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Posted: 17 years ago
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@BC

Ayeshas vows of revenge were understandable and very correct during her earlier days..Today she is reduced to a patient needing help in the quest for hurting P and Milind who trusted her completley and genuinely valued and trusted her friendship.I feel for ayesha insecuties but has nothing to say today.

About M forgetting everything that happened..Its one of his good qualiites(I had problems with the fact the he didnt demand explanations for his tears during baby drama,true & Prachi forgave him too so cant keep on complaining about that😆).but that him and his consistent behaviour.Today too the song scenes were MICHI happy or he hurting Prachi .He is decent & brave enough to accept the all responsibilities .The lies that caused his heartbreak ,tears and and the fact the entire world came crashing down doesnt even come his mind .He is too strong to be called a wimp.

Edited by lvsgm - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: optimist

I still felt that he just ignored her because he had still not forgiven the Shahs. The thing must have bothered him because the first thing after the c-night he rushes to pick up the pillow and put it next to him to show she is his equal. Granted he did not reat her badly in public. That was because he was trying to rub it in to Ayesha that he cared for her (although in his subconciousness he really did). And what about the near rape. That was surely to avenge Alaap's treatment of Suki, although the logic was weird since Alaap never really raped her.

He ignored her indeed. He was cold to the rest of Shah because he hadn't forgiven the Shah indeed. But those don't equal revenging Shah for Sukreti. As you said yourself he tried to rub it on Ayesha that they were happily married, so obviously revenging Shah was missing from his main agenda.

The "scaring to rape" happened for several reasons: he thought Alaap and Prachi hijacked his business chance with errrm the foreign guy, he thought Prachi was trying to poison him, and he actually heard Alaap saying he would want to open Sukreti's book again. So apparently these were circumstantial. Just like what he did to Alaap, Mamaji and Naintara, his scaring act to Prachi was not his original agenda to avenge Shah. I don't think he actually had any original agenda to avenge Shah and I don't really know what he meant when he swore to revenge the Shahs and Shergills because he did no such thing, and that was one of the main points of this thread, SAS. Wait the duffer did say to Alaap that he would make Alaap's sister feel the insult he and his family has given to his sister (ewww). So if that's really his sick agenda, he has destroyed the plan the moment he decided to marry Prachi for his revenge for Ayesha. Nobody would actually marry the woman whose honor they want to taint.

Oh yeah, she asked the guys to keep the baby safe. But just imagine the risks she was willing to take. The baby was brought down by a pipe when the kidnappers were trying to escape. What if he had fallen? At that time for her it was mportant to cover her tracks not the safety of the child.

That was also my point. I didn't bring the proverb to defend Ayesha, I brought it up to press on the point that both Milind and Ayesha did wrong and terrible things due to their misunderstandings. What if someone accidentally got burn to death because of the arson? What if the fire somehow spread and kill hundreds of people? What about the people whose works and lives depend solely on that factory? I have never defended Milind for his crimes and I will never do it. It's fine for me if anyone gives the argument that Milind's wrong doings were no where near Ayesha's. But still the fact was, both did wrong. Milind didn't cross certain lines with his revenge act like Ayesha did. But then again Milind was not avenging for someone he loves, he was avenging for himself and that took the power away especially when he's actually avenging at the person he loves the most (no, not Neev but Prachi). He had lost the battle before it began, actually. And again he showed that his 'oath of revenge' stops abruptly (well at least this time he actually did something serious for his oath).

If she thinks Prachi is after her even though she does not have any concrete evidence save that she was at the marriage of her mom, all I can say is God save her. She is after Prachi not the other way around. Now it is no longer about her mother. It is about losing to Prachi which she cannot digest.

She cannot digest losing to Prachi because she thinks Prachi is her main enemy. Just because they don't show Amrita anymore it doesn't mean they were changing the story. Ayesha hates Prachi mainly because she thinks Prachi was responsible for insulting her mother. She has sworn to make her pay no matter what. Kayamath has made it very clear that concrete evidences or even simple common sense have nothing to do with Kayamath's characters' reasonings. The characters simply think whatever creative want them to think, let logic be kaput. It is very clear that Ayesha thought and still thinks Prachi is after her and that she's a nautanki, even in yesterday episode she thought to herself how Prachi still pretends to pray at the Mandir.

The fact was Milind didn't really avenge Shah or Shergill for the insult they did to Sukreti despite his revenge oath. I'm definitely not blaming him for that, I'm just making a statement. It's also notable how creative made Milind's supposed source of revenge (Sukreti)--only after he kinda ignored his revenge oath by actually marrying Prachi--practically showed him that she didn't need any revenge (she refused treating Naintara like her servant, she had become a business woman who had no real trouble dealing with Alaap), while Ayesha's source of revenge (Amrita) either said something heart wrenching thus made Ayesha wanted to avenge more or simply disappeared into oblivion never to put a stop in her in anyway.

Ayesha was being evil because she's truly going the distance for the sake of her oath of revenge. She's sacrificed everything and absolutely everything from her love to her conscience to her sanity, for the sake of her revenge oath. Not losing to Prachi is indeed an integral part of her revenge. How could you let yourself lose in anyway to the person you've sworn to defeat totally?

So I'm simply asking the creative to put an end to her long overdue misunderstanding thus her revenge oath. Not because she deserves it especially not after she hit my chubby baby thus making him fly freely(not), but simply because even after everything I still feel sorry for her for being so lost in her own destructive revenge oath. I'm pretty certain that in Kayamath twisted logic, Ayesha's doing everything bad for her revenge oath and the revenge oath came from the misunderstanding thus when the misunderstanding stops she would stop as well. Creative just don't want to make her stop, maybe ever but I hope they will soon, actually tonight itself. Alaap and Mamaji and Niharika can take her evil shoes fine😊.



Originally posted by: blackcurrant



As for Milind & Ayesha and their various vows of revenge, at least she follows through with her plans unlike the wimp who forgets everything as soon as his wife proves herself to be purer than the driven snow. You are right Magno, he does have SAS or ADD. A good dose of Ritalin is needed. 😆



A wimp... 😆. I could never call him a wimp dear... the only time I saw him wimpish was in the court when his lawyer barked at him hehehe. Oooh I didn't know Ritalin is the prescription for ADD.

@Anju: His forgetfulness is his good quality.... I see😆
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Magno, the fact that Milsi forgets his revenge is not because of his short attention span but because he is basically childlike. Maybe children also have a short attention span. That is why they cannot hold a grudge. But having one especially for unpleasant things is very good and in my opinion not a deficiency. Sorry to bring in religion here but Christ did say that unless you become like one of these children you cannot enter the kingdom of heaven. What he meant is for people to be as forgiving as little children.

Milsi has never forgotten the good that Prachi had done. It is another matter he gave it a different twist in the PIM track. He never forgot his ill-behaviour towards her. Forgiving and forgetting are two different things. Milsi is forgiving and that is why he forgets the need to take revenge but not the incidents that led to the revenge or the act of revenge itself.

Ayesha is more unforgiving. And I dont buy this whole aregument for the sake of her mother. Where is her concern for her? If they had not shown her visiting her in the asylum, in all probability she really has not visited her because she was busy planning her next move. If she did she would not have found time to make all her devious plans.

Her avenging her mother may have been her original agenda. If that is so should she not be after Alaap rather than Prachi? She seems to have let go of him after she married him off to Suyesha. As far as Prachi is concerned there seems to be no let up. She took her wealth, her boy friend, her house. Still she is not satisfied because her original agenda is long forgotten in her need to get back her 'lap dog' from Prachi. She is as selfish in that as Milsi appears to be in your view, seeking revenge only when his interests are hurt. Right now she is fighting Prachi tooth and nail for her 'lap dog'. Anybody clearing the original misunderstanding about how Prachi was not part of the insult swad is not going to help because her 'lap dog' is not coming back to her. Her war has changed colour Magno, so settling old issues is not going to solve anything. Atleast that is my understanding of the crack pot Ayesha.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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'lap dog' ? 😆 Ayesha has lost all track of things, originally it was about her mother's revenge, but now she has lost sight of the most important thing for whom she embarked on revenge campaign in the first place, her mother. Ayesha's actions cannot be excused no longer. I just hope at the end of Miland's accident, they cart Ayesha off to asylum, so give her poor mum company, as now she has all the time in the world to care for her mother as 'trophy boy' will have slipped out of her hands.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Actually for me the best thing people should do is never to swear revenge at all. It's a sin, plain and simple. I don't enjoy hearing people making such strong oath and you know it's forbidden (for us) to do so. But it's not our case, it's Kayamath's characters case. Milind already made the oath besides the other oaths he made. I'm just saying he's not living up to it, simply stating it as a fact not blaming him for it and definitely not asking him to return to it and do it.

Opti even if you don't buy the argument of Ayesha's mother, that really is the story line and the plot of Kayamath and not only an argument, so I shall not go further with this point. Btw Ayesha's mother was not sent to mental Asylum. She's still inside the Shah Mansion itself. So definitely it's creative and not Ayesha's fault that they are not showing her or Ayesha's care for her. Milind was not shown bother about Baba while Baba was in the sanatorium either, until Prachi walked away from home and Baba was said to be missing. But we knew he cared and that he didn't get Baba home only because being in the same house with Sukreti would upset Baba. And they bothered to explain this and showed Baba only when the story line requested.

No, it's not that she only avenging for Prachi. Ayesha did avenge for the whole Shah and of course also Alaap, she has seen all other victims of her revenge(Alaap, Premlatha, Dadi, Prachi's siblings) cry defeat. She had managed to break them one way or the other and she was quite satisfied with it. But not with Prachi. Creative took the care to show us and Ayesha that Prachi simply DIDN'T break. And Ayesha of course couldn't accept it, especially because Prachi was her main target because she actually trusted Prachi before so the pain was greater.

And our Prachi idiotically told Ayesha that Nah, she won't break because none of Ayesha's stunts would truly hurt her, because her strength lay on Neev, her LOVE. Yes she really did tell Ayesha this I don't know what she wanted to convey by saying that.

So then of course Ayesha decided to steal Neev. At first Prachi retaliated because indeed she didn't want to lose Neev. But then Neev himself needed Ayesha's money so she herself 'sacrificed' Neev to Ayesha. So again Ayesha couldn't get her complete victory over Prachi. She saw Prachi's misery for losing Neev but she couldn't really see the defeat because it's Prachi's own sacrifice, thus naturally Ayesha couldn't get to see the 'face of the defeated person' in Prachi. And before she managed to try better Milind had already married Prachi, throwing Ayesha off because Prachi got the man she herself actually loved.


Edited by Magno - 17 years ago

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