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Christie2017

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Posted: 8 years ago

#21

Another imp thing I forgot to mention is. As Cute u said Madhu is the best mother. That's because a mother means supreme sacrifice, right from the moment a child is in her womb till eternity. But Sat wants to be a mother as well cling on to that power of LM Bahu (Shruthi had once mentioned it). This power is her nemesis. U can't have both. Gayatri, though wielding that power never was overbearing. That's why Vikram loves her and so does BD - in fact he and Anami listen to her though it might be for her own selfish needs. She sympathises with those who work in LM but listen to her. Kamini, gets her way, but she doesn't go against Pujan. Madhu also listens to MP and he vice versa. Sudha plays the victim card ( and as u said, we don't know the past; maybe Sudha was innocent and Gayatri did manipulate; societal pressures).

But Sat always wants that things go her way; yet she cares; but this over possessiveness is her bane; that's why Vats ran away and died. That's y Gayatri is tiffed off with her; BD doesn't like it (he is anyway a weak character who wants to be listened to and Sat hardly does that).

Till the time Sat lets go of her power and over bearingness, she will suffer.

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DocSNair

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Posted: 8 years ago

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Originally posted by: Janas2017
Sonali agreed Madhu is the best mother, but I don't we can find one like that in real life. We want to be like her, but r we like her? Close ur eyes and ask ur conscience; then maybe maxm 75-80%. Not completely like her. At the end of the day, we pine and do for our children. I am not saying everyone pampers it or bosses it around, but to a large extent, we do these things especially till their marriage maybe even after). I guess we do it because we don't we r selfish; rather we feel a child is vulnerable and we have to protect it from the vicissitudes of life. In fact, we treat it as a kind of possession.

I feel My mother is even more selfless than Madhu when it comes to me and my bro...may be that's why I can't accept Satrupa..the same with Anami, she has the best mother and she will not settle for anything less..

Now when I think about all this I feel Satrupa has more traits of a father figure in her than a mother..a father who spend the best days of his life working so that he can provide his child a better life, the one who loves his kids with whole heart but fails to express it..the one who want to control their life..the one who some of the time ends up choosing their ego and pride infront their children's happiness and put up a I don't care facade Infront of the whole world but sheds tears in the privacy of his room(it's what happens in most of the love marriage cases)...

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Christie2017

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Posted: 8 years ago

#23

Well said Cute. Yeah more a father type yes. Anyway Sat is like that - not feministic as us Indians would define feminism.

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leavesandwaves

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Posted: 8 years ago

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I think PP nurtures her children naturally like any old fashioned middleclass mother. In those times, kids did not have to compete for future careers and jobs. Life was a bit easy for the kids who are allowed to get less than 80 or 70. Those times kids were taught to respect and share things. Not to keep tips to themselves.

Now things have drastically changed.

Nowadays even middleclass mothers have become highly ambitious driving their kids to excel in everything except character development. We think character development will come without any effort by just taking care of other things. We pamper kids with expensive gifts like smartphones at an young age instead of giving more time and more emotional support when they fail our expectations.

The very rich have servants and ayas to take care of their children instead of parents and grandparents. They give what is called quality time. And the children mingle with kids from the same background. Here the children need not worry much about scores as they are groomed to take over to mind their extensive business empires or in the case of filmstars join the industry in some capacity.

Satrupa supports good education and scores like a modern middleclass mother pampering kids with some expensive gifts and lifestyle. I think she took care of Vatsalya herself without giving him away to ayas or care takers inspite of being very rich. She does not drink or smoke or socialise or cool in foreign countries the way most of the rich are prone to do. A conservative woman who lives in a joint family and also taking care of every detail and involving herself.

We cannot expect a PP from Satrupa. PP represents old world lifestye and values while Satrupa represents an ambitious middleclass mindset rather than super rich mindset though Satrupa is super rich.

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DocSNair

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Posted: 8 years ago

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@Janas,

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We indians have a culture that values worships mother's love above everything..for us mother's place is even above gods..(but for other cultures/religions god is placed above all..that's what I have learnt from my Christian friends)..we gives mother's the ultimate position/love/respect because of their unconditional selfless love,care and support of their kids and the extreme sacrifices they make.. when a mother is not like that,then I can't find any difference between the love of a mother/father/siblings/wifes..so no point in glorifying only mother's love...what I am trying to say is PP is the type of mother I described first..that's why Anami loves/respect PP to this extent..yes she loves murari Pathak too more than herself but the attachment she has for Madhu is on another level..only a mother like Madhu can have that level of love,respect and attachment from their kids... Satrupa can never demand/get that position..

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ChelseaAmolak

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Posted: 8 years ago

#26

Originally posted by: leavesandwaves
I think PP nurtures her children naturally like any old fashioned middleclass mother. In those times, kids did not have to compete for future careers and jobs. Life was a bit easy for the kids who are allowed to get less than 80 or 70. Those times kids were taught to respect and share things. Not to keep tips to themselves.
Now things have drastically changed.

Nowadays even middleclass mothers have become highly ambitious driving their kids to excel in everything except character development. We think character development will come without any effort by just taking care of other things. We pamper kids with expensive gifts like smartphones at an young age instead of giving more time and more emotional support when they fail our expectations.

The very rich have servants and ayas to take care of their children instead of parents and grandparents. They give what is called quality time. And the children mingle with kids from the same background. Here the children need not worry much about scores as they are groomed to take over to mind their extensive business empires or in the case of filmstars join the industry in some capacity.

Satrupa supports good education and scores like a modern middleclass mother pampering kids with some expensive gifts and lifestyle. I think she took care of Vatsalya herself without giving him away to ayas or care takers inspite of being very rich. She does not drink or smoke or socialise or cool in foreign countries the way most of the rich are prone to do. A conservative woman who lives in a joint family and also taking care of every detail and involving herself.

We cannot expect a PP from Satrupa. PP represents old world lifestye and values while Satrupa represents an ambitious middleclass mindset rather than super rich mindset though Satrupa is super rich.

Greatly Wriitten👏

Anami Can Not Say Satrupa Does not have Mother Heart,

Satrupa Was Gud Mother To Vatsalya Also.

Satrupa And PP Have Diffeent Ways.

Both Satrupa And Anami Are Wrong.🥱

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Mangothyme

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Posted: 8 years ago

#27

We don't see fictional anti-heroines as much as anti-heroes. But when we see them they are magnificent usually. Unapologetic. They take what fate has given them into their hands and create their own life. Scarlett O'Hara, Lisbeth Salander, Anna Karenina are all examples of it.

Satrupa was a anti-heroine. A young girl with dreams from a rich family who should have led a life of ease and privilege. She does have a life of privilege but not ease. She married a man with a romantic past and an illegitimate child who she had to see every day. She was probably not told of the existence of Narottam before the marriage and perhaps her own parents hid it. She lost twins, then had to live with assassination attempts of her only child she had because she had to give up her daughter. She did not hesitate to kill to keep her boy safe, she fasted prayed and yet she lost him.

This will fell even the strongest of people. Everyone has a breaking point. I am pretty sure she has PTSD. She has not processed this well. She went from wanting to commit suicide to bringing Anami. When Anami did not behave as expected Satrupa has started becoming from grey to black. From anti-heroine to villainess. Anti-heroines can be redeemed. But a villainess cannot. Hope she stops at a point where she still can be redeemed.

But as for hating Satrupa as a character, I love the anti-heroine. I just don't like the villainess she is becoming.

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Srividya

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Posted: 8 years ago

#28

The protective streak is foremost when ones survival is constantly threatened. Satrupa is not valued and respected as a wife , it could be her own way of operating or the divide and rule of Vikram to ensure only a legitamat child of satrupa and Baldev becomes the heir.

She is constantly reminded of her role and responsibilities and has had to suppress her inherent feelings.

Vatsalya was the one who understood and genuinely loved her but he too was snatched. we live in a patriarchal society that imposes restrictions on a woman from the time of birth. she faces hardships and threats.

Baldev as the man should have ensured atleast the safety of his children but satrupa was left to her means and Gurujis plan to ensure the safety of her children. she protected the heir the patriarchal society would accept yet could only to a certain extent.

A lot happened behind her back and she resorted to playing the same games to stay in the game.

We do not mind a sulking Baldev yet question an agressive go getter satrupa. We judge and condemn that she is less of a mother than PP.

We need to see what could have made this her character.

Children sense genuineness we say...yesterday the way Ladoo stood up for satrupa changed the perception of others at the dining table. She has towed a hard line thus far. Ladoo will evoke the feminie as you call it. if she can evoke such response and affection in Ladoo i am sure SP will see the goodness in her too . I am not sure of PP as she is not all sacrifice ...there is a possessive streak in her which needs tackling as well if Anami chooses LM.

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Christie2017

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Posted: 8 years ago

#29

Well said, Moon. I think the change would have started from y'day. By Laddoo's and sunsequently others' reactions towards her. BTW, have u all noticed. I think I felt, that deep down in her heart, Anami loves her most (more than even PP) and she didn't want her to go to jail. I feel that it is because of that pain and hurt she faced, that she is hurting Sat. It happens to us also. We hurt that person most whom we love most. I hope u all understand what I am meaning.

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