi, into a washing machine, to brighten up their Dasyu outfits!😆

I wonder how they are all behaving as though Takshashila plus Paurav Rashtra (which is the modern Punjab) and the indeterminate Dasyu Lok adds up to Akhanda Bharat! What about Magadh and so many other janapadhas, Kaushal desh and Kousumbi and so on, not to speak of the whole of South India? No wonder they never show us a map!😉

Shyamala Aunty

Originally posted by: daphnejasmine

But at least they are trying to keep close to history as Alex is still shown as someone who is intelligent n his political acumen is good n Alex respect for women is still intact though it was Darius's wife n not his sister who he adopted as his mother. I still loved the Ada Alexander relationship as mom son maybe Alex n barsine will happen soon after puru goes back to India n there will be parallel weddings. Alexander maybe ruthless in this show but at least unlike other historical serials he is not a idiot or lustful character and I admire him as much as I did before his ruthless transformation. World conqueror are ruthless that is necessary they can't be saints. At least they haven't butchered him like the villains in other historical serials n made him completely contrary to history. Praise the Lord. Like padmanand in CN n sushim in cas n Akbar in mrp they are all completely contrary to history but at least Alexander inspite of being ruthless is not running around lusting around female lead n actually has a good goal n brains. Puru maybe mahaan but he too is not daydream about lachi n wasting his time he too has a goal n is trying to achieve it. Even barsine n lachi are not running after men n acting like royalty for a change with their duty more important than romance. Romance is just a side in this story n Alexander n puru are just focusing on their dreams and countries unlike other male leads Alexander for me is best parallel male lead in a long long time he is not a idiot villain thanks to the CVs for this.

Edited by sashashyam - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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I know aunty I am thankful for small mercies after cn n cas I am like that sorry about like button the reason is I didn't know there was a like button till you said I am new to the forum. PS I love all your posts. But nothing they do can ever destroy Alexander for me I like parallel leads with brains n I prefer them over idiotic losers like other villains who have nothing to do than go after the female leads. Don't worry fantastic four won't defeat Alexander because even if they fight to help barsine puru won't get a chance to give a speech so they won't win. even in battle of jhelum they won't win because remember Oracle's predictions that no one will defeat Alexander in the battlefield he will be defeated outside it because he will be impressed by puru bravery n offer his friendship the battle of jhelum was inconclusive according to history it will be the same in the serial. Otherwise the Oracles would not have said that he will remain undefeated in battlefield.
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Posted: 7 years ago
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^^ Shymala Aunty I agree with your both posts.
Even I have read Alex and Darius's mum were close with no reference of Darius's sister.

And the battles ofcourse! I skip all Puru scenes which bore the hell out of me to watch only Akexander ones but was greatly disappointed to see Alex getting mysterious ring n next moment he was victorious...W*F!!🤬 Instead of stupid repeated romance..Shivdutt big eyes ...And vishkanya crap they could show us what we want...Some real battle scenes.





But my main query is..I have read somewhere Porus was elder and his son also participated in Battle of Hydaspes..So are they planning to Show PURU and his paltan Defeating Alexander In Issus only as Mahan Dasyu/Yuvraj Puru kuch adhura nhi chodta..

And Also Alexander appointed Porus as his Satrap...But here looking how egoistic he is will he take the offer?



They have butchered the character Porus so much...That i have lost complete interest in him...The only saving grace of show for meis Rohit...The best Alexander I have seen so far. I 'd quit the show long ago if it was not him.

ps.I can keep up my rants...I m really frustrated...But my fingers hurt...Ouch!😆


PPS I like all ur posts Shymala Aunty and didnt forget to click the like button this time 😳
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: Radiant_Eyes_

^^ Shymala Aunty I agree with your both posts.

Even I have read Alex and Darius's mum were close with no reference of Darius's sister.

And the battles ofcourse! I skip all Puru scenes which bore the hell out of me to watch only Akexander ones but was greatly disappointed to see Alex getting mysterious ring n next moment he was victorious...W*F!!🤬 Instead of stupid repeated romance..Shivdutt big eyes ...And vishkanya crap they could show us what we want...Some real battle scenes.





But my main query is..I have read somewhere Porus was elder and his son also participated in Battle of Hydaspes..So are they planning to Show PURU and his paltan Defeating Alexander In Issus only as Mahan Dasyu/Yuvraj Puru kuch adhura nhi chodta..

And Also Alexander appointed Porus as his Satrap...But here looking how egoistic he is will he take the offer?



They have butchered the character Porus so much...That i have lost complete interest in him...The only saving grace of show for meis Rohit...The best Alexander I have seen so far. I 'd quit the show long ago if it was not him.

ps.I can keep up my rants...I m really frustrated...But my fingers hurt...Ouch!😆


PPS I like all ur posts Shymala Aunty and didnt forget to click the like button this time 😳


Bhai how Puru and his do takke ke avengers defeat Alexander...no won't happen...🤢 yes Real Porus was above fifty when he faced Alexander..his both sons died in the battle...
Edited by luckySnow - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: luckySnow


Bhai how Puru and his do takke ke avengers defeat Alexander...no won't happen...🤢 yes Real Porus was above fifty when he faced Alexander..his both sons died in the battle...


Here they make Puru and Alex of same age.
I don't think they will show such thing like Alex lose against Puru and his gang
Itna disaster toh kar chuke h bus ab aur na kare.

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