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Posted: 7 years ago
#11

Originally posted by: sairitu

I was dumbstruck and became extremely sad after reading written update of Friday episode .

I questioned myself what made me so sad by just watching a fictional show as I don't have any problems in personal front. Why was I got affected so much ????.Then I understood its our emotional connection with the characters ,somewhere we follow them in their good deeds and idealize them .We get emotional as we own the characters as we love their personality. What is soumya for us? She is innocent, soft spoken, forgiving ,kind hearted person

Who is Harman for us ? He is dashing, well mannered, Honest and humble person. we just adore HAYA for their qualities. CV's just cant kill the characteristics of a person for the sake of twists .i feel bad when cv's try to degrade a character for illogical twists .Cv's are on a killing spree. On the name of twist ,they are butchering the main leads of the show,It started with soumya,I really hope it doesn't end with Harman.Soumya's character lost its charm long back bec of her disgusting behavior on the name of sacrifice or astitiva fight.How could a woman degrade herself by calling as "Bazar girl so many times ? using such kind of words for herself in front of everyone just to leave the room is intolerable. No woman should get such kind of monologues or scenes whether it is positive or negative character. what kind of redemption scene they show to regain her own selfrespect and dignity? .if you don't respect yourself ,don't expect it from others.I don't have any problem with her anger ,MU ,her decision to go away from Harman? Problem comes only what path she chose ,her puppet behavior ,self destructive actions and her never ending useless sacrifices .Nobody can empathize with fools .She is nothing but a fool.

The idea of MU is good but the execution is so bad that we lost connection with the characters and started disliking the female lead for her extreme behavior .The dialogues of soumya on Friday episode is beyond anybody's tolerance ,there was no need for her to degrade herself so much to bring Harman close to his parents. when did ever Harman emotional disconnect or disrespect his parents? though he was angry with them ,he always maintained that dignity and respect for them. That slap is too regressive and disturbing .Cv's started dishing out any nonsense on the name of twist .They are hell bent in proving that Indian tv serials will never change ,they do all ridiculous things to twist the story irrespective of how potential the story is.I doubt this balwinder molesting soumya is also brought only for sanjay's movie promotions as it will not add anything to the ongoing story,rather it makes us more to hate soumya who protects balwinder from Harman. Instead of slapping him ,she came to his rescue .Amazing. what msg they want to send to the public with kind of scenes? How did even rubina accept to do this? This is like mocking women empowerment ..She can keep her fight with her husband a side and should have taught a lesson to balwinder ,this would have been the right msg to the public .CV's can stoop any low to glorify side characters .Day by day we are getting pathetic episodes .Negativity in the show is unbearable, Cv's never cared for viewers emotions as its only business for them but I hope that they atleast care for TRPs,which is coming down bec of this illogical and unrealistic OTT drama and track. Sometimes I get angry at myself ,why the hell I love HAYA so much ,that I am torturing myself in a hope that I will witness some positivity and sense in the show ..Despite of having such a talented actors and potential storyline,unique concept,great social msg ,CV's are able to show only cheapness,negativity and regressive scenes .these morons are bankrupt of creativity .We can give better ideas to run the show than them without spoiling the essence of story and butchering the leads .



Errmm in your reply u spoke more about past episodes which we already discussed and about the future molestation episode which is yet to come , so we cannot discuss that episode based on just segments unless we see the actual scenario ,. How do we know Saumya dint slap Ballu when he came to molest her ? I m sure she did slap him or pushed him or else he would hv succeeded in molesting her .. isn't it ? Mayb in front of Harman she saved Ballu or else Harman would hv landed up in jail murdering Ballu 😆 but that does not mean she dint slap him when he actually came to molest her .. so let the episode air , then we can discuss

My post was about Friday episode and not past or future 😆😳

Coming to why actors agree for such role , well they r actors and their job is to act or else why will Kamya play Preeto ? we never think of main villains and the actors portraying them because we r more attached to main leads 😉😆 .. but for them its all about acting for which they r paid .. for them its even a challenge to make viewers hate u .. thats their profession ..

Anyways my post was more about warning the CVs not to spoil Harman too now in their obsession to glorify Preeto's win like they did with Saumya ..
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Posted: 7 years ago
#12

Originally posted by: anitarani

Well said...Jyoti...frankly...I just cant relate to anything

what Saumya is doing...If she had to do something
what she feels right to go away from him...fine...but
not like this ...a puppet of Preeto...have nil sympathy
for her...something which I never felt even during the
disastrous trio track...dont know what more to say...
People expecting Harman to be a superman...no
matter what she does...he has to cover up for
her or act on her behalf...Don't agree...but basically
I didnt like the way CVs have handled this MU...



Anita since Harman is shown like shakti of the show .. so at any given point if they show the evil succeeded in fooling Harman , it does make his character look weak .. u can see in Mon epi itself .. Harman kept crying and HarPreet were celebrating the win .. it should hv been the opposite .. thats where CVs need to b careful .. its a fiction show afterall where we need to look at character keeping aside our emotions sometimes .. I know its difficult but thats how I do with every daily soap I watch 😆
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: MARYALI

od analysis
But there are many different views
About the Friday ring that appear stupid on both sides
But Harman is a victim of a dramatic drama of his family and his wife
Who see him suffer what is happening, but no one takes into account his feelings
And what does Hermann want for everyone?
And wife Sumia are planning what should happen in Herman's life
Like a game and not a man with feelings



True .. he is suffering the most because the ones he loved the most .. both his wife and mother r planning against him .. dunno what invisible happiness they want to give him .. right now he is only suffering from pain
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Posted: 7 years ago
#14

Originally posted by: Flora15

Thanks my dear gago for this amazing retake even if I 'm not sharing with you the same point view about HaYa I must say You have done a great retake👏 👏 👏Really friday episode was a torture for me; i watched it with difficulty and even cried watching HaYa in such situation. I have seen in tweeter fights about it and i have got more pains .I intented there to only talk less defending both HaYa and i was very careful to not enter in fights.Such method of dicussion watch them with pain bcz we can have differents POV and we discuss about with love and freindly by I watching other thing totally different .We can give an add to each other when discussion.We must settle an example that were different; have different cultures ,diffrent way of thinking and everyone have his angles to inderstand and interpret things but our difference isn't an oblstacle but reunited in a surrounding of love,respect and peace .Anyway I say again ;I respect every POV. I have no fear to express my thoughts bcz it's only mines and before writing I feel the responsibility and take everyone place ;i want be fair with what i writing.

Gago the tittle of the retake is hilarious my dear Harman reaction to saumya's tamasha reality /expectations. Here it 's amazing but I watched that only you took Harman side denfending him and i respect that.For me both haYa have right with what have passed in that big hurtful drama.Yes Saumya do that drama accepting the worstest plan of Preeto but Saumya do that only for Harman hurting him badly and same time herself by making him panicked in front of his devil family .Meanwhile Harman was obliged to take his family side after that bold speech of Saumya and her insult for his family.
I 'll divide my retake in four parts
1_ Maninder house tamasha everyone giving the credit to him.
2_the homeless kinars and signs of unhumanty.
3_Saumya and Harman post resolution of surbi problem
4_Saumya big drama to leave her husband room leaded by the mastermind Preeto.
I watched that it's essential first to keep this order because before that drama there is HaYa scene room in witch there is an important monologue and no one cared about ;it help to understand the drama ;so I was obliged to talk about others and give the biggest part defending my HaYa because i'm watching them as victims of their surrounding full of hatred and inhumanity .

1_ Maninder house tamasha everyone giving the credit to him:

Really this scene look like a joke Maninder dancing with hapinness for his ladly Surbhi bcz finally he can say she's Varun wife and said that he didn't care about Harman and Saumya .Bebe said it's because of you everything is ok 😡 Vaaah maninder Ji tum hero? it's firt time i hear that 😆😡Sorry to deceive you tum for me ZERO 😆😡 Surbhi cut his hapiness and deceived him giving the credit to her😡Mahan Surbhi said it's her who have done a drama and gone to meet Harman saying him everything and it's because of her all this happened 😡Relax Surbhi you have done a lot of work but open your ears and you too maninder ji: you're nothing without Harman smart idea ;both of you look ridiculous one dacing and the other praising herself🤢.Surbhi it's you and your dad the real pawns used by Harman smartly to make you out of his life definitely. True you have done tamasha going there;true you heared HarPreeto torturing Saumya and you decided returning to your maikka to make them ask panchayat help.It's true too your dad gone to HarPreeto house but your dad sorry for the word was like an insect bajoing in front of them. Your dad who is dacing ;Harak Singh shut his mouth rudely if it isn't Harman interference something bad may be happened to him.If isn't Harman HarPreeto will use you as they want abusing both of you on their behalf.Understand it clearly all the credit return to Harman smartness and his present intelligence.

2_the homeless kinars and signs of unhumanty.

No one watched or talked about the poor homeless kinars and their condition without a roof and more over they have a little child with them criying 😭Chameli return saying to saya that no one want heat them milk for the baby.Just then neighbours come shouting saying that they're disturbing them and they can't sleep hearing the baby crying😡Chameli get rage and said she's a child and she 's hungry she questioned them angrily if they haven't children in their houses😭but saya stopped her saying them that she's her mom and a mom never let her child hungry. Saya managed herself with kinars help and headed the milk for the child😭Really this scene touched my heart bcz watched in it the inhumanity.What is this child fault to be thrown from his parents to kinar community?What crime kinars done to be thrown in road ?These neighbors who are pleading to be disturbed from the crying child where passed their humanity when Chameli nicked their door to heat the milk ;don't they fell pity for the child as they have children too😭 😭Still remember that are unwanted and mahous for them and they even clean everything touched by kinars in their houses and i look ridiculous talking about humanity (I watched that in HS house after Saumya given to Saya Preeto ordered shannou to wash everything touched by her with Ganga water to purify them😡😭 and watched it in happySingh house they have cleaned everything after Saumya living😡😭)I'm questioning myself if kinars are virus; why calling them manhous and taking in same time their blessings😭won't talk more and pass to the two importants parts of the episode

3_Saumya and Harman post resolution of surbi problem:

Haman full of hope and happiness enter room wanting a reward from his gulabo.He said her there is no thank you?
Saumya answered what? and Harman sarcastically with naughtiness reminded her how she forced him marring surbhi and how she stood up outside in cold weather droping water on herself. He said passionately and with love no one can interfere between them and where ever she'll go he'll find her.
Saumya in sad voice and without looking in his eyes told him that she 'll never forget his big ehsaan whole her life😭💔Harman without with same and with more pasion said "ehsaan nahi pyar.. pyar Gulabo"
Saumya said she's not talking about herself but about Surbhi freedom and our poor Harman ji replied tik hai I want be paid for this ehsaan.Saumya replied decide how much you want and I'll pay you.Harman said it's not like like and want be payed differently 😭 It result all he wanted is a touch of her hand😭💔😭but his gulabo push herself away 😭💔Harman said her really I don't undertand you; you won't be with ,you won't payme and you won't me;decide what you want and tell me.If you notice when Saumya is talking with Harman is sad and isn't looking at him she' s holding herself for not falling weak and just when he's gone out she breaks down in teary eyes and with her teary voice full of pains said that monologue:i love you Harman ji more than myself but we're not each other destiny 😭💔😭She said I'm the looser 😭 💔😭Surbhi settled her life and all what is needed to do paying you the 20 lakhs😭💔Saumya painful monologue say everything that she loves Harman more than her life.Saumya living Harman is big looser because she'll lose he Harman ji who is her life but she have to leave him for his goodness . Saumya is detrminant leaving Harman . she 's loving him more than herself and that means she can go to any extreme to leave him ;Saumya is up to give even her life for Harman.
Feal bad for Harman a lot bcz he even can't have a simple hand touch from his gulabo😭and this is too match ; Harman even that he's doing his best to change her but he failed geting his gulabo who is rejecting him and understanding his love as a favour. Harman who entred the room optimistic to gain his gulabo love gone confused about her reaction and rejection.Even that his last sentence show how match Harman is patient with his wife .Just after Saumya leaving the diabolic Preeto comes without loosing time😡 congratulating Saumya for succeeding in not be tied and said her now it's time to leave the room😡As Saumya want leaving Harman and I'll explain more in the tamasha she answered Preeto say me what to do and I'll do 😭Saumya has not problem to bear any plan said by Preeto bcz she's doing it to her love.
4_Saumya big drama to leave her husband room leaded by the mastermind Preeto:

Harman returned his room finding his wife packing her stuff.He asked if they'll go somewhere but Saumya said no and she'll leave to guest room bcz she 's not his wife and she's gulam .Harman said her that she'll not go anywhere and she'll be with him in same room but Saumya answered him with rage that she's not his wife and what will be people thinking if a woman sleep with a man in same room .Harman eyes stabbed with shock hearing his gulabo saying him that ;His heart was freezed .Preeto enter the room bajoing SAUMYAAA! with her team! Really Can't name Preeto as chief of ochestra because it will be an insult for him .I wanna say the mastermind and leader.Preeto who prepared her drama learning every members of her team his role including the heroine of the drama Saumya.Really watching that drama cried a lot for both HaYa because both HaYa have right. Harman was obliged to take his family side.No one can blame Harman or say he's wrong .Harman knows his Saumya can't talk about such matter by her own and sure someone learn her that.But Harman can't take Saumya side as things are impossible Harman expressions showed his sadness and how he was deep hurted .Before Saumya said your son didn't want a woman but..and just then Preeto slapped her before ending her sentence😡 😡 😡Harman himself said why Preeto slapped Saumya but keep immobile In tweeter viewers said that they butchering Harman as it was with Saumya and they 're showing Harman brainwashed. Common I replied them and I repeat again that Harman is never a character to brainwash and talked about the precap as a proof.Viewers have right to blame Shakti team criticizing them . They're watch wrongs things can't matching with the story lines and a lot of illogical thing .Viewrers are angry becz they showed Harman saying to Saumya don't use his family in her plans and said her that he love her but he love his family too and they have a place in his heart.
All we know that Saumya never disrespected her family in law or said them something bad.She alawys gave them respect and Harman know that but if we see things wisely Harman know it's a drama but he's anware of details and need time to know the leader and his team.Some fans said didn't he felt something fishy; all his family is in his room Saumya didn't screamed when they're fighting.Harman knows that his family is all the time acting but watching Saumya drama Harman was panicked; the dramebaz Preeto planned everything perfectly and everyone of her team said something that make Harman choose his parents side.Harak do a spectuclar drama that Saumya insulted them and accused Harman by watching. He said him furiously and crying he's not only his blood and wariss but he 's their honor. He added that it's all because of him and if he is in his place he will sacrifice hundred kinars.How would they Harman react watching his dad no performance playing the being victim and all the family is insulted? ..Ravi added fuel to the fire and said you're only loving her and you don't love your parents who are insulted in front of you.How do you do Harman take Saumya side hearing all hers insults for his family ? Saumya even talked about Preeto upbringing😭 Harman never stopped loving his parents even loving Saumya; He fighted with them for her ;get angry on them but they're his parents and have a place in his hearts.They're bad or good they're his parents an no one can change this reality and Harman must take his family side even hurted for his wife .Let me now as I defended Harman giving him priority for not saying i'm taking Saumya side (it's usually fan accusation).Saumya even excuting Preeto hurful drama i say it that Saumya is doing that for her love .Saumya is hurting her husband badly for his goodness. She wants him living a happy life surrouded by his family.Saumya as she thoughts she didn't deserve Harman love.she's convinced that leaving him is essencial as his love is only favour and He deserves the bestest life.She wants him begin a new life without her.Saumya have no interest what will Harman think about her and she's accepting eveythimg who can make him hating her.It was very clear Saumya big pains,humiliation and sadness when she's doing this drama.She lost somewhere her breath bcz she's hurted a lot and took a deep breath.No one can accept doing that and bear all that humiliation to just leave her husband room and be hated from him She have done that because she isn't selfish like viewers are saying :her husband happiness is her everything and no matter what will be her situation.Saumya eyes talking me stories.All said that she's Preeto pupet but they're wrong for me bcz Saumya accepted doing that and want be out of Harman life.All will say me that she's looking Preeto when was acting ;it's normal watching her bcz Saumya is innocent and don't know acting so she has to follow her.I noticed a lot of pains and difficulties in her expressions and her big her pains melted with tears delivering her speech when she's doing that hurtful drama and she's looking Preeto😭Watching Preeto Saumya is geting more pains😭In same time the devil Preeto is showing her poisonous smile of victory😡Saumya is doing that for them too bcz Harman is their happiness. Saumya won't deprive Harman from his parents love but those sadistics parents are enjoying their pains and depriving their own son from his happiness. Saumya is a person who respects family relation and fear about it.Saumya who was deprived from family love wants her husband rejoice with it. Saumya is comparing Preeto motherhood to her mom's; as her mom fears for her even Preeto fears for Harman.Preeto When discovered Saumya junoon of love for Harman by buying herself in Bangkok is using it as a weapon on her behalf for her plans.
Preeto is a smart devil planner per excellence and all her family are her pawns even her husband 😡It's only Preeto good luck using Saumya junoon of love to separate HaYa.My HaYa are victim of their surrounding who are poisoning their love story.
Harak Singh family is a reflection about the society thoughts of this love story.
For all who are saying Harman is the essence of the show ;sorry even i'm Vivian fan and he's in my top star list i'll say no.Shakti is a team work based in HaYa journey.Can't glorify one side over the other giving the credit bcz it's unfair .Shakti is Harman & Saumya together;no Harman without Saumya and no Saumya without Harman. Both complete each other.Nowdays we're looking for parity between couples and HaYa are an example both are fighters and stubborn. Harman is fighting to keep her with him and she's fighting to push him out of her life.Both are powerful ;Harman power is clear for all but Saumya power is for bearing everything in Singh house and geting the power encaging her love and doing what it was needed to leave him.Both HaYa think about each other happiness and want execute it in name of love.HaYa are a unique couple and an iconic love story.No one can do what HaYa are doing for each other.HaYa situation can compare her with the electric circuit :Harman is the positive and Saumya the negative; both are essencial for making the circuit functional.HaYa love is like a magnetic has big power.HaYa will be separated but they're inside each other ;breathing each other love.Let HarPreeto and her team enjoy their fake victory .Bcz I'm not watching victory when after every plan Harman deceives them.HaYa love power will deceive them and their bad days are coming soon and they 'll pay their deeds.Really wanted analyze more about HaYa and that inhuman family but I think I said what is important for me and I trayed to be fair with everyone.



Loved your take Flora .. U should hv put it separately 👏👏 ..

Kinners going homeless is really a sorry state .. I too felt bad for the little kid 😭 ... I was wondering the connection between showing kinners going homeless and suffering in parallel to HaYa MU track .. After TC Article I could realise that its because Harman will help them rebuild their house in future , so right now they r building up that track for future 👍🏼 ; It seems yet another plan of Preeto will backfire as she made kinners homeless so that Saumya cannot fight back after leaving home but now it seems her own son Harman only will stand with them 😉😆

Maninder is as delusional as Preeto and Surbhi 😆 .. I dunno why he is so happy when Surbhi still dont care about her married life but is 24/7 thinking of HaYa only 😡 ..Mannu better ask her daughter to concentrate on her married life first

Agree about Harman taking his parents side as Saumya dint leave any option for him .. I personally wanted him to support neither side and guess it that its a drama by both parties as thats what I expect from my smart Harman but then yes he is a human too , so he too can fall weak at times expecially when it comes to his parents .. And seeing tears in his father's eyes he actually fell for the entire drama .. it was more of a son falling weak seeing his parents in tears though we know tears were fake too .. sighhh ...
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Posted: 7 years ago
#15

Originally posted by: Shonal8

After reading this long post my conclusion remains that Saumya is stupid. Because we have been through all that in the trio drama. Her self sacrifice tormented Harman and she slowly realised that Harnans happiness lies in being with her. Then they left the house. When they returned she told Shanno to let her live because Harman needed her. Why this U turn. What really happened I think is that the CVs wanted to create a MU track with Saumya fighting for her identity and in the process they tried to show her strong. But then they made it so extreme that it became unbalanced with people loving Harman and hating Saumya. So the stupid creatively barren unimaginative CVs introduced this self sacrifice under Preetos influence to tilt the balance of the viewers towards Saumya which makes absolutely no sense. This totally conflicts with strong Saumya fighting for her identity and instead made her a worm (hurting Harman and herself) and made viewers hate her even more. So if one or both Haya have a nervous breakdown now, for whose welfare is this stupid illogical self sacrifice drama for? If Harman drinks himself to death how is Saumya helping Harman through her self sacrifice. Can the stupid saumya even understand or realise the emotional and physical damage she is putting Harman through. He endangered his life in Bsngkok and now the drinking will affect him physically. The creatives need to show them having a heart to heart talk. But no they will carry on with their cruel imaginative process I am so disgusted with their creativity that I don't think their track is even worthy of doing a psycho analysis. They have not only made the characters negative but als made the viewers tweet negatively. Congratulations Rashmi Sharma.

The creatives need to borrow creative ideas from us or take this disgusting show off air. I am sure talented actors like Vivian and Rubina will find roles in better serials. I have not seen Vivians shows before. But this is Rubinas worst role that I have seen. I loved her as Radhika Kanha and RUbi Bhardwaj although the last one was a negative character. From clips it seems she was good with Jeanie and that is because those creatives knew how to present their characters, not make every single character negative and torment viewers in the name of entertainment and giving the wrong social message.



Shonal I understand where u r coming from 😆 but these days if we start counting stypidity and nonsense in TV Serials , then almost all shows hv to b pulled off air which is not possible 😆...hardly one or two shows r good mayb but those good shows too start showing crap after they r 5-6 months old .. and in inida we dont hv seasonal type soaps either .. so well ..

yes her self sacrifices is giving more pain to Harman and its not like Saumya is happy either .. she is equally suffering .. so yes I agree stupid is the right words which can b used for her ... she should hv realised after trio track itself that Preeto's decisions can never give any happiness to Harman or else his marriage with Surbhi would hv been successful today as that was Preeto's decision too .. so after that trio disaster and living separately with Harman in a small hut , she should hv learned her lesson and understood Harman's value .. but I guess that one birthday night rejection of Harman did all the damage over rest of his sacrifices ... in real life too this is how most relations break .. one small mistake and all over ..
Edited by jyoti06 - 7 years ago
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Posted: 7 years ago
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Originally posted by: jyoti06



Errmm in your reply u spoke more about past episodes which we already discussed and about the future molestation episode which is yet to come , so we cannot discuss that episode based on just segments unless we see the actual scenario ,. How do we know Saumya dint slap Ballu when he came to molest her ? I m sure she did slap him or pushed him or else he would hv succeeded in molesting her .. isn't it ? Mayb in front of Harman she saved Ballu or else Harman would hv landed up in jail murdering Ballu 😆 but that does not mean she dint slap him when he actually came to molest her .. so let the episode air , then we can discuss

My post was about Friday episode and not past or future 😆😳

Coming to why actors agree for such role , well they r actors and their job is to act or else why will Kamya play Preeto ? we never think of main villains and the actors portraying them because we r more attached to main leads 😉😆 .. but for them its all about acting for which they r paid .. for them its even a challenge to make viewers hate u .. thats their profession ..

Anyways my post was more about warning the CVs not to spoil Harman too now in their obsession to glorify Preeto's win like they did with Saumya ..


I knew that we gave analysis of Friday episode Jyothi but i gave my overall opinion about the current track and what i felt abt the main leads behavior and how much i am hating this disgusting ,puke worthy writing of CV.i just hate them for this.
Coming to the upcoming track.we both shared the same opinion of this whole balwinder molestation drama is introduced only for sanjay dutts movie promotions.

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