No nepotism in BW; I am an inspiration: Rishi Kapoor

iNTERVIEW
Rishi Kapoor, Actor

Rishi Kapoor on his legacy, his father and his son, and why acting is more enjoyable now.

When watching the trailer of your upcoming film 102 Not Out, noting the changing expressions, mood swings and subtle inflections in the voice, one realises that playing a 75-year-old character couldn't have been easy.

It was a challenge but that makes it exciting for an actor. Umesh (director Umesh Shukla) and I took the character forward from Saumya Joshi's original play, giving him creased shirts two sizes large and shoulders stooped from the tension he's lugging around. Babulal Vakharia is khadoos, depressed and in denial. His 102-year-old father who aspires to be the world's oldest man, wants to send him away to an old age home because he's the most depressed man around. Herein lies the conflict and the story of the film.
What made the journey more interesting was Preetisheel Singh's make-up. While playing a 90-year-old man in Kapoor & Sons I'd relied on prosthetics, this time it was just a wig, moustache and Amitji (Amitabh Bachchan) complementing me with his getup. It wasn't an easy walk-on part but no character actor has it easy because you're not running around trees, serenading the heroine.

When the character requires you to be low, does the emotion spill over into real life?

Babulal's not low, he's straitjacketed with a short circuit, picky about details, bound by timetables and finicky about rituals.

Are you that finicky in real life?

Not like Babulal, who's an eccentric, an extremist. I'm a normal person who takes life as it comes. In his case his life is disrupted if his routine is disturbed.

You're in an interesting phase in your career with films like 102 Not Out, Mulk and Rajma Chawal, taking elderly characters out of the stereotype and towards newer horizons...

It's a bloody high! I'm finally getting to play characters and not just be Rishi Kapoor. The Kapoor in Kapoor & Sons was not Rishi Kapoor. Ditto Santosh Duggal in Do Dooni Chaar, Romy Rolly in Luck By Chance, Rauf Lala in Agneepath and Iqbal Seth in D-Day. Even DCP Ravikant Phogat in Aurangzeb was an exciting role but it was a boring film and flopped so no one saw it.
I keep changing Rishi Kapoor's face all the time. I'm looking for challenges because all my life I only sang songs and romanced heroines. As I tell my wife, I'll even lose weight for a film if I must but not just for the heck of it.

Even in your prime you were seen as an actor who could deliver...

But except for Prem Rog, Tawaif and Damini the rest were just romantic roles in films shot in Ooty, Kashmir and Switzerland. Back then we didn't experiment. Even now the front benchers want maar dhaad such films will always run in India but we also have a new multiplex audience that is cinema literate and looking for different content. Films are no longer about song and dance, romance and the youth. For me content has always been king and I welcome this change.

What was your relationship with your father, Raj Kapoor, like?

He wasn't just my father but also my guru who taught me the ropes and introduced me twice, in Mera Naam Joker and Bobby. I was in awe of him which was born out of love, respect and admiration. He was Raj Kapoor; there was a halo around his head.
Till we completed school, we hardly saw him because he was busy making films. We didn't know he was a popular actor-director, but we knew he was an important man because everywhere we went, people would look at us. Even in this hotel, if we came for dinner without a reservation, we got a table easily because of him. We never misused that privilege but he remained an aweinspiring figure even when I was working with him.

Was he a jovial man?

No, he was a serious man whose work was his nirvana. But he was a kind father who went away too soon.

Has Rishi Kapoor changed with time?

Why would I change? Am I not doing good work? Have I not lasted in this industry for 45 years?

I meant as a person, not an actor...

I am a difficult man and not easy to get along with. I'm God-fearing and ritualistic. I pray twice a day, I'm bound by tradition and I am conservative. I'm also a big boozer.

And as a father?

I'm a loving father now but there was a time when my son and I didn't get along because I was so busy. I've never given my son the liberty of being on back-slapping terms with me. There was this invisible glass pane between us... It's like history repeating itself as it seems almost like my equation with my father. Now, I want Ranbir to get married, have some kids, so I can be a grandfather and make up for everything there.

Both of you are passionate about acting...

That's the family trademark. Ranbir is the fourth generation of Kapoor males in the industry. In 107 years of Indian cinema, our contribution has been 90-plus years. Films are our livelihood, that's the only thing I know how to do, but I also enjoy it and I am a hardworking actor.
The Kapoor surname or Bobby, which I got because my work was appreciated in Mera Naam Joker, didn't make me an overnight star. There are many Kapoors who didn't make it, we were chosen by the people. There is no nepotism in films.

Please elaborate...

Well, perhaps I didn't sleep on the road and didn't starve because I came from a well-todo family, but I also struggled as much as my contemporaries. Maybe not for a break but later to regain ground. Zanjeer released in the same year as Bobby and romance made way for action. I had to struggle to withstand such cyclones and that's no mean feat. Today, thanks to my autobiography, Khullam Khulla, I'm getting invited by big corporate houses and even Google to tell my inspirational story.

Like you, Ranbir isn't afraid to go against the hero' image...

(Smiling proudly) Yes, and the reactions to his new film have been phenomenal. All the calls and messages I've been getting since morning are about him. He always wanted to be an actor but told his mother that he wouldn't wear a twisted cap on his head and have 40 dancers suddenly appear behind him. He wanted a different career graph and took on serious films like Wake Up Sid and Rocket Singh. Some films, like Jagga Jasoos and Bombay Velvet, failed, but no actor has a 100 per cent track record. But as the saying goes, Form is temporary, class is permanent'.