Shubham's dialogues???

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janvi0513

@janvi0513

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Posted: 7 years ago

Shubham's behavior and dialogues really confuse me.

Like today he said, 'aap ne mujhe phek diya'.

Suvarna did not throw him on the road or leave him at some orphanage. She gave him to her brother, who she knew would take good care of him, will give him love. She gave him to a set of loving parents. I am not saying that Suvarna wasn't wrong but she definitely never just threw him away.

That day he said something about not being well educated.

I remember there was a part about Suvarna sending money to her home city in the name of an orphanage. So doesn't that mean she was even providing for him. Or did the creatives forget about this scene.

During his time as a staff Manish was the one who got angry and Suvarna kept on saving him. He hates Suvarna for giving him away, completely understandable, but all of a sudden his love for Manish, giving Manish his father's place just like that and what about the father who took care of him all these years.

I don't have a problem at all if the creatives want to show Shumbam's pain or anger regarding Suvarna, infact I myself want to see it, but am not able to get connected to his bhari bhadkam dialogues, it just looks like he is exaggerating his pain to guilt trip everyone, which gives the feel that he hadn't actually suffered but only want to show off and that feeling is breaking the sympathy I am feeling for Aryan.

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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: janvi0513
Shubham's behavior and dialogues really confuse me.

Like today he said, 'aap ne mujhe phek diya'.
Suvarna did not throw him on the road or leave him at some orphanage. She gave him to her brother, who she knew would take good care of him, will give him love. She gave him to a set of loving parents. I am not saying that Suvarna wasn't wrong but she definitely never just threw him away.

That day he said something about not being well educated.
I remember there was a part about Suvarna sending money to her home city in the name of an orphanage. So doesn't that mean she was even providing for him. Or did the creatives forget about this scene.

During his time as a staff Manish was the one who got angry and Suvarna kept on saving him. He hates Suvarna for giving him away, completely understandable, but all of a sudden his love for Manish, giving Manish his father's place just like that and what about the father who took care of him all these years.

I don't have a problem at all if the creatives want to show Shumbam's pain or anger regarding Suvarna, infact I myself want to see it, but am not able to get connected to his bhari bhadkam dialogues, it just looks like he is exaggerating his pain to guilt trip everyone, which gives the feel that he hadn't actually suffered but only want to show off and that feeling is breaking the sympathy I am feeling for Aryan.

I think that is exactly what he wants... At least that's the impression. Yes, he is angry at his mother but at the same time he wants the family to give him sympathy and treat him special... at least that's the impression i got.

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zooombie

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Posted: 7 years ago

Exactly that's why Janvi, can't completely sympathize with his character. Somewhere the chords don't connect.

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Charu

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Posted: 7 years ago

I feel he is behaving like this because everyone is paying attention to suvarna and glorifying her mistakes while his pain/what he went through , nobody cares for that ...Its not about leading a luxurious life , the kind of upbringing which kartik had, shubham had the right to it also ..Under the goenka surname , kartik was well groomed, educated whereas shubham grew up in a village leading a motherless life ..Fine , suvarnas brother may be very affectionate to him but it's natural to feel that he was denied his right for no apparent reason ..He was made a bali ka bakra for kartik kirti and manish which obviously didn't yield any significant result ..

Suvarna may be sending money on the pretext of orphanage but she could send that much ke nobody doubts her ...Her brother couldn't afford a car also ..There must be some reason that shubham was working as a servant with goenkas ..If he was educated and had all the resources. , He didn't have to right ? I didn't see him complaining about his life previously, he wanted to make it big ..But after knowing that he is a goenka, he will obviously react like that ..Also, suvarna may or may not protect him while he was a servant , and manish misbehaved with him, but he can see that manish was unaware of the truth and the only guilty party here is suvarna ..He will try n get close to manish and his family ..I don't see anything odd in that ..

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Lakshay

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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: janvi0513
Shubham's behavior and dialogues really confuse me.

Like today he said, 'aap ne mujhe phek diya'.
Suvarna did not throw him on the road or leave him at some orphanage. She gave him to her brother, who she knew would take good care of him, will give him love. She gave him to a set of loving parents. I am not saying that Suvarna wasn't wrong but she definitely never just threw him away.

That day he said something about not being well educated.
I remember there was a part about Suvarna sending money to her home city in the name of an orphanage. So doesn't that mean she was even providing for him. Or did the creatives forget about this scene.

During his time as a staff Manish was the one who got angry and Suvarna kept on saving him. He hates Suvarna for giving him away, completely understandable, but all of a sudden his love for Manish, giving Manish his father's place just like that and what about the father who took care of him all these years.

I don't have a problem at all if the creatives want to show Shumbam's pain or anger regarding Suvarna, infact I myself want to see it, but am not able to get connected to his bhari bhadkam dialogues, it just looks like he is exaggerating his pain to guilt trip everyone, which gives the feel that he hadn't actually suffered but only want to show off and that feeling is breaking the sympathy I am feeling for Aryan.

I think Shubham is behaving the exact way that he should😃

Coming to your points

I think when he said aap ne mujhe phek diya...It's no ever wring to say..when you're a son of a family like the Goenkas and you have been living in a village and working as a "naukar" a servant like seriously ?? A Son of Goenka family working as a naukar..somewhere so ek tarah se phek his diya..!..You said she gave him equivalent loving parents lol seriously ? We all know that the parents of our own blood our real parents the happiness and the care they can give no one else can give no matter how much they are attached...!!

Money is not important that much "maa ka pyaar" is important in life there's is nothing beyond a mothers love which Shubham didn't got and Karthik got all..!

I think he knew Manish was unaware of all this so that's why he is not angry on him and that's good😃

But I totally agree with your last point 😳 Suvarna is very much wrong here..she has done so wrong with Shubham..so he should show anger in a big way..he should react that he has suffered lot and lot of pains in his life😲

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janvi0513

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Posted: 7 years ago

Originally posted by: -Lakk-

I think Shubham is behaving the exact way that he should😃

Coming to your points

I think when he said aap ne mujhe phek diya...It's no ever wring to say..when you're a son of a family like the Goenkas and you have been living in a village and working as a "naukar" a servant like seriously ?? A Son of Goenka family working as a naukar..somewhere so ek tarah se phek his diya..!..You said she gave him equivalent loving parents lol seriously ? We all know that the parents of our own blood our real parents the happiness and the care they can give no one else can give no matter how much they are attached...!!

Money is not important that much "maa ka pyaar" is important in life there's is nothing beyond a mothers love which Shubham didn't got and Karthik got all..!

I think he knew Manish was unaware of all this so that's why he is not angry on him and that's good😃

But I totally agree with your last point 😳 Suvarna is very much wrong here..she has done so wrong with Shubham..so he should show anger in a big way..he should react that he has suffered lot and lot of pains in his life😲

Goenka son working as a naukar, that is what am trying to say. We were shown Suvarna sending money to her home town. But now Shubham calls himself uneducated. Have the creatives forgot that Suvarna used to send money or is it something else like Suvarna's brother isn't actually a good person or is Shubham is exaggerating. Chal Kya Raha Hai?

For now to me he seems to be more wanting of Goenkas name and luxuries, of course that isn't wrong, a person who has lived with less in his life.Suvarna did send him money but of course it wouldn't be enough to live a Goenka standard life, tthough I don't Consider What Suvarna Did As Right But Still I Would Not Term It As Phenk Dena

Karthik Got All Mother's Love? When?

I Would have Agree If You Said That Suvarna Gave Karthik All Her Love Because Yes She Did But Did Karthik Get It. No. Karthik Never Let That Love Touch Him. Shubham Did Get Parent's or Father's Love or father's Love for 19 years Even If They Weren't His Real Parent's But shubham Did have a normal family for 19 years But Did SuvarNish Ever Get Close To Karthik, No. I tthink that this is Why Karthik Said Suvarna Had Already Been Punished Enough, On The Day The Truth Was Out, Because If Suvarna Kept shumbham Away, Karthik Kept Suvarna Away. God has Already Punished Suvarna through Karthik.

Shubham knew Manish was unaware of all this so he is not angry on him, then why did he try to send Karthik to jail, he very well heard Suvarna saying she kept the truth hidden from everyone, he knew Karthik didn't know anything still tried to take revenge on Suvarna through Karthik. Let's assume Shubham wanted to take revenge on Karthik because he heard Suvarna say that she did it Karthik Manish relation, but then if he wanted to send Karthik to jail then, was angry with Karthik for being the reason his mother have him away then Manish is also equally the reason then why was he all sweet with Manish.

Let's Think That He Wasn't Angry As Manish AccepTed Him And Got Angry At Suvarna When The Truth Was Out, and is angry at kaira because they were with Suvarna, enough but Then What Was Karthik'S Fault When Shubham Crashed Into Karthik's Car When He Laid A Trap To Send Him To Jail, This Was All Before Kaira Got To Know The Truth And Kaira Took Suvarna's Side.

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