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Posted: 17 years ago
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Yes, Muneeza, Ayesha is cruel and calculative.She did not think twice before endangering an innocent life, all to further her own agenda. And I am sick of this thing about what she went through as a child. Many people have gone through far worse things and have turned out alright. She had a good friend and a faithful lover in Milsi. She threw him away without a thought to his feelings. Now she wants him at any cost, even to the extent of hurting him and his family.

Ayesha and Milsi are similar only in temperament. Both are short-tempered, emotionally impulsive and long for attention. Other than that they are just poles apart in character. While one is childlike, the other is a little devil (sorry I am so furious with that character I cannot tone down my anger). While one is willing to give a chance to someone who has wronged him, the other is vengeful to the core. While one is apologetic for his actions the minute he realises his mistake, the other refuses to acknowledge her mistakes even to herself let alone to someone else. While one gives highest priority to family, the other could'nt care less for family ties. And dont tell me it is because of her childhood. She has always had the support of Milsi's family and Milsi himself. Later on Prachi and PL did their best to integrate her with their family. But she is too stubborn to let anyone love her. So sorry, I cannot feel sorry for her. Wish she is packed off to the nearest mental asylum. Let me modify that, the farthest asylum. Cant let her escape from there and haunt Michi again.

By the way this whole thing of seeking revenge for her mother, I have not seen her even thinking about her mother in the six months I am watching the show. They dont show her visiting her at the asylum even once. All her time goes in plotting her next destructive move.

Edited by optimist - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Reading the title,I went what did he do now?? 😆 .

Milinds forgiving nature is not because of his SAS,its the way the wants to live and priotities in his life.He doesnt hold and cant hold grudges,takes up responsibility of anything and everything,and wants positive ,peaceful things to rule his life

There quality in him to put a matter behind him and move forward the moment he is proved wrong.He plain accepts that...

Ayesha is going manipulative,never accepts she is wrong,thinks about her own happiness only at this point of time and the ways she choses are mere low.She cruelly misused and threw away her 20 yrs of friendship .She could care less if Milind die in the process of hurting over Prachi.

Edited by lvsgm - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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@Bee3nazz: No prob dear😊

Originally posted by: optimist

Magno, he married Prachi not only to avenge Ayesha but also the Shahs. He wanted to treat her like a slave. He wanted Alaap to see how his sister was suffering just as he Milind suffered because of Suki. Have you forgotten how he treated Prachi in the beginning? He let her sleep on the floor. A mistress of the house once was made to sleep like a servant. That is quite humiliating is'nt it? In KYM timeline that treatment went on for more than six months. The stupid guy even went to the extent of threatening rape as a means of getting back at Alaap, though how both are equivalent god only knows. It is only when he saw Prachi's goodness did he let up.

And to compare Ayesha and Milsi is not fair. Ayesha is unforgiving. Milsi on the other hand is childlike and more forgiving. He even gave the ransom money despite thinking the kid is Prachi's. He even went to guard her from the kidnappers when she went to deliver the money. Got hit by the kidnappers also in the process.

And I would'nt buy the argument that Ayesha still believes that Prachi is out to get her. She has seen enough evidence of her goodness. She also knows that Prachi's love for Milind is real and is not an act to take him away from her. Yet she tried to convince herself that it was all an act. She has a closed mind. Sorry I cant feel anything but hatred for her.


Opti I don't think that sleeping on the floor was his attempt on making her feel like a servant. Not at all. I see it only as the consequence of the fact that he didn't want to share his bed, she could have slept on the couch or other bed etc but to make it more dramatic she slept on the floor. He didn't treat her low or anything in public until the sms issue and that was because he felt betrayed and definitely not because he wanted to avenge her for Sukreti. I just don't see any real attempt on him to avenge for Sukreti besides the ones mentioned by Mitun. Not that I want him to. He was just revenging on Ayesha and Ayesha alone and the unimportant ones he did to Alaap and Mamaji and Niantara were more like side kicks or time filler for him.

As to Milind being forgiving and even gave the ransom money, of course he was forgiving. Ayesha was bad. But didn't Ayesha also make sure that the baby was safe? That's why I like the Japanese proverb about 50 and 100 steps, it's a deep proverb me thinks.

As for Ayesha still believes Prachi is after her, I don't see that as an argument, on the contrary I regard that as a clear part of the storyline, no matter how dumb it actually is.

Originally posted by: blind horizon

Magno I find it rather upsetting to think that you'r pinning it all down on Milind I agree both Ayesha and Milind vowed revenge from both the Shahs and Shergills and Milind did exact revenge from both Alaap and Prachi. But the point is that there is a very wide difference between Milind and Ayesha. Milind is more humane and sensible than her true he has his moments of emotional stress and he becomes uncontrollably violent and stupid. But he repents his wrong actions, apologizes for his bad behaviour and redeems himself. The problem with Ayesha she never accepts her mistakes the biggest example when she came to know that Rhitvik was indeed Sukriti's child she told herself "Main jaanti huun sach wohi hai jo Prachi ney kaha hai.I know the truth is what Prachi has said." even after knowing the truth she chose to deny Prachi's innocence in this entire matter. Even though she had proof that the child was Sukriti's she never bothered to accept it to her ownself let alone clarify the truth to Milind fearing she may lose him to Prachi.Ayesha has posessed an insanely and criminally evil mind. Insanity runs in the family evident in Arita's case as for the criminal mind God knows where she inherited that from.But in Milind's case he is neither insane nor of a criminal bend he is possessive and jealous and runs a high temperature most of the time but apart from that he has a clean soul and heart a forgiving and forgetting one. I must say I adore Milind for this trait of his and this is the reason why he and Prachi mesh so well because deep down they both possess the same forgiving nature.Ayesha even if she comes to know of Prachi's innocence in her mother's humiliation case will never forgive Prachi as in her eyes she is the root cause of her troubles and will always remain that come what may. She holds her beliefs close to her heart and rarely changes them she'll die but not let go of Prachi as her sole cause of destruction in her eyes.


Muneeza as you can see from my post it's not that I blame Milind or anything, I just took a poke on him for this matter because I really don't want to open a thread only talking about how I feel sorry for Ayesha. Milind shall be in the center of my attention always. So please don't be upset dear.

Yet I still think Milind kinda forgot his oath of revenge towards Shah and Shergills. And I still think creative should stop the silly misunderstanding Ayesha has because I am indeed feeling sorry for her. It's not something I could just make disappear even when I know she had been bad.

And tonight will be the great showdown I believe. I sure hope creative will give me something good considering Ayesha and not something that will make me grit my teeth in anger.


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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: lvsgm

Reading the title,I went what did he do now?? 😆 .

Milinds forgiving nature is not because of his SAS,its the way the wants to live and priotities in his life.He doesnt hold and cant hold grudges,takes up responsibility of anything and everything,and wants positive ,peaceful things to rule his life

There quality in him to put a matter behind him and move forward the moment he is proved wrong.He plain accepts that...

Ayesha is going manipulative,never accepts she is wrong,thinks about her own happiness only at this point of time and the ways she choses are mere low.She cruelly misused and threw away her 20 yrs of friendship .She could care less if Milind die in the process of hurting over Prachi.


Keep it coming Anju, I like reading praises for my chubby baby.
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Well Magno I really at this point want her to fall down that cliff have amnesia and live a clean happy life with Neev that's wat I want but clearly not what Snakeman wants. 😆
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Posted: 17 years ago
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I didnt read the entire post, but I don't feel sorry for Ayesha on bit 😡 😡, as for short attention span, I think everyone suffers from that in Kayamath from time to time...and if a lil tiny weency scratch comes on Miland or Prachi, then hope Ayesha is sent straight to the looney bin 😡
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Posted: 17 years ago
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[quote]when you cowardly flee from a combat area, 50 steps or 100 steps doesn't make much a difference. [/quote]

Fine proverb, but let me add one more: When you selfishly try to use someone to further your ambitions, whether you use them partially or completely doesn't really matter!


This is in reference to you claiming that although she kidnapped the baby, she made sure that he was fine, which doesn't make her a complete devil! Sorry, makes no difference to me....She committed a SIN (as Milind put it rightly) by risking a baby's life, and I don't give a damn if the kidnappers left him unharmed. Wrapping a fake-doll-in-a-parcel to push Prachi over the edge was bloddy INHUMAN, and even a jerk like Alaap was shaken to the core! You think she would have cared if the baby was DEAD? I think not! She would have only accused Prachi for her viciousness once again! 😡

Back to your proverb, Milind is definitely not a COWARD, and believes in fighting from the front - be it when he took away the Shah mansion from Ayesha, or was forthright about his desire to use Prachi to avenge Ayesha when he first married her, or burnt Neev's business, or slapped the divorce papers in Prachi's face (though I was always against Milind for never trusting Prachi and causing bodily harm to her) - unlike Ayesha who is manipulative, cruel, and makes her moves from behind someone's back...SHE IS AN IRRITATING COWARD! 😡

Edited by krangara - 17 years ago
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Yeah I completely agree with you krangara, whatever sympathy and good feeling I've had for Ayesha is COMPLETELY out of the window after today's horrible epi!!! 😡
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Originally posted by: krangara

[quote]when you cowardly flee from a combat area, 50 steps or 100 steps doesn't make much a difference. [/quote]

Fine proverb, but let me add one more: When you selfishly try to use someone to further your ambitions, whether you use them partially or completely doesn't really matter!


This is in reference to you claiming that although she kidnapped the baby, she made sure that he was fine, which doesn't make her a complete devil! Sorry, makes no difference to me....She committed a SIN (as Milind put it rightly) by risking a baby's life, and I don't give a damn if the kidnappers left him unharmed. Wrapping a fake-doll-in-a-parcel to push Prachi over the edge was bloddy INHUMAN, and even a jerk like Alaap was shaken to the core! You think she would have cared if the baby was DEAD? I think not! She would have only accused Prachi for her viciousness once again! 😡

Back to your proverb, Milind is definitely not a COWARD, and believes in fighting from the front - be it when he took away the Shah mansion from Ayesha, or was forthright about his desire to use Prachi to avenge Ayesha when he first married her, or burnt Neev's business, or slapped the divorce papers in Prachi's face (though I was always against Milind for never trusting Prachi and causing bodily harm to her) - unlike Ayesha who is manipulative, cruel, and makes her moves from behind someone's back...SHE IS AN IRRITATING COWARD! 😡


Kit you misunderstood the proverb and me. What I quoted is not the meaning but the actual proverb itself, so in meaning it doesn't talk about being coward at all. And what you said about Ayesha is true, in fact the proverb can be used to her action as well.

- We say Milind did those terrible things but never hurt a child!
- Others would say Ayesha did kidnapping but she made sure the child would be safe!

That what the proverb means. Two bad doings are bad doings even when they differ in degree. I was definitely not trying to defend Ayesha by saying that "At least she made sure she kept the baby safe". Gaah, do you really think I regard her that high?
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Posted: 17 years ago
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Milind is a just symptom of the illness between those Shah sister. Inder is the cause.

As for Milind & Ayesha and their various vows of revenge, at least she follows through with her plans unlike the wimp who forgets everything as soon as his wife proves herself to be purer than the driven snow. You are right Magno, he does have SAS or ADD. A good dose of Ritalin is needed. 😆

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